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 Post subject: Re: Dave Chapelle
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censoring art is about as right wing as you can get


It's not just art though. Our country wants to censor anything and everyone who pisses us off. That being said, I have no issue with them making demands to Netflix. Companies use leverage to extract things from workers all the time.


If you work for a tobacco company and think it knowingly kills people, the protest is to quit. Anything less would force you to be a hypocrite.

I understand it is more global than art, but art is important. This certainly alters the art that netflix will support and even worse, the art that someone without the wherewithal will produce.

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censoring art is about as right wing as you can get


It's not just art though. Our country wants to censor anything and everyone who pisses us off. That being said, I have no issue with them making demands to Netflix. Companies use leverage to extract things from workers all the time.


If you work for a tobacco company and think it knowingly kills people, the protest is to quit. Anything less would force you to be a hypocrite.

I understand it is more global than art, but art is important. This certainly alters the art that netflix will support and even worse, the art that someone without the wherewithal will produce.


The art will be fine. I grew up watching bloodless westerns and laughing at cartoons with questionable imagery and content. Now we have The Squid Games that are filled with blood and kids are still laughing at cartoons even though they aren't "questionable".

My favorite sitcom from about the age of 9 until the age of 15 was Married with Children. Christian Conservatives did everything possible to get the show removed from television. They managed to get a few wins. It didn't ruin the art, but now you can't slap your secretary on the ass or tell your colleagues what you would like to do on their breasts. I can however see sexual content on network television that was reserved for HBO when I was a kid

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any environment in which the artist has to question whether he should make the art because of political backlash damages us all

its no different than the taliban blowing up the buddhas

now, the marketplace may find no value for the art but an artist has to have almost unfettered freedom to create

This defines being liberal, which the protestors would most definitely call themselves

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Nas wrote:
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censoring art is about as right wing as you can get


It's not just art though. Our country wants to censor anything and everyone who pisses us off. That being said, I have no issue with them making demands to Netflix. Companies use leverage to extract things from workers all the time.


If you work for a tobacco company and think it knowingly kills people, the protest is to quit. Anything less would force you to be a hypocrite.

I understand it is more global than art, but art is important. This certainly alters the art that netflix will support and even worse, the art that someone without the wherewithal will produce.


The art will be fine. I grew up watching bloodless westerns and laughing at cartoons with questionable imagery and content. Now we have The Squid Games that are filled with blood and kids are still laughing at cartoons even though they aren't "questionable".

My favorite sitcom from about the age of 9 until the age of 15 was Married with Children. Christian Conservatives did everything possible to get the show removed from television. They managed to get a few wins. It didn't ruin the art, but now you can't slap your secretary on the ass or tell your colleagues what you would like to do on their breasts. I can however see sexual content on network television that was reserved for HBO when I was a kid

That's what is going to be interesting about this Netflix walkout. The CEO has mostly said "Deal with it" to the protestors. Other executives at other content producers have to be watching to see if we've reached a point where it isn't a fireable offense to get people mad.

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Nas wrote:
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censoring art is about as right wing as you can get


It's not just art though. Our country wants to censor anything and everyone who pisses us off. That being said, I have no issue with them making demands to Netflix. Companies use leverage to extract things from workers all the time.


If you work for a tobacco company and think it knowingly kills people, the protest is to quit. Anything less would force you to be a hypocrite.

I understand it is more global than art, but art is important. This certainly alters the art that netflix will support and even worse, the art that someone without the wherewithal will produce.


The art will be fine. I grew up watching bloodless westerns and laughing at cartoons with questionable imagery and content. Now we have The Squid Games that are filled with blood and kids are still laughing at cartoons even though they aren't "questionable".

My favorite sitcom from about the age of 9 until the age of 15 was Married with Children. Christian Conservatives did everything possible to get the show removed from television. They managed to get a few wins. It didn't ruin the art, but now you can't slap your secretary on the ass or tell your colleagues what you would like to do on their breasts. I can however see sexual content on network television that was reserved for HBO when I was a kid

That's what is going to be interesting about this Netflix walkout. The CEO has mostly said "Deal with it" to the protestors. Other executives at other content producers have to be watching to see if we've reached a point where it isn't a fireable offense to get people mad.



There aren't truly any ways these couple dozen employees can harm Netflix. They aren't going to cancel their service and pay for Hulu because it is an inferior product. They aren't going to pay for cable because it costs too much. The best they'll get is a few LGBTQ movies and shows on Netflix. That's still a win for the company.

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Netflix dealt with a similar employee walkout when it was indicted for promoting child porn.

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The CEO has already backtracked on his initial stance. This is brown shirt censorship that gets old episodes disappeared. And this is Dave Fucking Chapelle they are protesting. Imagine a guy without his money or status saying something that didn't meet the ever changing standard. He or she would be ruined.

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There aren't truly any ways these couple dozen employees can harm Netflix. They aren't going to cancel their service and pay for Hulu because it is an inferior product. They aren't going to pay for cable because it costs too much. The best they'll get is a few LGBTQ movies and shows on Netflix. That's still a win for the company.
The CEO seems to be standing up to them. At other places, the special probably would have been pulled with an apology.

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Isn't some of this on the LGBTQX themseves as well? If you're a member of that community and you're opting to turn on a Chapelle shows, the odds are he might say something that "offends" you.

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Isn't some of this on the LGBTQX themseves as well? If you're a member of that community and you're opting to turn on a Chapelle shows, the odds are he might say something that "offends" you.


They demand everything be sanitized to not offend them.

And it's not all of them. It's the ones that are completely brainwashed morons. They were coddled and spoon-fed this "special" bullshit their entire lives. None of them ever had to actually learn how to be tough or defend themselves. It's one thing to protect your kids from stuff. It's borderline criminal to shelter them to the point that they expect the general public to bend over backwards to meet their needs. That's what they want. They want everyone else to bend over backwards to make them happy.

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They want everyone else to bend over backwards to make them happy.
That's what I mean. Some of this is on them.

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They want everyone else to bend over backwards to make them happy.
That's what I mean. Some of this is on them.


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I'm not going to say all. They should be allowed to dress how they want and fuck whomever they want without backlash.

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I'm not going to say all. They should be allowed to dress how they want and fuck whomever they want without backlash.


Why should they not face backlash for an action of their own choice?

While I personally don't give a shit about what they choose to do, be it dress like the opposite gender or mutilate their organs to match what they think they are, there are those that will shit all over them for it.

I'm also not saying that someone that attacks someone because of a choice they make doesn't deserve their own repercussions, because they do.

I guess at the end of the day, my feeling is that people should be responsible for their own actions and know how to stand up for themselves instead of needing to be coddled at every turn.

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I'm not going to say all. They should be allowed to dress how they want and fuck whomever they want without backlash.


Why should they not face backlash for an action of their own choice?

While I personally don't give a shit about what they choose to do, be it dress like the opposite gender or mutilate their organs to match what they think they are, there are those that will shit all over them for it.

I'm also not saying that someone that attacks someone because of a choice they make doesn't deserve their own repercussions, because they do.

I guess at the end of the day, my feeling is that people should be responsible for their own actions and know how to stand up for themselves instead of needing to be coddled at every turn.

It seems to me a large portion of our society expects this in today's world.

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I'm not going to say all. They should be allowed to dress how they want and fuck whomever they want without backlash.


Why should they not face backlash for an action of their own choice?

While I personally don't give a shit about what they choose to do, be it dress like the opposite gender or mutilate their organs to match what they think they are, there are those that will shit all over them for it.

I'm also not saying that someone that attacks someone because of a choice they make doesn't deserve their own repercussions, because they do.

I guess at the end of the day, my feeling is that people should be responsible for their own actions and know how to stand up for themselves instead of needing to be coddled at every turn.

It seems to me a large portion of our society expects this in today's world.


Yeah, fuck that.

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I don't know that it's "being coddled" to expect to not be harassed or discriminated against, but yeah people do have to learn to deal with people not liking them.

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I don't know that it's "being coddled" to expect to not be harassed or discriminated against, but yeah people do have to learn to deal with people not liking them.


See...this is part of where it's a grey area. I've seen people overhear "I don't like the way ___________ ", etc and turn that into "I'm being bullied", even with no direct cross-communication.

Discrimination is a whole different category. I don't think Chapelle's Netflix thing is "discrimination". That's what these dopes think it is.

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Agree Peeps, but they seem to be drawing a very fine line between getting legitimately harassed and discriminated against vs being offended by something that they willingly put on their tv/computer screen.

I was offended seeing Packer touchdown replays on my TV Sunday night. #CancelWGN

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Agree Peeps, but they seem to be drawing a very fine line between getting legitimately harassed and discriminated against vs being offended by something that they willingly put on their tv/computer screen.

I was offended seeing Packer touchdown replays on my TV Sunday night. #CancelWGN

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Precisely my point. You see how ridiculous that sounds.

Carlin, Pryor, and others have said far worse things. Why is there no backlash against them? Just because they said these things a long time ago? If that's the case, why are some dolts trying to cancel Jefferson and Washington because they owned slaves?

It appears that the common sense thing for Netflix, Youtube, etc to say would be, "If you're offended, turn it off," but then again common sense went out the window a long time ago now didn't it.

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The idea that Chapelle singles out trans people is ridiculous. He goes after everyone. "Marginalized" groups demand total subservience now. It's well past acceptance.

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I don't know that it's "being coddled" to expect to not be harassed or discriminated against, but yeah people do have to learn to deal with people not liking them.


That line is blurred lately, no?


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Carlin, Pryor, and others have said far worse things. Why is there no backlash against them? Just because they said these things a long time ago? If that's the case, why are some dolts trying to cancel Jefferson and Washington because they owned slaves?


Carlin/Pryor/etc haven't gotten the backlash (yet) because, yes, they were said a long time ago without new material coming out (because, well, obvious reasons). Now, say Netflix got a hold of some show Carlin did in like 1977...these miserable fucks would definitely freak out. Actually, it probably wouldn't even take a never before seen show...say they were pushing that they are now going to stream all of the Carlin HBO specials...that would probably be all it took.

The Miserables live in their own little tunnel vision society and react to new things. They are (fortunately) too dumb to look into the past. Jefferson/Washington/Founding fathers, etc get called out because of annual holidays. The Miserables have never had an original thought. They pick what is placed in front of them and go looking for something that they though should be an outrage.

They also don't realize they're hypocrites, and get very upset when they're called that.

I'm hoping this Cancel Culture Woke Bullshit is finally turning the corner to being called what it is...a sad attempt at "Liberals" to control culture. You want a rise out of them? Call one of them out for being no better than the people they perceive as their enemies. It leads to a wonderful temper tantrum.

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we just need something they like to be targeted by the government. the problem is they will give up anything at all costs to preserve their right to misery.

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but yeah people do have to learn to deal with people not liking them.


We are deep into the generation of the "every participant gets a trophy" generation.

A lot of kids never have to learn how to deal with things not turning out well or how they expected it to turn out.

And I am well into the "I sound like my parents" generation.

That's my amateur psychological analysis.

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Roger Daltrey doesn't even say "generation" as many times as you just did there.

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Roger Daltrey doesn't even say "generation" as many times as you just did there.


Yeah, I noticed that after I posted it.

Thought about changing it. Didn't.

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You're of the "not editing that" generation.

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but yeah people do have to learn to deal with people not liking them.


i work as a warranty/quality manager, i would say in my line of work it's kind of important. My phone doesn't usually ring bc people want to give me a compliment


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