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I loved Carson and Letterman, I don't know if I would have liked them now. I wish I'd have caught more of Ferguson, he's funny and seems decent. I'm sad, almost despondent about Jimmy Kimmel.


Jimmy Kimmel is such a disappointment. Fake everything from head to toe.

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Say what you will about Jimmy Kimmel doing full-body blackface but that is an impressively faithful interpretation of the Utah Jazz's early-2000s alternate black jersey.

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Say what you will about Jimmy Kimmel doing full-body blackface but that is an impressively faithful interpretation of the Utah Jazz's early-2000s alternate black jersey.


Full on black face of a guy who got a 13 year old pregnant when he was in college. Intersectionality of outrage.

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Chelsea Handler would be better than any of the network hosts going right now, all of whom seem to be crying all the time.

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Say what you will about Jimmy Kimmel doing full-body blackface but that is an impressively faithful interpretation of the Utah Jazz's early-2000s alternate black jersey.


Full on black face of a guy who got a 13 year old pregnant when he was in college. Intersectionality of outrage.

Obviously not a Utah Jamz fan.

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Chelsea Handler would be better than any of the network hosts going right now, all of whom seem to be crying all the time.


She's a full time activist now, and would be crying with them.

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Does anyone watch The Amber Ruffin Show who doesn't have a byline?


Pretty sure the Black Ops guys at Gitmo alternate between blasting Infant Annihilator and playing Amber Ruffin clips 24/7. Word on the street is that the terrorists finally crack after about 15 minutes of Amber. There is NO WAY IN HELL Stem Meyers actually believes she's funny and/or smart. She infuriates me and unless I know Armisen is behind the kit, I refuse to watch Meyers.
Don't get me started on Noah, Colbert, Corden, etc.

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An example of Snyder in his CBS twilight: https://youtu.be/4su92dvgdkU

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Say what you will about Jimmy Kimmel doing full-body blackface but that is an impressively faithful interpretation of the Utah Jazz's early-2000s alternate black jersey.


Full on black face of a guy who got a 13 year old pregnant when he was in college. Intersectionality of outrage.

Obviously not a Utah Jamz fan.
It's like Karl Malone always say, everytime you eat a egg, that's like eating a chicken's baby.

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I'm too young to remember Snyder but knew him as the host before Ferguson and Kilborn. A quick Wikipedia search tells me he had a show on NBC after Carson -- I guess Charles Manson was on once :lol: :lol:

Wikipedia also tells me Letterman idolized him too and hired him over at CBS. These are things I didn't know that I wish was covered in the CNN series.


Yep, Letterman was beset with guilt that he replaced Snyder at NBC, so he hired him at CBS. Then CBS, which was finally getting serious around 1998-99 after their post-NFL dark age, ushered him out the door for Craig Kilborn.

I remember catching The Late Late Show a few times when I was a kid. It's a corollary to the M*A*S*H/Taxi themes: when smooth jazz played and the talk show wasn't a comedy anymore, you knew it was really time to go to bed.


I forgot Letterman would have been the one that replaced Snyder at NBC. Crazy stuff.

I didn't know the NFL wasn't on CBS for a time. Found this from the Ringer a couple nights ago, finally got around to reading it earlier this morning. Fantastic oral history of what went down:

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/12/13/18137938/nfl-fox-deal-rupert-murdoch-1993-john-madden-terry-bradshaw-howie-long-jimmy-johnson-cbs-nbc


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CBS losing the NFL was such a big deal that WITI in Milwaukee changed affiliations from CBS to Fox in 1994 in order to keep the majority of the Packers' schedule. That was channel 6 in the tail end of when VHF/UHF mattered. CBS had to scramble to get back into Milwaukee and had to settle for channel 58. And I know it's hard to say it without sounding like a crazy person, but I may be one anyway, so I'll say it: CBS losing the NFL started a chain reaction that led to Donald Trump becoming the president.

When NBC lost the NFL in a corresponding move with CBS getting it back, they hit the skids, even if in their case it was the AFC they were losing, and didn't start pulling themselves back together until they got Sunday Night Football. (Remember, too, that they also lost Michael Jordan and Seinfeld that year.)

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CBS losing the NFL was such a big deal that WITI in Milwaukee changed affiliations from CBS to Fox in 1994 in order to keep the majority of the Packers' schedule. That was channel 6 in the tail end of when VHF/UHF mattered. CBS had to scramble to get back into Milwaukee and had to settle for channel 58. And I know it's hard to say it without sounding like a crazy person, but I may be one anyway, so I'll say it: CBS losing the NFL started a chain reaction that led to Donald Trump becoming the president.

When NBC lost the NFL in a corresponding move with CBS getting it back, they hit the skids, even if in their case it was the AFC they were losing, and didn't start pulling themselves back together until they got Sunday Night Football. (Remember, too, that they also lost Michael Jordan and Seinfeld that year.)


there was a certain amount of innocence lost when CBS lost the NFC and Fox acquired it. Fox has had a negative imprint of sports coverage, although maybe it was destined to go in that direction anyway. I've always hated their chuckle fest pre game (lived for the NFL Today on CBS). I hate how they superimpose fake stadium sounds. Everything just seems so faux with them.

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CBS losing the NFL was such a big deal that WITI in Milwaukee changed affiliations from CBS to Fox in 1994 in order to keep the majority of the Packers' schedule. That was channel 6 in the tail end of when VHF/UHF mattered. CBS had to scramble to get back into Milwaukee and had to settle for channel 58. And I know it's hard to say it without sounding like a crazy person, but I may be one anyway, so I'll say it: CBS losing the NFL started a chain reaction that led to Donald Trump becoming the president.

When NBC lost the NFL in a corresponding move with CBS getting it back, they hit the skids, even if in their case it was the AFC they were losing, and didn't start pulling themselves back together until they got Sunday Night Football. (Remember, too, that they also lost Michael Jordan and Seinfeld that year.)


there was a certain amount of innocence lost when CBS lost the NFC and Fox acquired it. Fox has had a negative imprint of sports coverage, although maybe it was destined to go in that direction anyway. I've always hated their chuckle fest pre game (lived for the NFL Today on CBS). I hate how they superimpose fake stadium sounds. Everything just seems so faux with them.


I'm not sure exactly how destined it was. Remember that as late as at least 1998, so through Jordan and the end of the AFC deal, NBC wouldn't run a constant score/clock display because Dick Ebersol thought it would make people change the channel. Maybe that would have happened eventually, but those Fox scoreboards that would go bleep-bleep-bleep-bloop-bloop and explode into flames, or every pregame show being five or six people yelling over each other and laughing at who-knows-what? I think that was one network imposing its sensibilities on everyone else.

An interesting thing about Fox poaching the NFC from CBS is that both principals (Murdoch at Fox, Tisch at CBS) seemed to have a certain contempt for television, but it manifested itself in opposite ways.

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Looks like Corden is in trouble because he called balut gross.

It is gross.

I take offense at cooking good cow meat into leather. That’s gross too.

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"If you don't like it, there's a way to be respectful about it," she added.

You're watching a late-night comedy show, not Rick Steves. Find respect somewhere else, you big baby!

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"The next time we do that bit, we absolutely won't involve or use any of those foods," Corden said in the June 16 interview, when asked about the recent criticism. "As you said at the start, our show is a show about joy and light and love.

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You're watching a late night comedy show, not Rick Steves. Find respect somewhere else, you big baby!


Filipinos laugh when a white guy tries balut. They love it.

I love peanut butter and Dorito sandwiches. If you think it’s gross, and most do, I don’t really care.

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Nothing on television is for adults anymore. Everything is for babies.

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Don’t get me started on the post-golf party where I started doing shots of Lambanóg with twigs and Juicy Fruit gum marinating in the bottle.

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The twigs, I understand, but you'll have to explain the Juicy Fruit.

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Lambanog is uniquely Filipino, and is made from coconuts that are distilled into a type of alcohol, vaguely resembling tequila or vodka. Informally it is called coconut or tuba wine… The difference between tuba and lambanog is distillation: Tuba is fermented but lambanog is distilled and very potent. Rebecca’s relatives make lambanog up in Abulug, sweetening it (or “Aging” it, as they call it) with Juicy Fruit chewing gum and raisins for around two months. Let me tell you that this aging is important.

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It was actually quite good.

And you don’t feel the potency right away. And that’s when it gets dangerous.

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Is the gum used or fresh?

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CBS losing the NFL was such a big deal that WITI in Milwaukee changed affiliations from CBS to Fox in 1994 in order to keep the majority of the Packers' schedule. That was channel 6 in the tail end of when VHF/UHF mattered. CBS had to scramble to get back into Milwaukee and had to settle for channel 58. And I know it's hard to say it without sounding like a crazy person, but I may be one anyway, so I'll say it: CBS losing the NFL started a chain reaction that led to Donald Trump becoming the president.

When NBC lost the NFL in a corresponding move with CBS getting it back, they hit the skids, even if in their case it was the AFC they were losing, and didn't start pulling themselves back together until they got Sunday Night Football. (Remember, too, that they also lost Michael Jordan and Seinfeld that year.)


So basically you're saying because NBC lost the NFL, Michael Jordan, and Seinfeld in 1998 -- and then the NBA altogether in 2002, that's what led them to strike a deal with Trump and his tv show?


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Well, try this one out. If Star Trek: Voyager had been more popular in its early run and the actress that played Kes wasn't a sexual pervert, then they would not have needed to bring in Jeri Ryan as Seven of Nine.

So, no one would have really noticed that the Ryans were involved in sex clubs and filed to unseal their court documents for the salacious details when neither one of them wanted those court documents made public.

At that point, Obama is never elected and, therefore, would not have insulted Trump at a media dinner and Trump would never have bothered to become a candidate.

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I was watching the Phil Ponce retirement retrospective on Chicago Tonight yesterday and they highlighted his Blair Hull debate question about his assault on his wife.

Obama had so many things break his way in his political career based on nothing but pure luck. The road opened to him almost from the very beginning, with Bobby Rush being the only bump.

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Milt Rosenberg would be very proud of the counterfactuals in this thread.

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CBS losing the NFL was such a big deal that WITI in Milwaukee changed affiliations from CBS to Fox in 1994 in order to keep the majority of the Packers' schedule. That was channel 6 in the tail end of when VHF/UHF mattered. CBS had to scramble to get back into Milwaukee and had to settle for channel 58. And I know it's hard to say it without sounding like a crazy person, but I may be one anyway, so I'll say it: CBS losing the NFL started a chain reaction that led to Donald Trump becoming the president.

When NBC lost the NFL in a corresponding move with CBS getting it back, they hit the skids, even if in their case it was the AFC they were losing, and didn't start pulling themselves back together until they got Sunday Night Football. (Remember, too, that they also lost Michael Jordan and Seinfeld that year.)


So basically you're saying because NBC lost the NFL, Michael Jordan, and Seinfeld in 1998 -- and then the NBA altogether in 2002, that's what led them to strike a deal with Trump and his tv show?


What really screwed NBC was that after 1998, they put all their eggs in the Friends basket. By the end, the main cast really didn't want to do the show anymore and would come up with absurd salary demands that were made to be declined. NBC called their bluff every year and kept sinking more and more money into the show. The network barely put money into anything else in prime time, during which time The Apprentice became a breakout hit in lieu of anything else. No one watched the early years of The Office in first run.

Desperate Networks by Bill Carter covers a really fascinating time in television, that is, the years between NBC losing and regaining the NFL.

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Someone was going to buy The Apprentice because the guy who really did the show had changed television forever with Survivor. NBC was the most desperate though and paid the most money but it isn't like another network wouldn't have jumped on for it.

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