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83-79 if all goes well. It will not so 77-85. Back to 1975 again. Fuck this team.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:30 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:11 am 
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First 55 games:

Pirates: 12 games
Brewers: 9 games
Reds: 6 games
Braves: 6 games

Then individual series with the Nats, Dodgers, Padres, Cardinals, Mets, Tigers, Tribe.

If the Cubs don’t pile up wins against their own division within the first 2 months, Jed will be flipping as many players as he can, which I anticipate is what will happen. Why trade Darvish if you’re truly content with an 88-90 win season and another first round exit?

This season is merely about controlling costs, compiling assets, and not alienating the majority of the fan base. In that order.


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Cubs potential 3-6 starters. Arietta, T Williams, Mills, Alzolay. Last year's combined era...4.96.

Jed was on with B & R today. They actually played a montage of his cronies praising him pre interview. Jed was gushing about his acquisitions. Leila actually asked a semi hard question Jed danced around. Of course, no follow-up. Jed said 2020 stats are pretty much meaningless. Well, that sure works out nice for his agenda.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:32 am 
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vitoscotti wrote:
Cubs potential 3-6 starters. Arietta, T Williams, Mills, Alzolay. Last year's combined era...4.96.

Jed was on with B & R today. They actually played a montage of his cronies praising him pre interview. Jed was gushing about his acquisitions. Leila actually asked a semi hard question Jed danced around. Of course, no follow-up. Jed said 2020 stats are pretty much meaningless. Well, that sure works out nice for is agenda.

The goal of the season is not to compile wins at the major league level. Of course he can’t verbalize that explicitly but the organization’s actions clearly indicate that. As did Theo jumping ship, which he essentially acknowledged.


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Cubs potential 3-6 starters. Arietta, T Williams, Mills, Alzolay. Last year's combined era...4.96.

Jed was on with B & R today. They actually played a montage of his cronies praising him pre interview. Jed was gushing about his acquisitions. Leila actually asked a semi hard question Jed danced around. Of course, no follow-up. Jed said 2020 stats are pretty much meaningless. Well, that sure works out nice for is agenda.

The goal of the season is not to compile wins at the major league level.

That's like when Gomer explained the on/off switch on the vacuum cleaner to Andy. "When it's turned to ON she'll run on ya."


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vitoscotti wrote:
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Cubs potential 3-6 starters. Arietta, T Williams, Mills, Alzolay. Last year's combined era...4.96.

Jed was on with B & R today. They actually played a montage of his cronies praising him pre interview. Jed was gushing about his acquisitions. Leila actually asked a semi hard question Jed danced around. Of course, no follow-up. Jed said 2020 stats are pretty much meaningless. Well, that sure works out nice for is agenda.

The goal of the season is not to compile wins at the major league level.

That's like when Gomer explained the on/off switch on the vacuum cleaner to Andy. "When it's turned to ON she'll run on ya."

I think that’s actually the analogy Jed used when he was on Gammons podcast recently


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My first job out of college featured this oaf named Larry. He used to walk around the building doing Gomer Pyke impressions. “Golly Andy”.

I’d use the “R” word, but I don’t want KD to have to post his stock reply.

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Cubs will always be terrible.

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Glad to see Happ, one of the few semi-bright spots of 2020, beat the cheapskate Cubs in arbitration.

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I don't understand the optimism. I have no faith that this team does anything more than make it in as a wild card or lose in the first round. The problem is, the NL Central will be bad enough that the Cubs will think they still have a chance going into the trade deadline and will miss the opportunity to gut the team for future draft picks. They aren't better than the Braves, Dodgers or Padres.

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All I want to see out of this year is a new approach to hitting. not the same lame bullshit we've seen the last 3 years. These guys have proven they can't catch up to high heat/velocity. Sixto exposed them in last years wild card game.

But if guys like Rizzo are still around it may not happen as he's the one who was complaining about Chili Davis.

I don't mind if they suck as long as we see a new approach to hitting and some hope for the future.


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Don't overintellectualize it: the Cubs will bum slay their way to another division title in a down year for the Cards and three other team entirely disinterested in winning.


So you're saying that the Cubs are going to make the playoffs for the 6th time in the last 7 years?

Cool.


Were my words encrypted?

Yes, the Cubs will have underperformed for the second year in a row under the great Rossy if they do not make the playoffs

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So for 2021 how are the Cubs games going to be handled here? Will be having series threads like we have had or do the Sox thing where you just have one mega thread for 2021?


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But if guys like Rizzo are still around it may not happen as he's the one who was complaining about Chili Davis.

I don't mind if they suck as long as we see a new approach to hitting and some hope for the future.


he's got to start punching at, or even better, above, his weight.


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I don't understand the optimism. I have no faith that this team does anything more than make it in as a wild card or lose in the first round. The problem is, the NL Central will be bad enough that the Cubs will think they still have a chance going into the trade deadline and will miss the opportunity to gut the team for future draft picks. They aren't better than the Braves, Dodgers or Padres.

What optimism? That they might not be terrible?.


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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
I don't understand the optimism.

Hope springs eternal this time of the year

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good dolphin wrote:
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Don't overintellectualize it: the Cubs will bum slay their way to another division title in a down year for the Cards and three other team entirely disinterested in winning.


So you're saying that the Cubs are going to make the playoffs for the 6th time in the last 7 years?

Cool.


Were my words encrypted?

Yes, the Cubs will have underperformed for the second year in a row under the great Rossy if they do not make the playoffs



They won a division last year when few expected them to and did well. Played everyone pretty much even except the Indians who they went 4-0 against. Then when they stopped facing White Sox pitching they did not hit, like everyone expected and what they did through most of the last few weeks.

They cut 70 million in payroll. They are not trying to win. Nice try though.

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My first job out of college featured this oaf named Larry. He used to walk around the building doing Gomer Pyke impressions. “Golly Andy”.

I’d use the “R” word, but I don’t want KD to have to post his stock reply.


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They play 38 games against the Reds and Pirates and 38 against the Cardinals and Brewers. They need to go 25-13 and 21-17 respectively to have a chance to win the Central. .500 in the rest of their games would put them at 89 wins, and .500 in those games isn't crazy given Philly, Arizona, San Francisco, Colorado, and whatever AL bottom feeder they have this year.

It is unlikely, but not impossible. That said, they won't win a playoff series, so it is more likely that Jed will start dealing to the NL East and AL East in late June.

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How are the Cubs going to beat bad teams with their own 3rd to 6th starters having a combined 4.96 era last year? Kimbrel forced as the bad money stopper? They aren't superior to the bad teams.


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How are the Cubs going to beat bad teams with their own 3rd to 6th starters having a combined 4.96 era last year? Kimbrel forced as the bad money stopper? They aren't superior to the bad teams.

Have you seen a list of the Pirates' rotation? It's far worse than the Chris Volstad-era Cubs. There is no reason why the Cubs shouldn't go 8-1 at home against them this year, even if they throw Adzolay, Mills, and a random AAA pitcher in all three series.

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I don't understand the optimism. I have no faith that this team does anything more than make it in as a wild card or lose in the first round. The problem is, the NL Central will be bad enough that the Cubs will think they still have a chance going into the trade deadline and will miss the opportunity to gut the team for future draft picks. They aren't better than the Braves, Dodgers or Padres.

What optimism? That they might not be terrible?.


That they will at least be good enough to compete and present false hope for the season.

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All I want to see out of this year is a new approach to hitting. not the same lame bullshit we've seen the last 3 years. These guys have proven they can't catch up to high heat/velocity. Sixto exposed them in last years wild card game.

But if guys like Rizzo are still around it may not happen as he's the one who was complaining about Chili Davis.

I don't mind if they suck as long as we see a new approach to hitting and some hope for the future.


I kind of doubt there will be a new approach. Davis and Maddon were trying to change how they hit and you see where it got both of them. Its all about uppercut swings to either strikeout or hit a home run. Just my opinion, but I think after 2016, most of the team took a selfish approach to hitting and it got exponentially worse once Zobrist left the team.

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Launch angle and exit velocity. Theo admitted on the way out the game slipped right past him.

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Launch angle and exit velocity. Theo admitted on the way out the game slipped right past him.


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cubs are not beating the reds and cards this year in h2h.

they struggled vs a shit pirates team last year when it counted. i think the same happens this year.

they probably split vs Milwaukee

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If the Cubs 5 era pitchers beat the Pirates 6 era pitchers... Whoopee!


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Launch angle and exit velocity. Theo admitted on the way out the game slipped right past him.

That’s not even remotely close to what he said. Good lord


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How are the Cubs going to beat bad teams with their own 3rd to 6th starters having a combined 4.96 era last year? Kimbrel forced as the bad money stopper? They aren't superior to the bad teams.

Have you seen a list of the Pirates' rotation? It's far worse than the Chris Volstad-era Cubs. There is no reason why the Cubs shouldn't go 8-1 at home against them this year, even if they throw Adzolay, Mills, and a random AAA pitcher in all three series.

Cubs would go probably 2-6 and your theory is wrong. They suck ass.


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