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"All Nightmare Long" is the first song I've heard from them that successfully combines the speed of their old thrash with the groove that they were attempting in their more recent work.

Overall the album is an admirable effort with it's share of solid tracks, but if I really want what they're trying to give me with this record, I'll just crank "Creeping Death" at 11.

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Cyanide has that "Eye Of the Beholder" vibe to it, but I like it better.

On subsequent listens, I really like "All Nightmare Long" even more. I also like "Unforgiven III" more than I did the first time around.

I hear a lot of people comparing "My Apocalypse" to Anthrx's "Spreading the Disease". To me it sounds more Dave Mustaine-ish... "Rust In Piece" era.

DM is definitely more enjoyable in repeated listens. I'm enjoying it.

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I think I'll just dig up my Kill Em All LP and give it a listen tonight and save the 9.99


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I'll be heading out to the Moline show in November and will probably be forced to hear Cyanide, but I can deal with the remaining songs from the album. Overall, I would say a definite improvement over their previous efforts. Which seems to be the consensus.


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Overall, I would say a definite improvement over their previous efforts. Which seems to be the consensus.



Isn't the consensus also that they had nowhere to go but up from thier 2 or 3 previous records?

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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
Overall, I would say a definite improvement over their previous efforts. Which seems to be the consensus.



Isn't the consensus also that they had nowhere to go but up from thier 2 or 3 previous records?


Well, they COULD have said a big "Fuck You" to everyone and just stuck with what their lame musical experiments.


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It's hard to rail on Load and Re-load too much... If the band name wasn't Metallica, their pretty solid albums.

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Three stars out of five.

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Everyone but the most comical Metallica apologist can admit the metal veterans just haven't been what they used to be. The point where Metallica jumped the shark, though, is a lot harder to pin down for certain, mostly because there are so many points from which to choose. Take your pick: Maybe it was when Cliff Burton died; when the black album gave the band a taste of mainstream success; when the band chopped its hair; when it recorded with the San Francisco Symphony; when it dropped its metal roots for hard-rock bluster for the latter part of the '90s. Whatever the turning point was, the band stopped being Metallica and settled on merely being Metallica for a long, long time.

Teaming with producer Rick Rubin -- who already helped Johnny Cash and Neil Diamond get their careers back on track -- Death Magnetic is the closest thing we'll probably get from Metallica in the way of an apology for mucking things up so completely for the past decade. And even that implied apology is half-hearted: About midway, the rockers lay down the old-school feel and get back grinding at those boring hard-rock cliches that threatened to render it inconsequential in the past.

First the good: Rediscovering its British thrash roots and everything that comes with it, Metallica is once again a metal act for much of Death Magnetic. It brings everything that job description entails, from charging rhythms and furiously picked rhythm riffs to those outlandishly exaggerated solos upon which Kirk Hammett built his name. There's plenty of reason to bang your head until you get a nosebleed. "Death Magnetic" is the hardest, most pummeling cut to come from Metallica since the days when its video for "One" was making the rounds on Headbanger's Ball. Drummer Lars Ulrich pounds harder and faster than most thought he was able to anymore, while singer/guitarist James Hetfield growls his way through a vocal that's nothing but tar and asphalt. Hammett, for his part, keeps his pick work blindingly fast; it could be a forgotten track from Kill 'Em All sessions. "The End of the Line" crashes forward at thrash-metal tempos, held together by those grinding, muscle-bound riffs that were the act's lifeblood in the '80s, only to explode into a guitar solo that' s so over-the-top technical and fast-paced that Hammett's practically begging for his job as metal guitar god back. "That Was Just Your Life" and "All Nightmare Long" don't do much but rekindle the band's heavy-metal formula from its glory days, but at this point in the game, stagnation is better than that new-era crap, isn't it?

Now, the bad, and there's as much of it as the good. "The Day that Never Comes" is the sort of monster-ballad mush that splits the band's thunder with radio-friendly arena-rock segments. Of course, it's the album's lead single. "The Unforgiven III" is an unforgivable addition into the trio of songs that firmly reminds listeners of Metallica's days as hard-rockin' sensitive dudes, which, oddly, is exactly the opposite of what Rubin was hired to do. "Cyanide" is more of the same Load of monster-truck rally crap that Metallica's tried to shift onto its listeners for years now.

If we're going to congratulate Metallica for once again saddling up to ride the lightening, we also have to wonder why it ever got off in the first place. The grunge years and the alternative revolution were tough times for long-haired bands like Metallica. Perhaps they just adapted (poorly) to survive. Perhaps they, like everyone else in America, were caught up in the excitement as alt-rock changed the musical landscape. Now that metal once again reigns supreme in the loud music world, Metallica is there once again. Shouldn't we be wondering why it left in the first place, why it chose to opportunistically change direction with the wind and why we need to congratulate it simply because it's no longer failing? Wouldn't true Gods of Metal stuck to their guns through the lean years, and carried the torch when its flame was needed most? Instead, Metallica turned tail and ran, waiting for a new generation of metal types to make it safe and commercially viable for it to get back to its roots. For that, they'll always be unforgiven, at least by the devout who did stand true to the genre during its downfall.

There can't be a return to form if you never left it in the first place. For all the classic-Metallica bluster, Death Magnetic not so subtly reminds us of that. Let's not celebrate Metallica's rekindling of the metal fires, but celebrate the times in which it makes it so simple, so easy and so free from risk for Metallica to rekindle those fires. Metal fans, enjoy this while it lasts. If history's any teacher, Metallica will start flagging once the next musical trend beats metal back into the underground. Here's to hoping Metallica can stick around here for a while before finding bold new ways to repeatedly keep jumping the shark.

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Well, they COULD have said a big "Fuck You" to everyone and just stuck with what their lame musical experiments.


The Lars Ulrich Spoken Word Trilogy...


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Talk about overthinking something... Music is meant to be enjoyed, not broken down and evaluated to the finest detail.

The music is good. I'm enjoying the hell out of it. I think it's their best release since Puppets.

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Talk about overthinking something... Music is meant to be enjoyed, not broken down and evaluated to the finest detail.

The music is good. I'm enjoying the hell out of it. I think it's their best release since Puppets.


Let's not get crazy, good sir. The Black Album was better than this. But still a good album.


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I'll be heading out to the Moline show in November


Cool...I'll be there with my drunk brother...


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Talk about overthinking something... Music is meant to be enjoyed, not broken down and evaluated to the finest detail.

The music is good. I'm enjoying the hell out of it. I think it's their best release since Puppets.


again, i'm completely blown away by the fact that you are all of a couple of years older than me.
but....
i think back to 6th grade vs. 8th grade, and there was a clear difference between what was listened to ("rock music") historically in only 2 years.
as a 6th grader i get masters of puppets and you get van halen 1984. huge difference.

you, wdelany, are a young...old soul. whereas i am an old, young soul.....as it relates to those of us coming into our teens mid 80s.

lady justice is offended at the bold above.
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Justice was the third album album in a row of the same formula. I remember anxiously buying it when it came out. It has it's good moments (Frayed Ends, Dyer's Eve, One, blackened) but overall, it just falls a little short... the horrible uadio quality deosn't help it's case either.

I don't hate it, but it's just not up there in my team photo.

We now need to turn the discussion over the these "remixes" from Guitar Hero where the audio quality is said to be superior. If anyone has a source, kindly PM me... as I instantly noticed the clipping on the CD I purchased. I can get past it, but would like a better sounding copy if available.

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I did not purchase the CD and instead went the iTunes route. No clicking there.


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I used Azureus and downloaded the GHIII version and the sound quality is dramatically improved. The CD version you can tell has quite a bit of clipping on the guitar tracks... it's more prominent at different times. The other improvement is Trujillo's bass tracks are a little more present... in a good way.

Sorry, Doug, but after another listen this morning, I think this is a far superior effort than Justice... Lady Justice has been raped...

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Delaney,

I'm surprised with how much you are falling in love with this album as time goes on. I still don't think that this is anything close to Justice or Puppets, but I would rank this album along the same lines now as the Black Album.


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i'll just chalk that justice comment up to you being an old man wd. :P

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Last year Iron Maiden blessed us with a solid new effort. This year Metallica. Who's gonna be the big return for 2009?

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Last year Iron Maiden blessed us with a solid new effort. This year Metallica. Who's gonna be the big return for 2009?


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well, based on your recent history....

i'm leaning towards AC/DC or someone like Metal Church? Maybe a new Venom or Savatage album?
oh! I know...The Scorpions!!!!
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Last year Iron Maiden blessed us with a solid new effort. This year Metallica. Who's gonna be the big return for 2009?


Man 'o War :wink:

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Man-o-war... LOL...

What I'd love is for Dave Mustaine to follow suit and find has inner aggression again.

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what?

the system has failed and united abominations were quite aggressive.

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Really?

He lost me with Risk and TWNAH... the big "Behind the Music" special where TWNAH was supposed to be a return... yeah, it was a return to Youthanasia... yawn.

I'll have to give those a listen.

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Justice was the third album album in a row of the same formula. I remember anxiously buying it when it came out. It has it's good moments (Frayed Ends, Dyer's Eve, One, blackened) but overall, it just falls a little short... the horrible uadio quality deosn't help it's case either.

I don't hate it, but it's just not up there in my team photo.

We now need to turn the discussion over the these "remixes" from Guitar Hero where the audio quality is said to be superior. If anyone has a source, kindly PM me... as I instantly noticed the clipping on the CD I purchased. I can get past it, but would like a better sounding copy if available.


I love AJFA, but I agree it would have been nice if they actually plugged Newsted's bass in. This album definitely needs to be remastered. But not the fucked up way Mustaine and Ozzy remaster shit. James, Lars, Kirk, and Jason, and a modern kick ass production job.

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Anyone gonna be in Moline this Saturday for the show?


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Anyone gonna be in Moline this Saturday for the show?


I just remember this morning that I have tickets for that show...so yeah, I'll be there...


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Anyone gonna be in Moline this Saturday for the show?


I just remember this morning that I have tickets for that show...so yeah, I'll be there...


I will be way up in the 300 level. Look for the screaming skinny kid running around.


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