You’re right. Why are they not hunting down Allen. There had to be two sides to these emails.

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If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

The homphobic email, particularly about Goodell, is what got Gruden put out to pasture.

The racist stuff was blowing over.

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They will get Allen. He's got bigger problems than Gruden.

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The only strange thing is he wasn’t an employee.

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If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

I'm not so sure he's going to profit from it anytime soon outside of his settlement. I find it interesting that the NFL is investigating the WFT, and out of 650k emails, the NFL decided to focus on 100 emails from a guy who has never been a member of the organization. Nothing from the Snyders? Nothing from any other WFT employee?

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Nas: Blago, who has single handedly destroyed CFMB?

Blago: https://youtube.com/shorts/Lftdxd-YXt8?feature=share

Mind you own damn business! -VP Walz

of course not and the punishment is entirely appropriate

Leaks in your organization is a separate matter.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Don't talk shit about Roger Goodell is the lesson here.

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Still waiting for you to post one that is.

Or your GED.

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Let's be honest...the feds are coming the servers for keyword searches. Jay Gruden was a coach there. Gruden being the keyword. And he was dumb enough to email Bruce Allen at work.

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I've heard Ditka described those who would know in the exact same terms and worse. And the NFL's hiring history suggests that it's pretty widespread.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

That's not shocking...especially given Ditka's age and era. Plus we all knew he was a right wing lunatic years ago.

I'm not trying to excuse anything. The era's are what they are. Can't go back and rewrite history. But there's nothing wrong with the current era being held to a higher standard than those in the past.

The excuses of it being "locker room talk, etc" are just sad and pathetic at this point. But also to be expected from many.

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Much more honorable than what goes on in your home.

The moral authority has spoken.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Gruden won't get a job in football again...unless he winds up as a writer somewhere (but writing really isn't his strong suit, obviously).

The rest of Bernstein's little spiel is just whiny drivel.

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Agreed. But when you get a Joe Judge, Nick Sirianni or Kliff Kingsbury getting hc jobs with limited coaching experience and no playing experience, not to mention hapless general managers it's impossible not to look at the league with a skeptical eye.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

I think he could find a college job in a couple of years if he wanted to. I think that it all comes down to the language of his settlement. His NFL coaching career is definitely over.

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Nas: Blago, who has single handedly destroyed CFMB?

Blago: https://youtube.com/shorts/Lftdxd-YXt8?feature=share

Mind you own damn business! -VP Walz

Liberty University, come on down!

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

THERE’S uncle Crest to tell him his 7 pages of racism aren’t exactly that! We knew we could count on you.

This is pretty fair. I think most of us have grown up and seen this transition first hand. And what I mean by that, is that my parents (around 70) still hold thoughts and say things akin to what Gruden wrote. I think most of us probably used the term burrito quite a bit in our younger years. But then with our children you never hear any such slights towards other races and orientations. In fact their classmates were sufficiently diverse that they do not even think twice about mixing with other races.

I wish we could stop trying to erase history. Let’s use it as a learning lesson. Columbus is a perfect example. Imperialism and conquering was a way of life in his day. We cannot judge what he did by today’s standards. We have to recognize crossing the ocean was a really big deal back then. Everything that happened after was just what explorers did.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Keep at it Grand Wizard.

Yeah, but that's not limited to the NFL...it's the way hiring is done in most businesses. People tend to hire referrals from colleagues or friends, or people they know, rather than start with a blank slate and dispassionately hire an unknown, even if that would mean getting a potentially better employee.

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Half the SEC would hire him in December if he wanted to.

USC is probably already discussing how long they have to wait to try.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Roll Damn Tide.

Considering the racist (African-American males are wang whippers, African-American females are wildebeests), sexist (I can't concentrate on what she's saying because of her giant boobies), and homophobic (Count Fagula) things Bernstein has said over the years you would think he would keep his mouth shut and hope no one decides to speak to his manager, sponsors, etc.

He's such a virtue signaling fraud.

Fair. Kingsbury did have 11 years combined as an assistant under the Belichick tree, and he was the coach at Texas Tech when Mahomes was there to some degree of success, for a middling program in the Big 12. Judge and Sirianni were far more unknown quantities when they got hired.

I think it's sad when some really good minority coaches get a shot, but then don't actually get the shot to succeed from owners who are in a win now mode. I think of guys with longevity like Lovie Smith, Mike Tomlin, Herm Edwards, Marvin Lewis, all who had varying degrees of success, but had the backing to succeed.

Guys like Anthony Lynn and Steve Wilks were given just enough rope to hang themselves (no pun intended), but that speaks to a larger problem in the league.

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The SEC was the first conference to come to mind.

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Let the record show....
Gruden deserved to get fired / forced to resign. Period.
WFR's comments earlier in the thread were racist and stupid...but not surprising.

That's all I have to say about that.

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I generally agree with most of this. Even before the shift, I think most of us knew that we shouldn't share certain things in work emails. Even if we were joking.

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Nas: Blago, who has single handedly destroyed CFMB?

Blago: https://youtube.com/shorts/Lftdxd-YXt8?feature=share

Mind you own damn business! -VP Walz

How do you live on $11/hour?

No one has brought up the hypocrisy angle yet. Thank you for bringing this to everyone's attention because MANY have not considered this.

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