http://www.hoophall.com/hall-of-famers/drazen-petrovic


anyone else or should I just leave the link to the HOF website and search bar here?

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Dirk is the best, Giannis and Luka could change that though.

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Shakes is mowing down motherfuckers

Career regular season

Triple doubles- 4
Highest rank points game- 18th ('98-'99)
Highest PER rank- 19th ('95-'96)
Data HOF Probability- 0.5%

Congrats on the well deserved honor. Many enjoyable hours spent watching him on my KuCouch.

Probably should have been RoY too, but LeBron was the preordained choice.

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Yep, I'm aware of his Euro accomplishments and that they are the key driver behind him breaking in. If I could rephrase, and if we can imagine entrants are assigned "hats" to wear as they enter, I wouldn't say Kukoc should wear a Bulls hat as he enters. His time in Chicago, while memorable, is not the reason why he's in the HOF. I still think more can be done within the HOF to disentangle NBA players from those who primarily played overseas. Just totally different competitive landscapes though perhaps the gap is closing nowadays.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

Then shouldn't this guy be in?

FIBA Club World Cup champion (1986)
FIBA European League champion (1995)
3× USSR League champion (1985–1987)
2× ACB League champion (1993, 1994)
LKL champion (2004)
Spanish Cup winner (1993)
FIBA's 50 Greatest Players (1991)
50 Greatest EuroLeague Contributors (2008)
6× Euroscar Player of the Year (1984, 1985, 1988, 1995, 1997, 1999)
2× Mr. Europa Player of the Year (1985, 1997)
4× Lithuanian Sportsman of the Year (1984–1986, 1996)
EuroBasket MVP (1985)
FIBA European League Final Four MVP (1995)
EuroLeague Regular Season MVP (2004)
EuroLeague Top 16 MVP (2004)
All-EuroLeague First Team (2004)
2× Spanish League Finals MVP (1993, 1994)
2× Spanish League MVP (1994, 1995)
2× Spanish All-Star Game MVP (1991, 1992)
2× EuroLeague Finals Top Scorer (1986, 1995)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (1996)
No. 11 retired by Žalgiris Kaunas

EDIT: He is in. But he was a far greater player internationally than Kukoc.

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

Of course it's debatable. He wasn't as good as Kiki Vandeweghe.

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

Yao Ming had 7 years in the NBA. Petrovic 3. The Basketball HOF is just a different animal. Sabonis was the most talked about European player. Who was 2nd? And why? I guess Toni was a disappointment in the NBA. But they all were, up until Dirk.

Every Bull from either 3 peat should be in, my friend!

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I'd definitely put Ron Harper in before Kukoc.

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Start allowing Japanese pro player stats and awards for the MLB hof. What a joke. TK had his clutch moments for sure. He was slightly better than a average player overall. Huge defensive deficiencies. He was carried on Jordan and Pippen's back. 11pts, 4a, 4rb career. Wow! Might not even be in the Bulls top 10 all time players. For the guy who hero worships him. Bad choice.

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It's not that funny. His NBA career wasn't great. He played hurt the whole time. I understand your point that it's not the NBA HOF. The NBA is the top league though. I give more credit to guy like Sabonis who couldn't come. It's not like Japanese baseball players.

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

It's just not a surprise that he's in. Toni was a unicorn in Europe being a 6'10" ball handler. And he tore it up pretty good. He wasn't as successful as some would have liked for this honor, but the argument is he was one of those guys(Sabonis, Marciulionis, Petrovic) who paved the way for "the really good" European players. And this is how the Basketball HOF does things. It's nothing new.

Just like Nirvana paved the way for FooFighters.

Arvydas Sabonis?

let's ask shakes

I'm glad you claim to have gotten my point. Not really a point though, just stating the facts about what the HOF is to a bunch of clowns who are either too stupid or too stubborn to understand it.

As for your point, I can't claim to understand it at all. Are you saying that because Sabonis (who is in the HOF) was better than Kukoc that means Kukoc shouldn't be allowed in the HOF? Are we only allowed to have one Euro in the HOF?

Sabonis was awesome, his resume you listed speaks for itself. He is consistently ranked as high as #5 for the all time best Euro's ever. On those same lists we find Kuok who has a pretty amazing resume as well. On those lists he is sometimes higher and sometimes lower than Sabonis.

If you check out the top of most of those lists you'll find these players.

Dirk
Giannis
P. Gasol
Parker
Luka
Petrovic
Jokic
Stojakovic
M. Gasol
Kukoc
Divac
Sabonis


How many of those guys are not in the HOF or won't be first ballot guys when they become eligible?

This is as dumb as your Dominic Hasek argument years back

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Agreed. He barely makes it in.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

naw, Jorr can handle all the Sabonis calls.

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Polio doesn't get in to the Pandemic HOF.

I'm not against Kukoc getting in, but if that's the case, when does Derrick Rose get in too.

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Certified Dirty Old Man

Rose keeps playing like he's playing and who knows, maybe he'll get in as well. If he doesn't get in he'll be the only MVP winner not in the HOF. Fucking knees!

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Oscar Schmidt is in. Never played one game in the NBA.

By what measure is Kukoc better than Vandeweghe?

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

And then we can have discussions about OJ Mayo getting in.

Walt Williams

Why would the international committee vote Rose or Mayo in?