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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:11 am 
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That's not a fact. It's your interpretation or theos comments and I'd argue that he never "justified" paying a guy under his market value at the time.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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You are remembering incorrectly.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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You are remembering incorrectly.

Yeah im really not. Again you want to bag Theo bag him for paying the guy to be an average + and power hitter. That I'd buy.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:23 am 
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I'm scoring it

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10-9 Darko
9-10 Frank
10-9 Darko


so far. Still think Frank has a right hook in him that can end it if he can land it.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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Darkside wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
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Yeah im really not.
Yeah you really are.
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“An impact defender,” Epstein said. “He gets great reads on the ball. Obviously, probably the best right fielder in the game that we feel can really play a solid-to-excellent center field as well."


That is just one example. There are MANY more. See for yourself if you need further proof.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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Darkside wrote:
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Yeah im really not.
Yeah you really are.
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“An impact defender,” Epstein said. “He gets great reads on the ball. Obviously, probably the best right fielder in the game that we feel can really play a solid-to-excellent center field as well."


That is just one example. There are MANY more. See for yourself if you need further proof.

He wasn't saying that to justify what he was spending though. He was offered 20M more by at least two other teams to play right. If the cubs paid him 220M to play center then you have a case. But you don't. Again, bag Theo for putting a Sally at the plate not where he'd play defense for his mistake of signing him.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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He wasn't saying that to justify what he was spending though.
He certainly was. You are misremembering.

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Again, bag Theo for putting a Sally at the plate not where he'd play defense for his mistake of signing him.
You can bag Theo for a ton of things. Most baseball execs make terrible moves now and then. God knows I've seen my team do that enough.

In December 2015, when Heyward was signed, he was signed in part to be the Cubs CF. That is a fact. There is no more that needs to be said.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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10-9 Darko
9-10 Frank
10-9 Darko


so far. Still think Frank has a right hook in him that can end it if he can land it.


The rest of the board, that has to read this drivel, are the only losers.


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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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The rest of the board, that has to read this drivel, are the only losers.
Now you know how we feel when we see a new Caller Bob post.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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Debate would be even better if HY got into it.


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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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HY thinks Jerome Walton is still running around CF at Wrigley.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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Something is really up with his swing. It looks so unnatural. Its weird.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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Not so much now because he's not making hard contact at all. He'll make hard contact down foul right field past the dugout. He'll hit screaming liners way way foul. Then, make an out hitting his signature dribbler to 2nd. Something's got to happen with him. They need to sit him and hope he wants a buyout. He's really nosedived since he's played the sjw card. Rickets has to be fuming. They cut payroll by 70+ million but he's stealing 184 million over his career. As unbelievable as it sounds his career Cubs ops is dipping towards below 700, now at 714.


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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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The MLBPA doesn't allow buyouts like the NBA and NHL do. And Heyward is now a 10 and 5 after last season, so he has full no trade rights.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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Its kind of bullshit that Theo can write this check and then duck out of town and just pretend it never happened.....just like his god awful carl crawford signing.

Heyward is infuriating. He reminds me of cerrano in major league 2 where he just hits weak shit every AB and is completely cool with it.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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Not so much now because he's not making hard contact at all. He'll make hard contact down foul right field past the dugout. He'll hit screaming liners way way foul. Then, make an out hitting his signature dribbler to 2nd. Something's got to happen with him. They need to sit him and hope he wants a buyout. He's really nosedived since he's played the sjw card. Rickets has to be fuming. They cut payroll by 70+ million but he's stealing 184 million over his career. As unbelievable as it sounds his career Cubs ops is dipping towards below 700, now at 714.


He sucked before the sjw horseshit, he is just a bad hitter and above average fielder.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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There has to be a loophole to pull the plug on his Cubs career. Sit him. For one thing drop the bs lovefeast and start calling him out. One good thing the team won't compete for a title the rest of his contract. Geez who knows they might one day have an OF prospect to push him like other teams draft. Not a bunch of noname hasbeen castoffs.


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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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A guy at the bar Saturday said he's not ready to give up on Heyward yet and he's always a slow starter and will win another gold glove this year


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. One good thing the team won't compete for a title the rest of his contract. Geez who knows they might one day have an OF prospect to push him like other teams draft.


haha. i hear the cubbies got some young talent in scot thompson and some guy named tarzan joe wallis in the wings.


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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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A guy at the bar Saturday said he's not ready to give up on Heyward yet and he's always a slow starter and will win another gold glove this year

Hasn't won a gold glove since 2017.


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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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With the potential that was expected, he has to be worst Cub free agent singing of all time,....right?


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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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Another bad money guy is the Orioles Chris Davis. Signed same year as Heyward. Even worse. Thought the O's ate his contract. But apparently he's still on the team buried on the injured list. The Cubs have to be planning some counter moves to get Heyward out of the picture.


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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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There's the fruity slow roller to second again today. This guy is fucking useless. And Mr. Defense still can't get a proper throw from shallow right into the plate. Should have had a play there in the first.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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0-3.
At what point do you just say he's killing his team and tell him to grab some pine?

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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Fucking embarrassing.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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5th in the order today was silly. 7 runners LOB 8 ab. Even vanilla ZZ referred to him as the "next scheduled hitter" bit past mid game. Theo screwed up crazy money. But, no team buy-out option about now for a few million was almost as dumb.


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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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5th in the order today was silly. 7 runners LOB 8 ab. Even vanilla ZZ referred to him as the "next scheduled hitter" bit past mid game. Theo screwed up crazy money. But, no team buy-out option about now for a few million was almost as dumb.


That's the inexcusable side, we're stuck with this chump for 3 more years on a terrible deal..so bat him 9th when he plays and bench his ass 50 games a year.

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Another bad money guy is the Orioles Chris Davis. Signed same year as Heyward. Even worse. Thought the O's ate his contract. But apparently he's still on the team buried on the injured list. The Cubs have to be planning some counter moves to get Heyward out of the picture.

They must hoping there is a lockout where they can save some of his 2022 salary, followed by the NHL-style ability to buy guys out with a reduced cap/tax hit.

If I'm Ross and I have to play him, then every time he is up with a runner on first I am making him bunt for a hit against the shift.

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