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Oh yeah. Completely forgot about that guy. His wife was a fuckin' whale.

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the wife is still awaiting trial for her part. I think it's now scheduled for January 2022.

Yep, that's our legal system :lol:

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the wife is still awaiting trial for her part. I think it's now scheduled for January 2022.

Yep, that's our legal system :lol:

She's just roaming around free to steal and eat Rocky Road?

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worked with a younger guy that was basically a Police fan boy and had met that guy at some summer camp or some shit. He was broiling when the story was that dude may have been killed and then once the truth came out that the guy was a scumbag, he refused to hear anything about it from anyone.

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worked with a younger guy that was basically a Police fan boy and had met that guy at some summer camp or some shit. He was broiling when the story was that dude may have been killed and then once the truth came out that the guy was a scumbag, he refused to hear anything about it from anyone.

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Thanks for the heads up. I love a new podcast even though I know the whole story.

This has to be a Dateline at some point.

I'm midway through ep2.

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I was not even that close to the area but at work they basically were saying to shelter in place that morning.

I was about 20 miles from there.

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I was not even that close to the area but at work they basically were saying to shelter in place that morning.

I was about 20 miles from there.

There was a day a few days after the murder when someone (who turned out to be a special person) said that they saw suspects with weapons leaving Fratellos on 12 and 120 heading south into a cornfield (where woodmans is now). The man hunt was on. My wife and I were listening on my scanner. People in my neighborhood called the cops reporting people trying to enter their homes. At one point, we had a police helicopter maybe 30 feet over our house with a spotlight on our yard. It was kind of freaky. But it was all bullshit.

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I remember that night quite well, the helicopters overhead and sirens as well as the news reports. If I recall, it was a bogus claim from some ditz that led to the manhunt.

I also remember anecdotal conversation from some local news chopper pilots that said that even they noticed it was a weird scene in that there was only one set of tire tracks visible from above.

I can hear the guy from Dateline now..."It was suicide...or waaaas it?"


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My wife and I were listening on my scanner.

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This Fox Lake podcast got a lot of cooperation from local LE up there. Hopefully it's not a 100% whitewash of the departments to solely blame GI Joe and Cop Wife. Based on the pedigree of the podcasters (Dr Death, the original Tiger King pod and that creepy Florida dentist family who offed their ex-son-in-law to resolve a custody dispute), it should be a good listen with a mostly legit investigation.


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This was real close to me. I didn't know the guy, but many people I do know liked and respected him. Turns out, he was a fraud....and a pretty tortured soul because of it.
In the grand scheme of things the money that was embezzled wasn't overly significant but that's not stopping them from trying to bury the wife. Seems a bit over-the-top, but hey....crime is crime.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I was not even that close to the area but at work they basically were saying to shelter in place that morning.

I was about 20 miles from there.

There was a day a few days after the murder when someone (who turned out to be a special person) said that they saw suspects with weapons leaving Fratellos on 12 and 120 heading south into a cornfield (where woodmans is now). The man hunt was on. My wife and I were listening on my scanner. People in my neighborhood called the cops reporting people trying to enter their homes. At one point, we had a police helicopter maybe 30 feet over our house with a spotlight on our yard. It was kind of freaky. But it was all bullshit.

I would have thought such a strident Patriot and 2A guy would have been out there with his guns. We were wrong about that.


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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I was not even that close to the area but at work they basically were saying to shelter in place that morning.

I was about 20 miles from there.

There was a day a few days after the murder when someone (who turned out to be a special person) said that they saw suspects with weapons leaving Fratellos on 12 and 120 heading south into a cornfield (where woodmans is now). The man hunt was on. My wife and I were listening on my scanner. People in my neighborhood called the cops reporting people trying to enter their homes. At one point, we had a police helicopter maybe 30 feet over our house with a spotlight on our yard. It was kind of freaky. But it was all bullshit.

I would have thought such a strident Patriot and 2A guy would have been out there with his guns. We were wrong about that.

You lost me. I should have been running around outside in the dark while the cops were looking for armed suspects running around in the dark because of the constitution?

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There was a cop killer on the loose in your backyard. Your plan of action was to sit and listen to your scanner? So much for all your big talk.


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There was a cop killer on the loose in your backyard. Your plan of action was to sit and listen to your scanner? So much for all your big talk.

My other option being....?

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Darkside wrote:
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There was a cop killer on the loose in your backyard. Your plan of action was to sit and listen to your scanner? So much for all your big talk.

My other option being....?

Defend your palace tough guy. Show us why you have that arsenal.


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There was a cop killer on the loose in your backyard. Your plan of action was to sit and listen to your scanner? So much for all your big talk.

My other option being....?

Defend your palace tough guy. Show us why you have that arsenal.

So... what are you saying I should have been doing? Patrolling the yard with my gun? That's not protecting a house. That's trying to get shot.
Do you ever know what you're talking about?

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Darkside wrote:
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There was a cop killer on the loose in your backyard. Your plan of action was to sit and listen to your scanner? So much for all your big talk.

My other option being....?

Defend your palace tough guy. Show us why you have that arsenal.

So... what are you saying I should have been doing? Patrolling the yard with my gun? That's not protecting a house. That's trying to get shot.
Do you ever know what you're talking about?

Yes. I’m talking about you not having integrity and being the typical “run your mouth then cower” 2A type.


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There was a cop killer on the loose in your backyard. Your plan of action was to sit and listen to your scanner? So much for all your big talk.

My other option being....?

Defend your palace tough guy. Show us why you have that arsenal.

So... what are you saying I should have been doing? Patrolling the yard with my gun? That's not protecting a house. That's trying to get shot.
Do you ever know what you're talking about?

Yes. I’m talking about you not having integrity and being the typical “run your mouth then cower” 2A type.

Who was cowering? You're suggesting that as someone who owns a gun that I should have been running around the neighborhood while cops pursued an armed suspect who they didn't have a solid description of and were looking to avenge a fallen comrade?

Something that people like you will never ever understand about people like me... real true 2a believers and gun owners will always exhibit extreme restraint in how they handle themselves in situations in which a firearm is a costar. You don't know any better because you chose a different lifestyle, and that's fine. I'll never degrade you for choosing to not own a gun. That's your call and it's respected. I operate well within my rights and within the parameters of the law as it is written. That's smart.

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This shit is spilling over into every thread. Not gonna lie, I love an engaged DS.

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This was real close to me. I didn't know the guy, but many people I do know liked and respected him. Turns out, he was a fraud....and a pretty tortured soul because of it.
In the grand scheme of things the money that was embezzled wasn't overly significant but that's not stopping them from trying to bury the wife. Seems a bit over-the-top, but hey....crime is crime.

Who was the poster from this board that knew the guy and was sure he was legit? At least he did for a while and then took offense at posts disparaging the cop.

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This shit is spilling over into every thread. Not gonna lie, I love an engaged DS.

Yeah DS is a solid read. The shots at Seacrest are just a bonus :D

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This was real close to me. I didn't know the guy, but many people I do know liked and respected him. Turns out, he was a fraud....and a pretty tortured soul because of it.
In the grand scheme of things the money that was embezzled wasn't overly significant but that's not stopping them from trying to bury the wife. Seems a bit over-the-top, but hey....crime is crime.

Who was the poster from this board that knew the guy and was sure he was legit? At least he did for a while and then took offense at posts disparaging the cop.

That was me, but I did not say I knew him. I had said I knew good people that knew him. I also acknowledged being wrong.

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2 episodes in and it's a solid podcast so far.

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Yes, the first two episodes are very good.

They touched on this, but spent more time touching on how much the other police staff hated him He was about as well-known and well-liked as any cop in the area I've ever encountered. Obviously the dude was a fraud, but the incident where he died....people were hurt and scared. I don't think he had any concept of what a disaster his suicide drew up. It's pretty sad and stupid.

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This was real close to me. I didn't know the guy, but many people I do know liked and respected him. Turns out, he was a fraud....and a pretty tortured soul because of it.
In the grand scheme of things the money that was embezzled wasn't overly significant but that's not stopping them from trying to bury the wife. Seems a bit over-the-top, but hey....crime is crime.

Who was the poster from this board that knew the guy and was sure he was legit? At least he did for a while and then took offense at posts disparaging the cop.

That was me, but I did not say I knew him. I had said I knew good people that knew him. I also acknowledged being wrong.

My apologies...clearly my memory was a bit fuzzy on that.

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