If someone's objectively bad/horrible conduct is now viewed in a new light because this person criticized Trump, probably because said person knows grandstanding on Trump will score some cultural points, then the person changing their views is a dumbass. I think that's a rule we should all be able to agree with.

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He was attempting to make amends before Trump. The media began to soften on him because he endorsed Obama in 2008.

I'm confident that Powell knew that he was being used. Not supporting war made you unpatriotic back then. I don't think he or any politician understood what their decisions would create. IF Powell did the right thing, he probably would have been fired and blamed for every middle east atrocity that happened after then. Great leaders aren't afraid to make unpopular decisions. W Bush was the ultimate decider, but Powell proved that he wasn't a great leader.

I don't think that erases all of the positive things he did in his life. Most people would be considered a monster if we were judged on the worst thing we had done in our lives.

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No it isn't.

Yes it is. The people that generate the reports report to the President and the President only. He determines the information which is to be disseminated

Not if he is unaware of available counterintelligence. Which was the case here

This is simply the talking point of a right wing hack.

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On changing your POV on someone just because they criticized Trump, that comment was more general then just about Powell.

On being judged by the worst thing you've done, I think you have to have a sliding scale here. Cheating on someone vs facilitating countless deaths have to be judged differently.

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I don't disagree.

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It absolutely makes you a dumb ass to change your opinion of someone because they criticize your chosen politician (DRUMPF!!!), but it goes on here every day. They can drone on and on, but MAGA isn’t a political movement; it’s a cult.

Mountains of evidence to support this assertion. Starting with Comey.

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?? not with iraq. did powell object to invading the taliban's afghanistan? by you saying this, this tells me that even you believed a connection between bin-laden and saddam.

powell was fully briefed, as he had to sell this at the UN. he was fighting the usa's corner and it never occurred to him that he was given dubious evidence at best and grade school assessments at worst as he made his argument at the UN. he was smarter than that.

personally, i believe that powell knew this was all dubious. he was a good soldier, a professional soldier. he did his 'duty'. as far as ambition, he may have reckoned that as an african-american, secretary of state was his glass ceiling and going along with the WMD story could 'win' him a VP spot down the road from the rep. party. that is all speculation. i lean that way because i believe he was smarter than what he portrayed for the neo-cons and their win-at-call-costs democratic peace theory.

Powell was instructed to make the sell to the UN regarding Hussein and WMDs. He made the sell based upon suspect intelligence provided to him by Bush. He didn't create the faulty intelligence. Nor did he make the decision to go with the faulty intelligence. Bush did. Bush (like all Presidents) was provided with all sorts of intelligence regarding WMDs and Iraq. He chose to go with the intelligence which made it appear as if Saddam was producing nukes. That isn't on Colin Powell. Its on Bush. Powell doesn't make the call on that. Bush does.

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If memory serves correctly Powell resigned as Secretary of State about a year or so after being misled by the Bush Administration regarding Iraq and its alleged Nuclear Weapons program. Doesn't that suggest that he had some objections to being misled? Just Asking A Question.

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The polls from 1996:

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

The idea of you voting for a black man for President is Carlin level comedy.

Well I’ve already done it twice.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

I think Powell running in '96 in the wake of the O.J. trial is all the more reason why he would have won. People wanted to feel good about themselves without having to vote for, you know, Jesse Jackson. Bill Clinton wasn't a juggernaut, Bob Dole just sucked.

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Clinton pushed through entitlement cuts, ahem, reform before the election just to kneecap Dole. He would have said, and done anything to win. It would have been tough to keep up the "first black President" bullshit though if he ran against Powell.

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Yeah, 1996 was the "anything you can do, I can do better" routine, but instead of dancing, it was being mad at black people. I still remember Bob Dole being like "if elected president, I will end the IRS!" and even as a nine-year-old who didn't know his ass from any number of holes in the ground, I could tell he was really desperate for something to work with there. Poor guy. At least he got his dick working again a few years later.

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Dole gladly took one for the team in that election. Winning the republican nomination was a nice retirement gift.

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Yes. He was the tallest midget that season. But fairly principled, unlike MANY today.

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Clinton- welfare reform, free trade, and balanced budget by the end. We could do a lot worse…..

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If he never tried healthcare and kept his wife in place he’d be legendary.

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He had a wife and a girlfriend. What’s wrong with that?

It’s pretty cool- he got a Huma from one, and his wife got a Huma herself.

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