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i'm just glad she's back. to her credit. more than 24 hours for a twitter person is "a while"


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wtf, only one female.... and a white one at that.


Underrepresented. I also saw NBC News report that only one woman has won a Congressional Medal of Honor for valor in combat. We need more women on the front lines of war.

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wtf, only one female.... and a white one at that.


Underrepresented. I also saw NBC News report that only one woman has won a Congressional Medal of Honor for valor in combat. We need more women on the front lines of war.


i pulled a july. if you click the photo there are other females included in the full picture


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Here's how it works. When the media wants to make it sound like there is an epidemic of mass shootings, they change the definition so that it includes any incident with at least 4 wounded, even though the vast majority of these are gang shootings where shitty aim results in bystanders being hit and not some random mass shooting.

When the media wants to portray it as a white guy problem, they change the definition again and exclude those same gang shootings that they will then cite as evidence of the problem in the next article on the same page tomorrow.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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wtf, only one female.... and a white one at that.


Underrepresented. I also saw NBC News report that only one woman has won a Congressional Medal of Honor for valor in combat. We need more women on the front lines of war.

Fine by me. They ask for front line combat, give it to them. Let's see how it works out. Finally get some hard data from all woman squads.


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So the graph that SHE is using as proof shows 54% of the mass shootings are by whites...yet whites make up 60% of the population.

Thanks Julie!


Except what's the source? And how is she defining mass shooting? Shooting were 4 or more people are killed are 75 percent by black shooters. The New York Times did a study on this that was posted earlier. It's just a lie to say this is a white problem, and it's also insulting to act like when a white guy shots up a Wal-Mart it's worse than when 13 people are shot on a Monday in Chicago.


Its not surprising she doesnt understand that if there were a typical " 4 killed,11 wounded in Chicago shooting" and say, Clay Travis tweeted that out with something like " Im tired of waking up and seeing yet another mass shooting committed by a black man " ( it wouldnt even matter if it was true but ESPECIALLY later on if it was found out the shooter was white ) she and her woke fucking band of morons would hit the roof. Then if Travis came back with " Well its Chicago , stats say thats usually who does that "as his way of justification. Please.

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So the graph that SHE is using as proof shows 54% of the mass shootings are by whites...yet whites make up 60% of the population.

Thanks Julie!


Except what's the source? And how is she defining mass shooting? Shooting were 4 or more people are killed are 75 percent by black shooters. The New York Times did a study on this that was posted earlier. It's just a lie to say this is a white problem, and it's also insulting to act like when a white guy shots up a Wal-Mart it's worse than when 13 people are shot on a Monday in Chicago.


The chart she quotes excludes things like gang shootings.

Suffice it to say July was never not going to find a source that agreed with her preconceived notions about mass shootings. It doesn't matter to her that the source had to do scientifically questionable things like make a value-judgement about one motivation being worse than another (gang shooting involving multiple victims vs non-gang shooting involving multiple victims), then make assumptions about the motivations for shootings included in the data itself and disregard that data completely. Someone officiously stated that "mass shootings" are primarily the problem of one race over all others, and that's good enough for her.


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 Post subject: Re: Julie DiCaro!!!
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the book has fallen back to #32000 on amazon best seller list... that's only 5-10 copies a day on amazon. publisher probably reached out to her about the silence on twitter


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I would put gang violence and mass shootings in different categories. Gang violence needs to be seen through the lens of drug legalization, broken families, poor primary education, and limited opportunities in the impacted communities. Much of that violence is social and economic issues. Mass shootings probably lean more towards mental health problems.

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I would put gang violence and mass shootings in different categories.

Of course you would. I'll just cut to the punchline. That's dumb.

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the book has fallen back to #32000 on amazon best seller list... that's only 5-10 copies a day on amazon. publisher probably reached out to her about the silence on twitter

I guess Hannity didn't help her sales

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I would put gang violence and mass shootings in different categories. Gang violence needs to be seen through the lens of drug legalization, broken families, poor primary education, and limited opportunities in the impacted communities. Much of that violence is social and economic issues. Mass shootings probably lean more towards mental health problems.

Do you think guys that would throw a bunch of hot lead at a crowd of people to try to kill one or two rivals are otherwise well adjusted mentally?


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the book has fallen back to #32000 on amazon best seller list... that's only 5-10 copies a day on amazon. publisher probably reached out to her about the silence on twitter


Just curious, does anyone know what it peaked at? 31,999? :lol:

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Let me shout it for those in the back: We. Need. More. BIPOC. Mass. Shooters.

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So the graph that SHE is using as proof shows 54% of the mass shootings are by whites...yet whites make up 60% of the population.

Thanks Julie!


Except what's the source? And how is she defining mass shooting? Shooting were 4 or more people are killed are 75 percent by black shooters. The New York Times did a study on this that was posted earlier. It's just a lie to say this is a white problem, and it's also insulting to act like when a white guy shots up a Wal-Mart it's worse than when 13 people are shot on a Monday in Chicago.


Its not surprising she doesnt understand that if there were a typical " 4 killed,11 wounded in Chicago shooting" and say, Clay Travis tweeted that out with something like " Im tired of waking up and seeing yet another mass shooting committed by a black man " ( it wouldnt even matter if it was true but ESPECIALLY later on if it was found out the shooter was white ) she and her woke fucking band of morons would hit the roof. Then if Travis came back with " Well its Chicago , stats say thats usually who does that "as his way of justification. Please.


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the book has fallen back to #32000 on amazon best seller list... that's only 5-10 copies a day on amazon. publisher probably reached out to her about the silence on twitter


Just curious, does anyone know what it peaked at? 31,999? :lol:


No it was near top 1000 for a couple of days. Might even be deemed a success at this point


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billypootons wrote:
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the book has fallen back to #32000 on amazon best seller list... that's only 5-10 copies a day on amazon. publisher probably reached out to her about the silence on twitter


Just curious, does anyone know what it peaked at? 31,999? :lol:


No it was near top 1000 for a couple of days. Might even be deemed a success at this point

Probably over the break even point already.


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the book has fallen back to #32000 on amazon best seller list... that's only 5-10 copies a day on amazon. publisher probably reached out to her about the silence on twitter


Just curious, does anyone know what it peaked at? 31,999? :lol:


No it was near top 1000 for a couple of days. Might even be deemed a success at this point

Probably over the break even point already.


book #2 "White men, ugh... the worst". with the forward written by julie dicaro's husband


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I would put gang violence and mass shootings in different categories. Gang violence needs to be seen through the lens of drug legalization, broken families, poor primary education, and limited opportunities in the impacted communities. Much of that violence is social and economic issues. Mass shootings probably lean more towards mental health problems.

Do you think guys that would throw a bunch of hot lead at a crowd of people to try to kill one or two rivals are otherwise well adjusted mentally?


The reason they are shooting is different. It is like trying to address highway deaths from DUI’s vs people just speeding. The causes are different and so are the solutions.

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billypootons wrote:
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the book has fallen back to #32000 on amazon best seller list... that's only 5-10 copies a day on amazon. publisher probably reached out to her about the silence on twitter


Just curious, does anyone know what it peaked at? 31,999? :lol:


No it was near top 1000 for a couple of days. Might even be deemed a success at this point


Oh dear gawd. Her head will swell almost to the point of explosion...

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I would put gang violence and mass shootings in different categories. Gang violence needs to be seen through the lens of drug legalization, broken families, poor primary education, and limited opportunities in the impacted communities. Much of that violence is social and economic issues. Mass shootings probably lean more towards mental health problems.

Do you think guys that would throw a bunch of hot lead at a crowd of people to try to kill one or two rivals are otherwise well adjusted mentally?


The reason they are shooting is different. It is like trying to address highway deaths from DUI’s vs people just speeding. The causes are different and so are the solutions.

This isn't really an answer to my question.


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I would put gang violence and mass shootings in different categories. Gang violence needs to be seen through the lens of drug legalization, broken families, poor primary education, and limited opportunities in the impacted communities. Much of that violence is social and economic issues. Mass shootings probably lean more towards mental health problems.

Do you think guys that would throw a bunch of hot lead at a crowd of people to try to kill one or two rivals are otherwise well adjusted mentally?


The reason they are shooting is different. It is like trying to address highway deaths from DUI’s vs people just speeding. The causes are different and so are the solutions.

The motives are completely irrelevant in this discussion.

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Let me shout it for those in the back: We. Need. More. BIPOC. Mass. Shooters.

Someone in July's circle is going to unironically run with this take

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Darkside wrote:
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I would put gang violence and mass shootings in different categories. Gang violence needs to be seen through the lens of drug legalization, broken families, poor primary education, and limited opportunities in the impacted communities. Much of that violence is social and economic issues. Mass shootings probably lean more towards mental health problems.

Do you think guys that would throw a bunch of hot lead at a crowd of people to try to kill one or two rivals are otherwise well adjusted mentally?


The reason they are shooting is different. It is like trying to address highway deaths from DUI’s vs people just speeding. The causes are different and so are the solutions.

The motives are completely irrelevant in this discussion.

This. We cannot begin to address whatever "issues with mass shootings" this country has until we can accurately assess the scope of the problem. Arbitrarily defining "not mass shooting" and "mass shooting" along the lines of presumed motive and/or cause actively hinders our ability to assess the issue. What's more, these hindrances seem not-so-subtly aimed at preemptively sloughing off blame for the "issues" on an entire race of people to spare the feelings of or retribution from another group of people.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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denisdman wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
denisdman wrote:
I would put gang violence and mass shootings in different categories. Gang violence needs to be seen through the lens of drug legalization, broken families, poor primary education, and limited opportunities in the impacted communities. Much of that violence is social and economic issues. Mass shootings probably lean more towards mental health problems.

Do you think guys that would throw a bunch of hot lead at a crowd of people to try to kill one or two rivals are otherwise well adjusted mentally?


The reason they are shooting is different. It is like trying to address highway deaths from DUI’s vs people just speeding. The causes are different and so are the solutions.

The motives are completely irrelevant in this discussion.

This. We cannot begin to address whatever "issues with mass shootings" this country has until we can accurately assess the scope of the problem. Arbitrarily defining "not mass shooting" and "mass shooting" along the lines of presumed motive and/or cause actively hinders our ability to assess the issue. What's more, these hindrances seem not-so-subtly aimed at preemptively sloughing off blame for the "issues" on an entire race of people to spare the feelings of or retribution from another group of people.


We're talking about white people, right?

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Darkside wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
denisdman wrote:
I would put gang violence and mass shootings in different categories. Gang violence needs to be seen through the lens of drug legalization, broken families, poor primary education, and limited opportunities in the impacted communities. Much of that violence is social and economic issues. Mass shootings probably lean more towards mental health problems.

Do you think guys that would throw a bunch of hot lead at a crowd of people to try to kill one or two rivals are otherwise well adjusted mentally?


The reason they are shooting is different. It is like trying to address highway deaths from DUI’s vs people just speeding. The causes are different and so are the solutions.

The motives are completely irrelevant in this discussion.

This. We cannot begin to address whatever "issues with mass shootings" this country has until we can accurately assess the scope of the problem. Arbitrarily defining "not mass shooting" and "mass shooting" along the lines of presumed motive and/or cause actively hinders our ability to assess the issue. What's more, these hindrances seem not-so-subtly aimed at preemptively sloughing off blame for the "issues" on an entire race of people to spare the feelings of or retribution from another group of people.


We're talking about white people, right?

Huh?


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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denisdman wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
denisdman wrote:
I would put gang violence and mass shootings in different categories. Gang violence needs to be seen through the lens of drug legalization, broken families, poor primary education, and limited opportunities in the impacted communities. Much of that violence is social and economic issues. Mass shootings probably lean more towards mental health problems.

Do you think guys that would throw a bunch of hot lead at a crowd of people to try to kill one or two rivals are otherwise well adjusted mentally?


The reason they are shooting is different. It is like trying to address highway deaths from DUI’s vs people just speeding. The causes are different and so are the solutions.

The motives are completely irrelevant in this discussion.

This. We cannot begin to address whatever "issues with mass shootings" this country has until we can accurately assess the scope of the problem. Arbitrarily defining "not mass shooting" and "mass shooting" along the lines of presumed motive and/or cause actively hinders our ability to assess the issue. What's more, these hindrances seem not-so-subtly aimed at preemptively sloughing off blame for the "issues" on an entire race of people to spare the feelings of or retribution from another group of people.


Great you guys figure it out and let us know your solution(s).

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You know who doesn't care about motivations? The dead guy.


True, and I was not talking about motivations. I was about the underlying causes of those types of violence. But I guess we can fix gang violence and mental health driven mass shootings with the same solution. I am anxiously waiting the answer(s).

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