I won't miss Nisei either. Again, that isn't the point.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Then why start a thread about a bar that you won't miss?

They have a right to do what they did. The free market will ultimately decide their fate for them.

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Are you sure about that?

It is pretty funny that a scary cough can so easily convert heretofore pro-regulation liberal Democrats into free market absolutist libertarians.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Its funny that you actually believe the owners of Nisei did what they did over a scary cough.

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I believe they did it because DRUMPF. A lot of people do a lot of stupid shit because DRUMPF.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

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You all make my parchment hurt.

I'm pretty sure the government won't be forcing people to go to Nisei.

And there is nothing at all surprising about a Chicago Democrat.

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A few thoughts:

The HIPAA argument doesn't really have any application in this discussion. HIPAA regulates the sharing of medical information without consent of the patient... nothing that is happening with Nisei involves this (or does any other business story which I have heard of so far.) In all of these instances, the patient is being asked directly to share the information. (HIPAA does some other things as well but those are not germane to this topic of discussion.)

The rights of a private business to reject individual access on the basis of specific criteria is one which has been regulated in many areas. Covid doesn't seem to fall into an area which would be considered a protected class, although one could easily imagine examples where this could turn into a protected class for a specific individual. My religion prohibits me from getting vaccines, therefore banning me from your establishment is a violation of the first amendment. I have a high-risk pregnancy and I have signed documents from my physicians advising me that the vaccine would be a risk to my health as well as my baby.

If Nisei isn't providing accomodation for protected classes, then they would be liable to lawsuits/prosecution under unfair business practices. Note that this accomodation could be a special room reserved for those that are not vaccinated -- it doesn't have to be exactly equivalent to what a regular customer would receive. Their biggest concern should be accomodating their own employees, as employees are in a protected class and mitigation would have to be provided for those working with the non-vaccinated customer group. If Nisei were found to be negligent in that, an employee could bring a meritous lawsuit against them.

For the person who asked whether screening for PReP would be an equivalent -- it is a little bit more tricky because sexual orientation has become a protected class. Most straight people do not take PReP. Persons assigned female at birth are not eligible to take PReP. You have a few issues here that more commonly affect protected classes -- a vaccine doesn't have that same targeted impact.

Whoa!

Nevermind, mult

Isn't that Leash?

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Irish Boy

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Late May and into June always brings about entertaining threads around here.

Annual tradition.

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where will Joe be able to drink his shot of Malort with an Old Style chaser when he leaves the Cubbie game after special guest Jeff Tweedy sings Take Me Out To The Ballgame, now?

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Its awesome. Theres not a doubt in my mind, every business that continues to push health issues on their staff and customers will be out of business within a year. People go out to mingle, not to be segregated.

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

Where did you find a pic of IMU?

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An unjust law is no law at all--St. Augustine of Hippo

Cause tried and true
I see the light in you
Oh, can you dig in my soul?
Could you smell my whole...
life?--Gener and Deaner

That dude is 1000x more manly than imu.

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

Thats the look Eugene Levy’s kid has made a living off of now.

It’s a strong beard game.

I need some beard oil suggestions. Been OK with current product but I think there is better.

And, oh yeah, COVID, restrictions, vax and stuff..

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You know me like that.

He’s probably not gonna fuck you dude.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Yeah, this insult really doesn't work in this case. I'd say good try but it wasn't.

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

Moraccainoil
https://www.walmart.com/ip/44-Value-Mor ... lsrc=aw.ds

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No one better tell JORR about the opening up of travel to France to the same group.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

Many viruses we vaccinate against need to reach a certain percentage to reach herd immunity to protect everyone. The COVID vaccine may be so effective that we don't. Also, it seems to significantly lessen the chance of serious symptoms even if you are one of the unlucky 5% who get vaccinated and don't get immunity. I don't believe that is the same with measles or other viruses.

Speaking of that other thread, I seem to remember you arguing that vaccines may not have actually been what significantly lowered the incidence of those diseases and maybe our natural immune system worked. If you believe I am wrong, I am sure I can find the quotes to be completely accurate. Do you believe this vaccine has been highly effective against stopping COVID?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

You remember correctly.

My body fought off the corona virus. I don't need an experimental vaccine.

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Most viruses don't kill 100% of the people they infect but that's pretty cool with your immune system.

Do you believe this vaccine has been highly effective against stopping COVID?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

It's a good question.

We don't really have any idea how many other people like me there are out there that do not need a vaccine they are getting.

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It is a good question. A good answer would be nice too.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Neither one of us can answer it.

If you had the virus, you don't need the vaccine.

MANY others had it with mild symptoms, and have the antibodies.

The amount of deaths to those under 65, is less than a bad flu season if you believe what Fauci said in his emails.

So, they don't need a vaccine either.

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