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:lol: That was great. I didn't know you could even run back towards the plate like that.

The best baseruning was the runner at 3rd.

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Fucking brilliance.

Just wow.

Discredit the defense all you want but my goodness


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Fucking brilliance.

Just wow.

Discredit the defense all you want but my goodness


Even after the run was safe, it wouldn't have counted with a good throw to first.

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Fucking brilliance.

Just wow.

Discredit the defense all you want but my goodness


Even after the run was safe, it wouldn't have counted with a good throw to first.

But this level of heads up baserunning is the epitome of put the pressure on the defense.

And dude is el mago because love him or hate him he can make magic out of nothing like no when else in the game’s long, storied history


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I don't give any credit to the Cubs on that play. It's just a bunch of brain cramps on the part of the Pirates. All you have to do is ignore the guy trying to score and tag Baez.

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I don't give any credit to the Cubs on that play. It's just a bunch of brain cramps on the part of the Pirates. All you have to do is ignore the guy trying to score and tag Baez.


Been a bad week of baseball thoughts for you. Stick to slaying Brick in COVID.


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I don't give any credit to the Cubs on that play. It's just a bunch of brain cramps on the part of the Pirates. All you have to do is ignore the guy trying to score and tag Baez.

Actually if Contreras scores before you tag Baez, the run counts. The 1B just needed to step on the base once he had Baez running backwards.

I was only half paying attention and thought there was only one out. With two out, Baez just tricked the 1B into thinking it was more complicated than it needed to be.

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Baez didn't quit. If he quits nothing happens.


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I don't give any credit to the Cubs on that play. It's just a bunch of brain cramps on the part of the Pirates. All you have to do is ignore the guy trying to score and tag Baez.

That’s really not the point. If your opposition makes a mistake and you counter in real time. And another mistake happens and you smartly counter once again in real time you deserve to be commended


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I thought running backwards was an auto out, and the baserunner(s) have to go back to their original bags. I've seen that called multiple times, all though not at the MLB level.

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That was the greatest freakin' play. Yeah, the Pirates blew it but who does that on the basepath?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I don't give any credit to the Cubs on that play. It's just a bunch of brain cramps on the part of the Pirates. All you have to do is ignore the guy trying to score and tag Baez.


He made the mistake because Baez put pressure on him. It put him in an unusual situation and he had a brain cramp because of it.

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I don't give any credit to the Cubs on that play. It's just a bunch of brain cramps on the part of the Pirates. All you have to do is ignore the guy trying to score and tag Baez.

Actually if Contreras scores before you tag Baez, the run counts. The 1B just needed to step on the base once he had Baez running backwards.

I was only half paying attention and thought there was only one out. With two out, Baez just tricked the 1B into thinking it was more complicated than it needed to be.


It's a forceout at first base. He can tag him or touch the bag. It doesn't matter which. The run would not count. Here's the rule:

4.09 HOW A TEAM SCORES.

(a) One run shall be scored each time a runner legally advances to and touches first, second, third and home base before three men are put out to end the inning. EXCEPTION: A run is not scored if the runner advances to home base during a play in which the third out is made (1) by the batter-runner before he touches first base; (2) by any runner being forced out; or (3) by a preceding runner who is declared out because he failed to touch one of the bases.

Now go fuck yourself, Caller Bob, you fucking dumbass.

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Im imagining the conversation in the pirates dugout after that starting off with "are you an idiot?" for not just stepping on first. I mean, its the idea of why you want guys going for extra bases or stealing or running routine shit out, put a little pressure on the defense and maybe the f up..


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I don't give any credit to the Cubs on that play. It's just a bunch of brain cramps on the part of the Pirates. All you have to do is ignore the guy trying to score and tag Baez.


He made the mistake because Baez put pressure on him. It put him in an unusual situation and he had a brain cramp because of it.



That's fair, I suppose. But there is a lot of hyperbole re: how great it was. It was either Pirate panic or not knowing the rules like Caller Bob.

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That was the greatest freakin' play. Yeah, the Pirates blew it but who does that on the basepath?

Someone who was already thinking that he might have to get himself into a rundown between 1B and 2B on an infield hit so that Contreras can try and score.

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That was the greatest freakin' play. Yeah, the Pirates blew it but who does that on the basepath?

Someone who was already thinking that he might have to get himself into a rundown between 1B and 2B on an infield hit so that Contreras can try and score.



Maybe Baez didn't know the rule either.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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I don't give any credit to the Cubs on that play. It's just a bunch of brain cramps on the part of the Pirates. All you have to do is ignore the guy trying to score and tag Baez.

Actually if Contreras scores before you tag Baez, the run counts. The 1B just needed to step on the base once he had Baez running backwards.

I was only half paying attention and thought there was only one out. With two out, Baez just tricked the 1B into thinking it was more complicated than it needed to be.


It's a forceout at first base. He can tag him or touch the bag. It doesn't matter which. The run would not count. Here's the rule:

4.09 HOW A TEAM SCORES.

(a) One run shall be scored each time a runner legally advances to and touches first, second, third and home base before three men are put out to end the inning. EXCEPTION: A run is not scored if the runner advances to home base during a play in which the third out is made (1) by the batter-runner before he touches first base; (2) by any runner being forced out; or (3) by a preceding runner who is declared out because he failed to touch one of the bases.

Now go fuck yourself, Caller Bob, you fucking dumbass.


I never disputed any of that. I think you should direct that at Chet.


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I don't give any credit to the Cubs on that play. It's just a bunch of brain cramps on the part of the Pirates. All you have to do is ignore the guy trying to score and tag Baez.


He made the mistake because Baez put pressure on him. It put him in an unusual situation and he had a brain cramp because of it.


Agreed. Nobody practices a rundown between home and first. But, you are also not used to watching a guy run from you at first in that direction and it messes up your muscle memory as a first-baseman that is used to doing that on a play from first to second.

Baez's weird instincts screwed up normal instincts of a player that has done the same thing for 20 years since he was 5.

I'll give Javy some credit on that for sure. But, the guy still should have taken a moment to figure it out.

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Caller Bob wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
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I don't give any credit to the Cubs on that play. It's just a bunch of brain cramps on the part of the Pirates. All you have to do is ignore the guy trying to score and tag Baez.

Actually if Contreras scores before you tag Baez, the run counts. The 1B just needed to step on the base once he had Baez running backwards.

I was only half paying attention and thought there was only one out. With two out, Baez just tricked the 1B into thinking it was more complicated than it needed to be.


It's a forceout at first base. He can tag him or touch the bag. It doesn't matter which. The run would not count. Here's the rule:

4.09 HOW A TEAM SCORES.

(a) One run shall be scored each time a runner legally advances to and touches first, second, third and home base before three men are put out to end the inning. EXCEPTION: A run is not scored if the runner advances to home base during a play in which the third out is made (1) by the batter-runner before he touches first base; (2) by any runner being forced out; or (3) by a preceding runner who is declared out because he failed to touch one of the bases.

Now go fuck yourself, Caller Bob, you fucking dumbass.


I never disputed any of that. I think you should direct that at Chet.


Chet just didn't know the rule. He's not an asshole like you. :lol:

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But, the guy still should have taken a moment to figure it out.



It's bad that both the first baseman and the catcher couldn't figure out that all they had to do was tag Baez.

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But, the guy still should have taken a moment to figure it out.



It's bad that both the first baseman and the catcher couldn't figure out that all they had to do was tag Baez.


That's a lot to think about when you are dealing with what is in front of you which looks like a rundown.

They're doing what they were trained to do in a rundown for their whole lives.

Baez just fooled them into thinking it was a rundown.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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But, the guy still should have taken a moment to figure it out.



It's bad that both the first baseman and the catcher couldn't figure out that all they had to do was tag Baez.


That's a lot to think about when you are dealing with what is in front of you which looks like a rundown.

They're doing what they were trained to do in a rundown for their whole lives.

Baez just fooled them into thinking it was a rundown.

Shame the second baseman wasn't fooled into covering 1st like he should of in a rundown situation. It was a fun play and I am greatly amused but lot of brain farts going on,


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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I don't give any credit to the Cubs on that play. It's just a bunch of brain cramps on the part of the Pirates. All you have to do is ignore the guy trying to score and tag Baez.

Actually if Contreras scores before you tag Baez, the run counts. The 1B just needed to step on the base once he had Baez running backwards.

I was only half paying attention and thought there was only one out. With two out, Baez just tricked the 1B into thinking it was more complicated than it needed to be.


It's a forceout at first base. He can tag him or touch the bag. It doesn't matter which. The run would not count. Here's the rule:

4.09 HOW A TEAM SCORES.

(a) One run shall be scored each time a runner legally advances to and touches first, second, third and home base before three men are put out to end the inning. EXCEPTION: A run is not scored if the runner advances to home base during a play in which the third out is made (1) by the batter-runner before he touches first base; (2) by any runner being forced out; or (3) by a preceding runner who is declared out because he failed to touch one of the bases.

Now go fuck yourself, Caller Bob, you fucking dumbass.


I never disputed any of that. I think you should direct that at Chet.


Chet just didn't know the rule. He's not an asshole like you. :lol:

I just repeated what JD said on the broadcast, that only the actual force invalidates the run, not a tag. Go yell at him.

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I don't give any credit to the Cubs on that play. It's just a bunch of brain cramps on the part of the Pirates. All you have to do is ignore the guy trying to score and tag Baez.


This. Complete fundamental stupidity.

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JORR in this thread is hilarious.

Great play by Baez and Contreras

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I just repeated what JD said on the broadcast, that only the actual force invalidates the run, not a tag. Go yell at him.


I guess he thought the same thing the Pirate catcher did, that it was like a run down between second and third without a runner on first. The problem is that Baez can't be "safe" at home.

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