Excellent doc. 4 part series. Catch it if you can. They're rebroadcasting it on ESPN this weekend in case you missed it.

holy shit i'm still paying ESPN $6/month for.... uhhh.. a few league cup games a year? Might as well watch this.

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It seems like those players feel they had a bigger impact nationally than they did. They described away trips like they were the Bulls. I liked those Mets but they hardly had that kind of Q rating.

Anyone who has paid attention to Dykstra subsequent to his career knows he's a scumbag. You knew Hernandez was a cokehead. You knew permed Gary Carter was Steve Stone level of arrogance. I didn't know about some of the others. Yale graduate Darling getting into a bar fight is kind of a laughable thought as is women lining up two at a time to be with Wally Backman, who, at his best, looked like Cliff Clavin.

Anyway, the character flaws that were overlooked when winning all seemed to catch up to them hard in later life. Those guys hurt a lot of people, which makes it difficult to watch and dismiss as boys will be boys.

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They remind me a lot of those early 90's Cowboys teams with all the bullshit they had going on.

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I've enjoyed it

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I assume half the team was.

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I read a good book a few years ago on the 86 Mets. Definitely crazy stuff going on and the comparision to the 90s Cowgirls is pretty close I think.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

I was just a teen in the 80s so I didn't have that 80s club experience. Was cocaine really that prevalent?

I remember seeing Doc's first start against the Cubs and him instantly being my favorite player.

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Cocaine was HUGE in the 80's!!!

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In EVERY sport. That's why a guy like LT gets an asterisk from me.

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The Cocaine/steroid combination was unbelievable to think about. No wonder so many of these guys are fucked up.

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Half the Major Leagues? I mean it was the 1980's...

Edit: I don't have Hawger on ignore, I just didn't read the whole thread before commenting.

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Cause tried and true
I see the light in you
Oh, can you dig in my soul?
Could you smell my whole...
life?--Gener and Deaner

I imagine that’s a deadly combination for you and your opponent. The only guy who could slow them down was their supplier.

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How about 1994 opening day when he gave up three homers to the immortal Tuffy Rhodes? (Who finished with 8 on the year.)

Speaking of nicknames, I remember people calling Gooden's curveball "Lord Charles" (instead of Uncle Charlie).

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First time I attended a Cubbie game I was on a rooftop by the firehouse and could hear Gooden's fastball popping the catcher's mitt. Like I was within 50 feet away.

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i thought it was fantastic. love that they included baba booey but since howard stern's boyfriend jimbel kimbel produced it, that's a given.

the soundtrack was great, too. opening each episode with tom waits' "clap hands", good stuff.

the MVP was keith hernandez's cat.

I enjoyed the follow-up at the end where they explained that Kevin Mitchell was eventually traded away because he was a bad influence on Doc and Strawberry. Mitchell's reaction to that was funny.

Even funnier was when it was revealed that he didn't even drink.

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or cut the head off a cat

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typical "blame the black guy" from cashen. he really fucked that team over after they won him a world series. jackass.

shame he doesn't drink because after watching that, he's the type of person i'd love to have a beer with.

I thought Mitchell was my member of the team that was interviewed. Hernandez is a douche, and his fucking cat too. I though Straw and Doc seemed like decent dudes reflecting back on how stupid they were. Mookie seemed cool. Dykstra was funny, that guy seems pretty fucked up.