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I’m starting to wonder if Gonzaga is not, in fact, the greatest basketball team of the past 50 years.

Imagine if they actually played someone.

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That was one of the best college games I've ever seen


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So pissed I missed this.

Actually heard the endin' on WGN 720 radio.

It was kind of a mindfuck. It took the announcer a second to realize what happened and to get excited about it.

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I was actually wonderin' today that Peoria Matt never posts anymore.

And then this brings him out :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Tournament time!
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UCLA will win. they know how to win in close games. Has gonzaga even played a close game this year?

Maybe you aren't KS, but indeed 312. Every prediction he makes is wrong also.

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HawaiiYou wrote:
UCLA will win. they know how to win in close games. Has gonzaga even played a close game this year?

Maybe you aren't KS, but indeed 312. Every prediction he makes is wrong also.

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312 has a brain that works most times. HY not so much

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Hawg Ass wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
UCLA will win. they know how to win in close games. Has gonzaga even played a close game this year?

Maybe you aren't KS, but indeed 312. Every prediction he makes is wrong also.

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312 has a brain that works most times. HY not so much


There are email chains going around my work with HY-isms. They think the guy is posting from a mental institution during “free time”.

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Gonzaga wins on a last second hail merry from half court to win the game and advance to the final for the first time in history. Quite the match. Anyone else see this?

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That was one of the best college games I've ever seen

It was a really good game.

I think Baylor wins in the final.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I’m starting to wonder if Gonzaga is not, in fact, the greatest basketball team of the past 50 years.

Imagine if they actually played someone.

True. They matched up real well against the 11 seed.

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Gonzaga wins on a last second hail merry from half court to win the game and advance to the final for the first time in history. Quite the match. Anyone else see this?

I did. UCLA shot 58% and lost. That squadron played the match of lives.....and lost.

Will the Zags roll? Was this their gut check game? Probably, but I wouldn't put any amount of money on it.
Especially at -200.

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That was one of the best college games I've ever seen



best since the fabled Laettner shot game and might even be better than that one. This one was in the national semifinal with one of the teams being a massive underdog.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I’m starting to wonder if Gonzaga is not, in fact, the greatest basketball team of the past 50 years.

Vegas, Duke, the Hoyas would've given them beatings. Maybe even your Flying Illini.



different eras, can't compare older teams to teams in the one and done era. How good would those teams have been had they been in the one and done era? Larry Johnson never steps foot on UNLV campus nowadays. Ewing is gone after one season. Laettner, Hurley both gone before Grant Hill ever shows up.

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Gonzaga played Kansas, Auburn, West Virginia, Iowa, Virginia and were supposed to play Baylor but they had the Covid. Your conference schedule you can't control but not many schools played a more difficult non conference schedule.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I’m starting to wonder if Gonzaga is not, in fact, the greatest basketball team of the past 50 years.

Imagine if they actually played someone.



their conference schedule sucks balls, but they played a murderer's row pre-conference.

Kansas (#5 at the time)
Auburn
Iowa (#3 at the time)
West Virginia (#11 )
Virginia (#16)

Unfortunately their December 5 game vs #2 Baylor was Covid cancelled. But, looking back it was a good thing cause now both teams face each other with total blank slate.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I’m starting to wonder if Gonzaga is not, in fact, the greatest basketball team of the past 50 years.

Vegas, Duke, the Hoyas would've given them beatings. Maybe even your Flying Illini.



different eras, can't compare older teams to teams in the one and done era. How good would those teams have been had they been in the one and done era? Larry Johnson never steps foot on UNLV campus nowadays. Ewing is gone after one season. Laettner, Hurley both gone before Grant Hill ever shows up.

That's exactly why you can compare them. In the Big East's heyday, 2 or 3 teams from that conference alone would beat Gonzaga. Hell, think about that 1984 Carolina team that lost to Indiana.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I’m starting to wonder if Gonzaga is not, in fact, the greatest basketball team of the past 50 years.

Vegas, Duke, the Hoyas would've given them beatings. Maybe even your Flying Illini.



different eras, can't compare older teams to teams in the one and done era. How good would those teams have been had they been in the one and done era? Larry Johnson never steps foot on UNLV campus nowadays. Ewing is gone after one season. Laettner, Hurley both gone before Grant Hill ever shows up.

If Bird wanted Red Auerbach's cash, we don't get the Bird v. Magic rivalry in college and maybe not even in the pros. But yeah, teams on this level are now too few and far between.

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different eras, can't compare older teams to teams in the one and done era. How good would those teams have been had they been in the one and done era?


Sure you can. Those teams did exist.

Doesn’t matter if they wouldn’t exist now. They did and they were better than teams now.

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Can someone please let Shakes know that I think he is a pretty swell fella: nice to play golf with, shares weed, married way out over his skis and has 2 awesome puppies. There is really no reason to have me on ignore.

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HawaiiYou wrote:
UCLA will win. they know how to win in close games. Has gonzaga even played a close game this year?

Maybe you aren't KS, but indeed 312. Every prediction he makes is wrong also.



312 is like my CFMB brother. We are very much alike in our sports thoughts and opinions. sometimes even non-sports. big difference though is he likes dogs.


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Clarification wasn't necessarily needed.

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shakes wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I’m starting to wonder if Gonzaga is not, in fact, the greatest basketball team of the past 50 years.

Imagine if they actually played someone.



their conference schedule sucks balls, but they played a murderer's row pre-conference.

Kansas (#5 at the time)
Auburn
Iowa (#3 at the time)
West Virginia (#11 )
Virginia (#16)

Unfortunately their December 5 game vs #2 Baylor was Covid cancelled. But, looking back it was a good thing cause now both teams face each other with total blank slate.


I was messing with Doc. Back when he was proclaiming Illinois as the best team in the country he used the reasoning that Gonzaga did not play anyone.

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different eras, can't compare older teams to teams in the one and done era. How good would those teams have been had they been in the one and done era?


Sure you can. Those teams did exist.

Doesn’t matter if they wouldn’t exist now. They did and they were better than teams now.


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That's exactly why you can compare them. In the Big East's heyday, 2 or 3 teams from that conference alone would beat Gonzaga. Hell, think about that 1984 Carolina team that lost to Indiana.



You guys are missing the point. Obviously those teams are better than Gonzaga or any great team from this era because this era doesn't have very many NBA upper classmen and definitely doesn't have any upper classmen future NBA stars.

That's why it's not fair to compare those teams to Gonzaga. Those teams wouldn't exist if they were playing in this era. Gonzaga is playing under a much harder set of circumstances if the goal is to build an all time great team.

So yes, to put it in simple terms that you guys can understand, Gonzaga is NOT as good as the great teams from our youth. Those teams had it much easier than Gonzaga when it comes to roster building and player retention.


When you say that Gonzaga isn't as good as the great teams of yesteryear you're essentially just stating the obvious. So very astute observation guys.

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zags -4.5 seems too easy, baylor?


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Can someone please let Shakes know that I think he is a pretty swell fella: nice to play golf with, shares weed, married way out over his skis and has 2 awesome puppies. There is really no reason to have me on ignore.


new phone, who dis?



and I object to the bolded part. I'm the catch in our relationship.

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zags -4.5 seems too easy, baylor?



Don't know about that. All depends on if Kispert is going to show up for the first time all month. Odds are he won't in which case you should take that bet.

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shakes wrote:
different eras, can't compare older teams to teams in the one and done era. How good would those teams have been had they been in the one and done era?


Sure you can. Those teams did exist.

Doesn’t matter if they wouldn’t exist now. They did and they were better than teams now.


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That's exactly why you can compare them. In the Big East's heyday, 2 or 3 teams from that conference alone would beat Gonzaga. Hell, think about that 1984 Carolina team that lost to Indiana.



You guys are missing the point. Obviously those teams are better than Gonzaga or any great team from this era because this era doesn't have very many NBA upper classmen and definitely doesn't have any upper classmen future NBA stars.

That's why it's not fair to compare those teams to Gonzaga. Those teams wouldn't exist if they were playing in this era. Gonzaga is playing under a much harder set of circumstances if the goal is to build an all time great team.

So yes, to put it in simple terms that you guys can understand, Gonzaga is NOT as good as the great teams from our youth. Those teams had it much easier than Gonzaga when it comes to roster building and player retention.


When you say that Gonzaga isn't as good as the great teams of yesteryear you're essentially just stating the obvious. So very astute observation guys.

Since when do you give two shits about what's fair?

Shakes going soft because he fell in love with Suggs and Timme and the Gonzaga WAY.

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