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The reason this series was created is because the guy has been accused of molesting his 7 year old adopted daughter. That's an allegation that all evidence shows to be false.

What evidence?

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The reason this series was created is because the guy has been accused of molesting his 7 year old adopted daughter. That's an allegation that all evidence shows to be false.

What evidence?


The fact that is was investigated at the time, and doctors thought the testimony seemed coached.

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My contention is that a very tiny percentage of people actually know what QAnon is. I don't really know anything about it and I'm 100% certain I know way more than most people. I'm pretty sure "Q" is a guy claiming to be a former CIA agent. I don't even know where I heard that and I don't know where to go to get Q updates or info. I'm guessing on 4chan.

I don't know about that. We all know what we consume. And what we all consume is filtered for us by the gate keepers.

I try to go out of my way to consume news and media from all across the political spectrum but I still miss things. Its hard to trust anything at this point.

As far as percentages, I could absolutely believe 1% of people are on the Q train. 3 million people is nothing but still too many


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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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The reason this series was created is because the guy has been accused of molesting his 7 year old adopted daughter. That's an allegation that all evidence shows to be false.

What evidence?


The fact that is was investigated at the time, and doctors thought the testimony seemed coached.



Even more than that, they concluded that no abuse had taken place. And their report states that rather definitively. And then there's 14 year old Moses who was there and states it absolutely could not have occurred.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
My contention is that a very tiny percentage of people actually know what QAnon is. I don't really know anything about it and I'm 100% certain I know way more than most people. I'm pretty sure "Q" is a guy claiming to be a former CIA agent. I don't even know where I heard that and I don't know where to go to get Q updates or info. I'm guessing on 4chan.

I don't know about that. We all know what we consume. And what we all consume is filtered for us by the gate keepers.

I try to go out of my way to consume news and media from all across the political spectrum but I still miss things. Its hard to trust anything at this point.

As far as percentages, I could absolutely believe 1% of people are on the Q train. 3 million people is nothing but still too many



I want to know more about Q. Where can I find out? And I'm not talking about corporate media telling me how bad and crazy it is. I want to read right from the source. Where do I find that?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
My contention is that a very tiny percentage of people actually know what QAnon is. I don't really know anything about it and I'm 100% certain I know way more than most people. I'm pretty sure "Q" is a guy claiming to be a former CIA agent. I don't even know where I heard that and I don't know where to go to get Q updates or info. I'm guessing on 4chan.

I don't know about that. We all know what we consume. And what we all consume is filtered for us by the gate keepers.

I try to go out of my way to consume news and media from all across the political spectrum but I still miss things. Its hard to trust anything at this point.

As far as percentages, I could absolutely believe 1% of people are on the Q train. 3 million people is nothing but still too many



I want to know more about Q. Where can I find out? And I'm not talking about corporate media telling me how bad and crazy it is. I want to read right from the source. Where do I find that?

A lot of it has been deleted and the identity of Q has always been a mystery. Some thought it was JFK Jr. Some thought Trump. There have been many theories

The most believable theory, IMO, is Ron Watkins

But if you search twitter and Facebook you'll find some into. Also tons of videos on YouTube.

Here is one that seemingly delves deep, although its Vice

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
My contention is that a very tiny percentage of people actually know what QAnon is. I don't really know anything about it and I'm 100% certain I know way more than most people. I'm pretty sure "Q" is a guy claiming to be a former CIA agent. I don't even know where I heard that and I don't know where to go to get Q updates or info. I'm guessing on 4chan.

I don't know about that. We all know what we consume. And what we all consume is filtered for us by the gate keepers.

I try to go out of my way to consume news and media from all across the political spectrum but I still miss things. Its hard to trust anything at this point.

As far as percentages, I could absolutely believe 1% of people are on the Q train. 3 million people is nothing but still too many



I want to know more about Q. Where can I find out? And I'm not talking about corporate media telling me how bad and crazy it is. I want to read right from the source. Where do I find that?

A lot of it has been deleted and the identity of Q has always been a mystery. Some thought it was JFK Jr. Some thought Trump. There have been many theories

The most believable theory, IMO, is Ron Watkins

But if you search twitter and Facebook you'll find some into. Also tons of videos on YouTube.


I'm assuming that means you can't give me a link. I know you're a highly intelligent and thoughtful guy. How can it be that so many people are under the spell of this pervasive philosophy, yet it's so difficult to find any source material. I just went to youtube. Every video is some corporate media upload explaining why I should be wary of this all powerful Q. He sort of seems like the Wizard of Oz, albeit without the castle and the Emerald City.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
My contention is that a very tiny percentage of people actually know what QAnon is. I don't really know anything about it and I'm 100% certain I know way more than most people. I'm pretty sure "Q" is a guy claiming to be a former CIA agent. I don't even know where I heard that and I don't know where to go to get Q updates or info. I'm guessing on 4chan.

I don't know about that. We all know what we consume. And what we all consume is filtered for us by the gate keepers.

I try to go out of my way to consume news and media from all across the political spectrum but I still miss things. Its hard to trust anything at this point.

As far as percentages, I could absolutely believe 1% of people are on the Q train. 3 million people is nothing but still too many



I want to know more about Q. Where can I find out? And I'm not talking about corporate media telling me how bad and crazy it is. I want to read right from the source. Where do I find that?

A lot of it has been deleted and the identity of Q has always been a mystery. Some thought it was JFK Jr. Some thought Trump. There have been many theories

The most believable theory, IMO, is Ron Watkins

But if you search twitter and Facebook you'll find some into. Also tons of videos on YouTube.


I'm assuming that means you can't give me a link. I know you're a highly intelligent and thoughtful guy. How can it be that so many people are under the spell of this pervasive philosophy, yet it's so difficult to find any source material. I just went to youtube. Every video is some corporate media upload explaining why I should be wary of this all powerful Q. He sort of seems like the Wizard of Oz, albeit without the castle and the Emerald City.

Do you not see the photos of people holding Q signs at rallies and wearing the shirts? Or the Q references in peoples Twitter info?

I'm not an expert or member of the Q community. I just know it exists and some people I know are into it.

Of course there is no official website. Its an insane conspiracy theory.

Here is a fb post by my gf from 6th grade. She posted this last March. A lot has been deleted since then. I've seen this type of awakening posts from about 10-15 people I have in fb. (Out of like 650)


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I'm assuming that means you can't give me a link. I know you're a highly intelligent and thoughtful guy. How can it be that so many people are under the spell of this pervasive philosophy, yet it's so difficult to find any source material. I just went to youtube. Every video is some corporate media upload explaining why I should be wary of this all powerful Q. He sort of seems like the Wizard of Oz, albeit without the castle and the Emerald City.
You could say the same thing about the conspiracies about the 2020 election being stolen.

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I understand Q exists. I just don't think it/he really has any cultural power or any significant influence in society. There are all kinds of nuts out there.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I understand Q exists. I just don't think it/he really has any cultural power or any significant influence in society. There are all kinds of nuts out there.

My contention has never been that Q is taking over. My issue is that Q type stuff is gaining traction more than ever with seemingly normal people turning into nuts.

You can go ahead and throw Trump obsessed people in that pile too..


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There seems to be more evidence of a conspiracy by the media to create a viable movement out of anonymous postings on 4-chan. You have all the buzz words needs to call skeptics heretics: Trump, racism, 4-Chan, conspiracy theorists. They are up to no good on that white supremacist message board!

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I'm assuming that means you can't give me a link. I know you're a highly intelligent and thoughtful guy. How can it be that so many people are under the spell of this pervasive philosophy, yet it's so difficult to find any source material. I just went to youtube. Every video is some corporate media upload explaining why I should be wary of this all powerful Q. He sort of seems like the Wizard of Oz, albeit without the castle and the Emerald City.
You could say the same thing about the conspiracies about the 2020 election being stolen.



That's true to a degree, but there is a lot of anecdotal evidence that has caused a massive number of Americans to lack faith in the election. Like the people counting votes placing cardboard over the windows so they can't be watched, just for one example. I would start with the fact that the way the election was held was unprecedented and quickly slapped together using a pandemic as a "good reason" to change a lot of established rules, but you have continually denied that occurred.

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Brick wrote:
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I'm assuming that means you can't give me a link. I know you're a highly intelligent and thoughtful guy. How can it be that so many people are under the spell of this pervasive philosophy, yet it's so difficult to find any source material. I just went to youtube. Every video is some corporate media upload explaining why I should be wary of this all powerful Q. He sort of seems like the Wizard of Oz, albeit without the castle and the Emerald City.
You could say the same thing about the conspiracies about the 2020 election being stolen.



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rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I understand Q exists. I just don't think it/he really has any cultural power or any significant influence in society. There are all kinds of nuts out there.

My contention has never been that Q is taking over. My issue is that Q type stuff is gaining traction more than ever with seemingly normal people turning into nuts.

You can go ahead and throw Trump obsessed people in that pile too..



How about people- there are some on this board- who think the previous president is a Russian agent? Do they go in the nut pile or is that just typical political bias?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I understand Q exists. I just don't think it/he really has any cultural power or any significant influence in society. There are all kinds of nuts out there.

My contention has never been that Q is taking over. My issue is that Q type stuff is gaining traction more than ever with seemingly normal people turning into nuts.

You can go ahead and throw Trump obsessed people in that pile too..



How about people- there are some on this board- who think the previous president is a Russian agent? Do they go in the nut pile or is that just typical political bias?



I apologize. Upon closer reading I think that's what you mean by "Trump obsessed".

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I understand Q exists. I just don't think it/he really has any cultural power or any significant influence in society. There are all kinds of nuts out there.

My contention has never been that Q is taking over. My issue is that Q type stuff is gaining traction more than ever with seemingly normal people turning into nuts.

You can go ahead and throw Trump obsessed people in that pile too..



How about people- there are some on this board- who think the previous president is a Russian agent? Do they go in the nut pile or is that just typical political bias?

Nut pile

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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I'm assuming that means you can't give me a link. I know you're a highly intelligent and thoughtful guy. How can it be that so many people are under the spell of this pervasive philosophy, yet it's so difficult to find any source material. I just went to youtube. Every video is some corporate media upload explaining why I should be wary of this all powerful Q. He sort of seems like the Wizard of Oz, albeit without the castle and the Emerald City.
You could say the same thing about the conspiracies about the 2020 election being stolen.



That's true to a degree, but there is a lot of anecdotal evidence that has caused a massive number of Americans to lack faith in the election. Like the people counting votes placing cardboard over the windows so they can't be watched, just for one example. I would start with the fact that the way the election was held was unprecedented and quickly slapped together using a pandemic as a "good reason" to change a lot of established rules, but you have continually denied that occurred.

That's how most conspiracies work though. Loose anecdotal evidence where you come up with your conspiracy and then fill in the blanks. You start with "Look at those smoke lines in the sky". You add in "The government in 1950 did a spray of a bacteria as a test over San Francisco". End it with "What aren't they telling us now?" and you've got something to go on.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I understand Q exists. I just don't think it/he really has any cultural power or any significant influence in society. There are all kinds of nuts out there.

My contention has never been that Q is taking over. My issue is that Q type stuff is gaining traction more than ever with seemingly normal people turning into nuts.

You can go ahead and throw Trump obsessed people in that pile too..



How about people- there are some on this board- who think the previous president is a Russian agent? Do they go in the nut pile or is that just typical political bias?

Russian agent?

Nut pile

I could believe Putin was happy with Trump and tried to manipulate him. That's as far as I can go.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I understand Q exists. I just don't think it/he really has any cultural power or any significant influence in society. There are all kinds of nuts out there.

My contention has never been that Q is taking over. My issue is that Q type stuff is gaining traction more than ever with seemingly normal people turning into nuts.

You can go ahead and throw Trump obsessed people in that pile too..



How about people- there are some on this board- who think the previous president is a Russian agent? Do they go in the nut pile or is that just typical political bias?

Nut pile

Jew pile?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I understand Q exists. I just don't think it/he really has any cultural power or any significant influence in society. There are all kinds of nuts out there.

My contention has never been that Q is taking over. My issue is that Q type stuff is gaining traction more than ever with seemingly normal people turning into nuts.

You can go ahead and throw Trump obsessed people in that pile too..



How about people- there are some on this board- who think the previous president is a Russian agent? Do they go in the nut pile or is that just typical political bias?

Nut pile

Jew pile?


Haven't played that since 7th grade.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I understand Q exists. I just don't think it/he really has any cultural power or any significant influence in society. There are all kinds of nuts out there.

My contention has never been that Q is taking over. My issue is that Q type stuff is gaining traction more than ever with seemingly normal people turning into nuts.

You can go ahead and throw Trump obsessed people in that pile too..



How about people- there are some on this board- who think the previous president is a Russian agent? Do they go in the nut pile or is that just typical political bias?

Nut pile

Jew pile?


Haven't played that since 7th grade.

:lol: :lol:

I just thought it was one of those auto-correct words to nut. Like M1ck.

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From what I know in conspiracy circles the original 'Q' was a real person or a bunch of persons from a national security agency.

But once they got outed and famous, those people left and some other group of conspiracy theorists took over and are controlling the masses. Some say CIA or intelligence agency took over and are doing a psy-ops on the followers.

But the original people are gone. similar to Project Serpo in the 90s.


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The reason this series was created is because the guy has been accused of molesting his 7 year old adopted daughter. That's an allegation that all evidence shows to be false.

What evidence?


The fact that is was investigated at the time, and doctors thought the testimony seemed coached.



Even more than that, they concluded that no abuse had taken place. And their report states that rather definitively. And then there's 14 year old Moses who was there and states it absolutely could not have occurred.
I don't have a dog in this race and Mia certainly has/had issues, but I'm not certain Woody isn't more than just a creepy guy.
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I agree he lacks judgment. I just don't believe he molested Dylan. Banging his partner's teenage daughter is bad enough. He doesn't think he's done anything wrong.

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I agree he lacks judgment. I just don't believe he molested Dylan. Banging his partner's teenage daughter is bad enough. He doesn't think he's done anything wrong.

Why defend him though? He fucked his girlfriend’s (maybe minor) adoptive teenage daughter at 50+ years old.

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I agree he lacks judgment. I just don't believe he molested Dylan. Banging his partner's teenage daughter is bad enough. He doesn't think he's done anything wrong.

Why defend him though? He fucked his girlfriend’s (maybe minor) adoptive teenage daughter at 50+ years old.


I don't think anyone here is defending him. I'm certainly not. You can say a lot of bad things about him. I just don't think he's a child molester.

And we've had these conversations on the board here with guys offering the viewpoint that they're straight men who aren't attracted to girls who are 17 years 364 days old but a day later they're grown women who can be considered attractive, a viewpoint which of course, I don't believe. It's one thing to have enough sense and discipline at age 40 not to chase teenage girls. It's quite another to claim you don't find them physically attractive.

So yeah, I think there's something wrong with him that he prefers the company of 17 year olds to that of fully formed adult women. And I think he's a shitty person for having sex with his partner's teenage daughter. Actually, I think he's a shittier person than his actual partner really seemed to. If I had been her I would never have had another conversation with the guy or ever let him near my home again. She seemed to consider continuing the relationship.

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