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 Post subject: Career as Cubs
PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:16 pm 
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Career as Cubs. No juicers Sosa, G Hill, RP

F McGriff 276 .361 .518 .879 130
D Fowler .261 .367 .427 .794 115
R Stephenson 336 408 .469 .877 129
M Alou 283 .353 .484 .837 116
G Matthews 266 .381 .435 .815 120
A Soriano 264 .317 .495 .812 110
L Durham 279 .362 .484 .846 128
J Cardenal 296 363 .424 .787 114
Kiki Cuyler325 .391 .485 .876 127
Rick Monday.270 .366 .460 .826 125
Kingman 278 .338 .569 .907 138
Jim Hickman 267 362 .467 .829 121
Cavarretta 292 .371 .416 .787 118
Hank Sauer 269 .348 .512 .860 126
A Ramirez 294 .356 .531 .887 126
Stan Hack 301 .394 .397 .791 119
Derrek Lee 298 .378 .524 .903 129
Buckner .300 .332 .439 .771 107
R Hornsby 350 .435 .604 1.039 161
B Nicholson 272 .368 .471 .840 136
B Madlock 336 .397 .475 .872 139
Gabby Hartnett 297 .370 .490 .860 126
Hack Wilson 322 .412 .590 1.002 155
Sandberg- 285 .344 .452 .796 115
Dawson- 285 .327 .507 .834 125
Santo- .279 .366 .472 .838 128
B Williams- .296 .364 .503 .867 135
E Banks- 274 .330 .500 .830 122
Grace- 308 .386 .445 .832. 122
Heyward- 247 .326 .382 .708 87
Baez 262 .303 .474 .777 108
Rizzo 272 .372 .489 .861 130
Bryant 279 .378 .508 .886 134
Contreras 260 .350 .460 .810 113
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 Post subject: Re: Career as Cubs
PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:20 pm 
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All this does is piss me off more that Wrigley had Bill Madlock traded because he thought that Madlock was uppity.

That is the trade which has pissed me off the most in the last 50 years in which I remember trades.

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 Post subject: Re: Career as Cubs
PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:33 pm 
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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
All this does is piss me off more that Wrigley had Bill Madlock traded because he thought that Madlock was uppity.

That is the trade which has pissed me off the most in the last 50 years in which I remember trades.

That trade made me despise the Cubs. Madlock was one of my favorite players. I couldn't have been happier when the We Are Family team won in my 79.

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 Post subject: Re: Career as Cubs
PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:50 pm 
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Heyward's OPS+ of 87 sticks out like a sore thumb. Just horrible.

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Jaw Breaker wrote:
Heyward's OPS+ of 87 sticks out like a sore thumb. Just horrible.

He's in Les' top 20 all-time greatest Cubs (including pitchers) as of a couple years ago. I wish I would have recorded it. I'm sure he'd deny saying it
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 Post subject: Re: Career as Cubs
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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
All this does is piss me off more that Wrigley had Bill Madlock traded because he thought that Madlock was uppity.

That is the trade which has pissed me off the most in the last 50 years in which I remember trades.


i think it was no secret that wrigley/holland/saltwell didn't want to pay north/madlock/thorton. there was a common denominator amongst those players.
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Jaw Breaker wrote:
Heyward's OPS+ of 87 sticks out like a sore thumb. Just horrible.


He's useless, worst contract in chicago sports history, iveseen people say he hasn't been right since getting beaten in the jaw.. that's nonsense, his best year was 2 years after he got beaned..he just sucks

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 Post subject: Re: Career as Cubs
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JH ops+ this year 62. The "Big Donkey" in epically bad year 2011 was 54.
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