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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:34 am 
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Somewhere with a good water supply. The west is FUCKED in that regard.


Knowing you're somewhere between the 8th green and 10th fairway, you'll make it 18 with plenty of water no problem in Maricopa County. It'd be a problem and a more complicated conversation if you were starting your round of golf tomorrow.


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It's going to be a problem a lot sooner than that. Maybe even within the next few weeks. There are a lot of crops grown and a lot of ranching done in the west, California in particular. Less water means less crops and less animals for slaughter, which means less product for all of us, which means prices are going to go even higher for basic foods/

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I would be in Alaska year-round, if up to me.

I think New Mexico looks fabulous in Breaking Bad and BCSaul...except for the rampant meth trade, of course.

I'm wondering about the school systems over there in ILL, with two responses of "Northern Italy" and "Portugal". Of course, one is from MY GUY!, the Inibriated Rodent...


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A part of me would love to live in Wyoming. But I’d probably change my mind pretty quickly.


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The western-most part of southeast North Dakota.

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I would be in Alaska year-round, if up to me.

I think New Mexico looks fabulous in Breaking Bad and BCSaul...except for the rampant meth trade, of course.

I'm wondering about the school systems over there in ILL, with two responses of "Northern Italy" and "Portugal". Of course, one is from MY GUY!, the Inibriated Rodent...


My go to response when I get frustrated and tell people I'm getting out of farming and moving to Portugal. I don't know why. Maybe because I can't take the cows there or maybe I heard they have good Port. I don't know. I know I don't speak Portuguese so I would have no idea what's going on and some days that seems like a bonus. But mostly it's because I can't take the cows.

I like traveling around this country plenty though so it would be hard to pick a place to stay forever besides where I am (Inertia). I do know I need to get away from this place more than I do.


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It will be interesting to see what life is like here as friends retire and move away. There are plenty of adults still in my neighborhood who I have known since I was a kid.

I have a long time to go here. The very earliest retirement possibility is still a decade away but I can see putting in 20 more years.

As always, I doubt I'll move to another state. Why would I move when I would want to travel all the time anyway? I've seen a lot but there is a big part of the world I've never sampled. I want to have hit every continent. Once the boys are gone, I wouldn't mind following that horrible human Tim Tebow's lead and start spending time volunteering in other countries.


I certainly understand the desire to live in a state with better weather or lower taxes. But there's definitely a tradeoff involved. For all the talk about the backwardness of Midwesterners, Southerners and New Englanders are far worse in this regard--and this isn't even taking their aggressively hostile provincialism into account. Living in the South might be bearable if it weren't for all the Southerners.

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Savannah, Georgia.


This. Or Asheville, North Carolina.


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This discussion always leads back to Montana when my wife and I have it. Occasionally I think someplace warmer but I’d guess when my youngest is off to collegr we will at the very least spend a portion of the year out there.

For warmer areas I kind of agree with Doc on the Savanah (I like Charleston as well) area. Or Portugal.


Solid call on Portugal. In a few years, will be looking at a place there, post retirement.


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South Carolina or in the mountains of the NC/Tennessee border.



Me too.

Eastern tennessee.

or Northern Florida.

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Somewhere with a good water supply. The west is FUCKED in that regard.


The Village of Bedford Park, Illinois.


:lol:

Are those ads still running?



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

yes they are.

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My wife's Uncle and Aunt have given up their huge cabin on a private lake in far NW WI and their winter home n Case Grande, AZ to settle in Asheville, NC. We have yet to visit, but possibly, this summer.

One off the guys I follow on YouTube has moved from suburban Indy to the hills of TN. It has allowed him to hide from covid, avoid fines/complaints from his HOA about his activity, pay far less in taxes and shoot/blow shit up at will. But it still freezes and snows, the bugs and humidity start much earlier, and one neighbor has 20 dogs who bark incessantly when the neighbor leaves home.

Every place has it's pros and cons, some you could work with or around, others you'd have to outspend. Contentment is desirable.


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A balmy 108 in Casa Grande before noon today.

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A balmy 108 in Casa Grande before noon today.

But it’s an unmoist heat. People forget that.

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Not going to lie, but I probably would stay put.

I like the communities and combination of outdoor and indoor amenities around where I live. The climate is great too where we basically get only 6 weeks of winter but our summers are not too much hotter than what is experienced in the Midwest. Water is no concern either as this area grows as we have a pretty large artificial lake.

We just had my wife's extended family visit us over the last month and some of them are now looking to see if they can move down here and get out of Illinois. FIL retires in a year and he is for sure doing that. He is done with Cook County. I told him to buy now as developers are running out of buildable lots and while they can of course acquire new land and start subdivisons from scratch, he'll be paying a premium on anything that is in a subdivision that hasn't already been started.

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Not going to lie, but I probably would stay put.

I like the communities and combination of outdoor and indoor amenities around where I live. The climate is great too where we basically get only 6 weeks of winter but our summers are not too much hotter than what is experienced in the Midwest. Water is no concern either as this area grows as we have a pretty large artificial lake.

We just had my wife's extended family visit us over the last month and some of them are now looking to see if they can move down here and get out of Illinois. FIL retires in a year and he is for sure doing that. He is done with Cook County. I told him to buy now as developers are running out of buildable lots and while they can of course acquire new land and start subdivisons from scratch, he'll be paying a premium on anything that is in a subdivision that hasn't already been started.


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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Not going to lie, but I probably would stay put.

I like the communities and combination of outdoor and indoor amenities around where I live. The climate is great too where we basically get only 6 weeks of winter but our summers are not too much hotter than what is experienced in the Midwest. Water is no concern either as this area grows as we have a pretty large artificial lake.

We just had my wife's extended family visit us over the last month and some of them are now looking to see if they can move down here and get out of Illinois. FIL retires in a year and he is for sure doing that. He is done with Cook County. I told him to buy now as developers are running out of buildable lots and while they can of course acquire new land and start subdivisons from scratch, he'll be paying a premium on anything that is in a subdivision that hasn't already been started.

There’s a lot to like about that area but the problem with the south is southerners. Not quite as bad as Texans but close.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Not going to lie, but I probably would stay put.

I like the communities and combination of outdoor and indoor amenities around where I live. The climate is great too where we basically get only 6 weeks of winter but our summers are not too much hotter than what is experienced in the Midwest. Water is no concern either as this area grows as we have a pretty large artificial lake.

We just had my wife's extended family visit us over the last month and some of them are now looking to see if they can move down here and get out of Illinois. FIL retires in a year and he is for sure doing that. He is done with Cook County. I told him to buy now as developers are running out of buildable lots and while they can of course acquire new land and start subdivisons from scratch, he'll be paying a premium on anything that is in a subdivision that hasn't already been started.


Where are you?


He's in NW AR, and it's really beautiful where he is.

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I hear the mountain bike trails are second to none.

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I lived and worked in northern Italy for five years and bought half of my friend's parent's flat in Feltre. Not much to look at from the outside, but in typical Euro fashion, the inside has a kitchen with dark wood and marble floors throughout. I need an ocean separating me from this insane and cruel society. I can always go to Verona or Venice and have a laugh at the American families screaming at each other on their vacations.

MAESTRO: Oh yeah, I've been at my house in Tuscany.

KRAMER: Oh Tuscany huh? Hear that Jerry? That's in Italy.

JERRY: I hear it's ah beautiful there.

MAESTRO: Well if you're thinking of getting a place there don't bother. There's really nothing available.

JERRY: What about his house in Tuscany, he mention that?

ELAINE: Yeah. (bragging) I'm invited.

JERRY: You know when I told him it was beautiful there, out of the clear blue sky he says there's nothing to rent. As if he doesn't want anyone else there.

ELAINE: Why?

JERRY: I don't know. Maybe he's embarrassed by Americans.

ELAINE: Yeah, well maybe there aren't any houses to rent there.

JERRY: In all of Tuscany? I wonder.


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I lived and worked in northern Italy for five years and bought half of my friend's parent's flat in Feltre. Not much to look at from the outside, but in typical Euro fashion, the inside has a kitchen with dark wood and marble floors throughout. I need an ocean separating me from this insane and cruel society. I can always go to Verona or Venice and have a laugh at the American families screaming at each other on their vacations.


I prefer the cuisine of Northern Italy to Southern Italy.

I love a good risotto and copious amounts of butter in my dishes.

Like Southern cuisine also, don’t get me wrong.

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Florida, Georgia or Texas.

A year and a half ago, I moved my Sister (her family) and my Mother (who had moved from here to live with her after retirement), in Portland, ME to Orlando. Long story behind it, but anyway, it was over Halloween and we were getting snow here and 20* - 30* temps. I was in their pool in 85* beauty that final Saturday morning before I left. Saturday evening I was back at O'Hare and so rudely greeted by 26* and frozen crap on the ground. The first thought I had was "WHY?" "Why do I put up with this shit?"

Because Orlando in June, July, and August is also miserable. It's just a different type of miserable.


Orlando is also miserable in Jan, Dec, July, March, May, Oct, Sept, Nov and Feb.


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My go to response when I get frustrated and tell people I'm getting out of farming and moving to Portugal. I don't know why. Maybe because I can't take the cows there or maybe I heard they have good Port. I don't know. I know I don't speak Portuguese so I would have no idea what's going on and some days that seems like a bonus. But mostly it's because I can't take the cows.
So you're going to mooooove?

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Depends on where work is available or the balance of remote v in-office work available.
FL, TX (Austin) are the leading candidates.

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Austin will basically be Chicago in 3-5 years. (in terms of crime and liberals running the place into the ground).


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That's what we heard on our trip to TX.


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That's what we heard on our trip to TX.

There's still no state Income tax in TX and FL.
Both have property taxes that are well over 50% less than IL. Home prices themselves are higher, but that's fine with me.

I'm just done with winter and snow.

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Housing market around me is going crazy, people are getting multiple offers over asking price, it is very tempting to take out equity now before the housing market corrects.

Scouting location in NW Wisconsin, amazed at how low the property taxes are compared to those here in Illinois, could pay cash for a small lakefront property with my half of the equity from the house. Have a lot of family and even former neighbors who have relocated up there and love the peace and quiet.

Looking forward to spending free time Musky fishing as I make the turn toward the back nine of life.


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Last few days I've been applying to jobs in the Orlando area primarily and maybe one or two in the Tampa area.

We'll see what comes of that. If something did, I would actually probably WFH (here) as long as possible, but as I posted before, it would open up the potential reality of moving there.

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