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Just like we drew it up at the start of the day.

Split the DH.

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You can't trade this kid.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
You can't trade this kid.


sure you can

You are caught in the euphoria but think about his very best case scenario and whether you wouldn't trade that for a good return.

I wouldn't give him for a rental like Escobar. I might give him Frazier straight up.

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I was in the beautiful hamlet of Panther Pisla last night so I saw none of the game. Was Lopez that bad. His stat line looks fine.

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I was in the beautiful hamlet of Panther Pisla last night so I saw none of the game. Was Lopez that bad. His stat line looks fine.


He is who he is. Gave up a couple runs in 3 innings. He wasn't disastrous.

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good dolphin wrote:
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You can't trade this kid.


sure you can

You are caught in the euphoria but think about his very best case scenario and whether you wouldn't trade that for a good return.

I wouldn't give him for a rental like Escobar. I might give him Frazier straight up.



Give away LH Power, no thanks. Figure out another package to get a 2B, or talk to Moncada about going back there.


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good dolphin wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
You can't trade this kid.


sure you can

You are caught in the euphoria but think about his very best case scenario and whether you wouldn't trade that for a good return.

I wouldn't give him for a rental like Escobar. I might give him Frazier straight up.



Give away LH Power, no thanks. Figure out another package to get a 2B, or talk to Moncada about going back there.

Moncada to 2B seems like the easy call IMO. We have guys who can play 3rd and be a good bat in the line-up while doing it.

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Just like we drew it up at the start of the day.

Split the DH.



Lost the one we should have won, won the one we should have lost. It's a funny game.

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I was in the beautiful hamlet of Panther Pisla last night so I saw none of the game. Was Lopez that bad. His stat line looks fine.

He's gonna start sucking consistently sooner or later.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Just like we drew it up at the start of the day.

Split the DH.



Lost the one we should have won, won the one we should have lost. It's a funny game.

if the wind wasn't blowing out to right, Sox win them both on walk offs. Vaughn just missed that one

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good dolphin wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
You can't trade this kid.


sure you can

You are caught in the euphoria but think about his very best case scenario and whether you wouldn't trade that for a good return.

I wouldn't give him for a rental like Escobar. I might give him Frazier straight up.

I might be interested in a catcher but other than that I'm good on position players. Everyone loves to hate Leury but he fills in pretty well, and really if Jake Burger is for real they have to get him into the lineup somehow.

Trade for relievers. That's what they need.

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The Great Northern wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
You can't trade this kid.


sure you can

You are caught in the euphoria but think about his very best case scenario and whether you wouldn't trade that for a good return.

I wouldn't give him for a rental like Escobar. I might give him Frazier straight up.

I might be interested in a catcher but other than that I'm good on position players. Everyone loves to hate Leury but he fills in pretty well, and really if Jake Burger is for real they have to get him into the lineup somehow.

Trade for relievers. That's what they need.

Sox don't even need a catcher. Grandal has been spotted on this homestand doing workouts with the team so he'll be back before the games that really count.

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thomas wrote:
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I was in the beautiful hamlet of Panther Pisla last night so I saw none of the game. Was Lopez that bad. His stat line looks fine.

He's gonna start sucking consistently sooner or later.


I would love it if he could be moved for something like Escobar.

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Sox don't even need a catcher. Grandal has been spotted on this homestand doing workouts with the team so he'll be back before the games that really count.

I've got a little bit of durability concerns and even then I've kind of had it with Zack Collins. If Yermin Mercedes could learn to catch that would be great, he's tearing the cover off the ball at Charlotte.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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You're gonna have to trade somebody, especially if Colas comes and is anything close to advertised. Sheets does have a gorgeous swing though. He looked like Billy Williams driving that one out last night.

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You're gonna have to trade somebody, especially if Colas comes and is anything close to advertised. Sheets does have a gorgeous swing though. He looked like Billy Williams driving that one out last night.


Who knows what Colas will be. The Cespedes brother we have in the minors has a .300 OBP in Single A. What's nice about Sheets is that he's a lefty.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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You're gonna have to trade somebody, especially if Colas comes and is anything close to advertised. Sheets does have a gorgeous swing though. He looked like Billy Williams driving that one out last night.


Who knows what Colas will be. The Cespedes brother we have in the minors has a .300 OBP in Single A. What's nice about Sheets is that he's a lefty.



True. Cespedes doesn't look too good.

And you don't want to get in a situation where you brand a guy as "not part of your core" and he turns up as an All-Star for the Oakland Athletics.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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You can't trade this kid.



You're gonna have to trade somebody, especially if Colas comes and is anything close to advertised. Sheets does have a gorgeous swing though. He looked like Billy Williams driving that one out last night.


Who knows what Colas will be. The Cespedes brother we have in the minors has a .300 OBP in Single A. What's nice about Sheets is that he's a lefty.



True. Cespedes doesn't look too good.

And you don't want to get in a situation where you brand a guy as "not part of your core" and he turns up as an All-Star for the Oakland Athletics.


Or the Blue Jays after many successful years in Oakland. That was a brutal trade. Chris Bassitt beats you in the playoffs, and makes an All-Star game. And I don't know if he was even an afterthought when that trade was made.

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Let the cream rise to the top and then sort it out. The White Sox have all this talent but no real way to spend it other than relief arms, which are volatile commodity that can be gold one month and dirt the next. The right move is to deal from the minors to acquire relief pitching and then reevaluate either this coming off-season or next season's deadline how they want to use the glut to solve some looming issues that might be coming for the starting rotation.

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True. Cespedes doesn't look too good.

At twenty-three neither did Gavin Sheets or Jake Burger. Let him come along at his own pace, no need to rush him up.

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I don't think they will move MLB arms for a rental, but would you be upset if they did that for Colas or Cespedes? Both are kind of lottery tickets at this point.

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I don't think they will move MLB arms for a rental, but would you be upset if they did that for Colas or Cespedes? Both are kind of lottery tickets at this point.

Cespedes isn't worth much currently and Colas won't officially in the Sox organisation until January 2022. It's obvious they have big plans for Colas, he's no less untouchable than Robert.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
I don't think they will move MLB arms for a rental, but would you be upset if they did that for Colas or Cespedes? Both are kind of lottery tickets at this point.


What are the chances the Sox get fucked selling a lottery ticket twice?

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I don't think they will move MLB arms for a rental, but would you be upset if they did that for Colas or Cespedes? Both are kind of lottery tickets at this point.



I think you have to be careful. Madrigal is your second baseman so you're really only getting Frazier for this year. You have to ask if that's a move that's necessary to win the World Series. Obviously, Frazier is an upgrade at second. But it's a funny game.

The 25 best players don't necessarily make the best team. These guys have been riding together and picking up the slack as guy after guy has gone down. I'd be really careful about who I added to the mix and how I went about tweaking this team.

Charles Johnson was "better" than Brook Fordyce but bringing him on was a mistake as far as I'm concerned.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
I don't think they will move MLB arms for a rental, but would you be upset if they did that for Colas or Cespedes? Both are kind of lottery tickets at this point.


What are the chances the Sox get fucked selling a lottery ticket twice?


The White Sox? Probably 100%. :lol:

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I don't think they will move MLB arms for a rental, but would you be upset if they did that for Colas or Cespedes? Both are kind of lottery tickets at this point.


What are the chances the Sox get fucked selling a lottery ticket twice?


The White Sox? Probably 100%. :lol:


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I don't want them to do something dumb like give up Crochet as part of a deal for Frazier.


I have no idea what Frazier will take to get. And while a bullpen arm would be nice I don't know who is vastly better than the internal options.

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