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They should now be in full rebuild mode, reinventing the team around Fields with offense as its character. New coach, different focus on money and draft investment.

This will not be a short term fix but at least long term is only three years in the NFL. If they hit in this past draft like they think they hit, the cornerstones are present and just need time to develop.

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They should now be in full rebuild mode, reinventing the team around Fields with offense as its character. New coach, different focus on money and draft investment.

This will not be a short term fix but at least long term is only three years in the NFL. If they hit in this past draft like they think they hit, the cornerstones are present and just need time to develop.

Like they think they hit? Every team picked guys they “were surprised were still on the board.”

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You realize this now means they will do a couple moves in the exact opposite direction and proclaim they are going for the playoffs this year

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Sell Herbert to the Titans now that Henry is out.

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No need for a fire sale. A little retooling is perfectly fine. If you can get a decent draft pick for A-Rob, dump him tomorrow.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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They should now be in full rebuild mode, reinventing the team around Fields with offense as its character. New coach, different focus on money and draft investment.

This will not be a short term fix but at least long term is only three years in the NFL. If they hit in this past draft like they think they hit, the cornerstones are present and just need time to develop.

Like they think they hit? Every team picked guys they “were surprised were still on the board.”


Ok, like disinterested, third party evaluators of the draft think they hit. Now furiously do your research trying to find that one outlier that disliked the Bears draft.

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Pace is gonna offer two first rounders to John Tait's family to entice him to come out of retirement.

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Pace is gonna offer two first rounders to John Tait's family to entice him to come out of retirement.


Hopefully we will see Jenkins and Borom on the filed together this year so we can have some level of game evaluation of them.

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Pace is gonna offer two first rounders to John Tait's family to entice him to come out of retirement.


Hopefully we will see Jenkins and Borom on the filed together this year so we can have some level of game evaluation of them.


Borom didn't look bad.

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Will they please load up on actually talented offensive linemen? And healthy ones?

Fields behind a line that can block will make everyone look better. He made Kmet look good when he had time.

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Nas wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
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Pace is gonna offer two first rounders to John Tait's family to entice him to come out of retirement.


Hopefully we will see Jenkins and Borom on the filed together this year so we can have some level of game evaluation of them.


Borom didn't look bad.

Olin seemed impressed with him yesterday on the post game show. Hopefully they have a good one there

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RFDC wrote:
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Pace is gonna offer two first rounders to John Tait's family to entice him to come out of retirement.


Hopefully we will see Jenkins and Borom on the filed together this year so we can have some level of game evaluation of them.


Borom didn't look bad.

Olin seemed impressed with him yesterday on the post game show. Hopefully they have a good one there


He was. Olin has been wrong A LOT too. His personal relationships influence his professional opinions.

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Olin also likes Sam Mustipher, the worst center in the history of centers. :lol:

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
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Pace is gonna offer two first rounders to John Tait's family to entice him to come out of retirement.


Hopefully we will see Jenkins and Borom on the filed together this year so we can have some level of game evaluation of them.


Borom didn't look bad.

Olin seemed impressed with him yesterday on the post game show. Hopefully they have a good one there


He was. Olin has been wrong A LOT too. His personal relationships influence his professional opinions.


Agreed. He loves Mustipher but the guy looks like a career fringe backup to me. Olin coaches him and he happens to fit Olin's player profile of undersized and hard nosed.

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Tabor is already in place as interim. I think now is a perfect time to fire Nagy and start the search. They can now start on line interview starting in Week 16.

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If they hit in this past draft like they think they hit, the cornerstones are present and just need time to develop.


Trading up in the 2nd round for prospects that need major back surgery?


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You realize this now means they will do a couple moves in the exact opposite direction and proclaim they are going for the playoffs this year
I would hope they are smarter than that. I know that may be a stupid thing to hope for, but they have to be realistic. They have already lost to 4 NFC teams. The Bears would basically have to win out to have a chance at the playoffs. This year is no longer about winning games, its about developing Fields. Maybe that was the case all along but with 5 loses already, 4 of those being in conference, that has to be the reality at Halas Hall as well.

If they do not beat the Lions on Thanksgiving, we could easily be looking at an 8-9 game losing streak.

Pace should have been on the phone with all of his past co-workers in Nawlins last night letting them know Dalton and/or Foles would be available for pennies on the dollar.

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You realize this now means they will do a couple moves in the exact opposite direction and proclaim they are going for the playoffs this year
I would hope they are smarter than that. I know that may be a stupid thing to hope for, but they have to be realistic. They have already lost to 4 NFC teams. The Bears would basically have to win out to have a chance at the playoffs. This year is no longer about winning games, its about developing Fields. Maybe that was the case all along but with 5 loses already, 4 of those being in conference, that has to be the reality at Halas Hall as well.

If they do not beat the Lions on Thanksgiving, we could easily be looking at an 8-9 game losing streak.

Pace should have been on the phone with all of his past co-workers in Nawling last night letting them know Dalton and/or Foles would be available for pennies on the dollar.


I agree on this no longer being about winning games. For Pace and Nagy, however, it's all about winning games so they can be sure they're on the team for next year. I can see them mortgaging more of the future for short-term gain this year.

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If Pace and Nagy have a sense that this is a make or break year for them then there is no way they are selling stuff. THey are going to go all out to get to the playoffs.

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If there is not a move made before tomorrow's trade deadline, the McCaskey's should fire Pace at 3:01pm.

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Fields is starting because Pace and Nagy know this isn't a make or break year. Dalton still gives this team the best chance to win. It's a lot closer than it was in Week 3 though.

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If this isn't a make or break year, then Fields should have been practicing exclusively with the first team offense throughout training camp and starting from the first game.

Nagy claims that he had an elaborate development plan established for Fields, but I think we can all see that this is simply not the case. Having Fields sit for a year, run the scout team, and hoping for accelerated improvement in the offseason do not constitute a development plan. They are the confused fumblings of the living embodiment of the Peter Principle.

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You realize this now means they will do a couple moves in the exact opposite direction and proclaim they are going for the playoffs this year
I would hope they are smarter than that. I know that may be a stupid thing to hope for, but they have to be realistic. They have already lost to 4 NFC teams. The Bears would basically have to win out to have a chance at the playoffs. This year is no longer about winning games, its about developing Fields. Maybe that was the case all along but with 5 loses already, 4 of those being in conference, that has to be the reality at Halas Hall as well.

If they do not beat the Lions on Thanksgiving, we could easily be looking at an 8-9 game losing streak.

Pace should have been on the phone with all of his past co-workers in Nawlins last night letting them know Dalton and/or Foles would be available for pennies on the dollar.

:lol: You'd have to send much more than pennies for the Saints to take either of those bums

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Winston is done for the year and the Saints will need some sort of viable backup. If they don't make a trade within the next 28 hours or so, they are looking at signing Cam Newton or somebody else off the scrap heap. They would be wise to speak with Pace and offer a late round pick for either guy.

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Winston is done for the year and the Saints will need some sort of viable backup. If they don't make a trade within the next 28 hours or so, they are looking at signing Cam Newton or somebody else off the scrap heap. They would be wise to speak with Pace and offer a late round pick for either guy.

Taysom Hill is probably better than Dalton and Foles right now and already knows the offense. Simean didn't look too bad either yesterday.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Winston is done for the year and the Saints will need some sort of viable backup. If they don't make a trade within the next 28 hours or so, they are looking at signing Cam Newton or somebody else off the scrap heap. They would be wise to speak with Pace and offer a late round pick for either guy.


Why is Dalton or Foles better than Newton?

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