The Hawks negligence in handling the Kyle Beach abuse allegations and the NHL's even weaker response has exposed hockey's seedy culture of ignoring abuse by coaches, a culture that starts in youth hockey and continues all the way to the NHL.

The league had an opportunity to make a strong statement by slapping huge penalties on the Hawks, but instead fined them less than they have fined other teams for draft violations. The ongoing investigation has not even reached the point where the team provided a recommendation for a know sexual predator allowing the predator to gain employment where he would have access to an even more vulnerable group of victims.

Seeing now that sponsors are pressuring Bettman to do something, anything to address this issue. Attendance is plummeting, not just at Hawks games, but leaguewide.

The Hawks organization is sinking toward irrelevance and they have not hit rock bottom yet. Find it highly unlikely that ownership did not know anything about the issue, if it gets out that they lied, like Q, and a bunch of the other front office types did, we are looking at a NBA like forced ownership change.

could be...i believe that hockey has other hurdles that always pushes hockey as 4th on the sport list on the 10 pm news - more so in today's era.

i believe a canadian-style drinking culture is way more prevalent and not helpful, but it appears the media is making a correlation between lower hawks' attendance and the video coach scandal. the club is crap and i believe that is the reason, but the media will be relentless in pushing their narrative.

All this because some dude couldn't admit he liked getting sucked off by another dude. The Hawks are yet another victim of toxic masculinity.

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Which media specifically is pushing this "narrative?'" What I hear is that it is a combination of their terrible start, Covid concerns, and the abuse scandal.

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Lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be.

how's that for a direct correlation?

I'd guess the lower attendance is due to them playing badly more than the abuse scandal.

Do you mean an example?

Did you read the article? In addition to the sex scandal, Pope cited the losing, Covid concerns, and how the sell-out streak ended before the sex abuse report was released. Pope isn't relentlessly pushing some narrative.

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Lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be.

ok...you asked which media is correlating dwindling hawks attendance and the video coach scandal.

i posted the headline that explicitly makes a direct correlation.

the sun-times, print media.

dan bernstein on the radio...well. that's 2 examples. print and radio.

obviously, you don't believe the media is making that correlation. it's ok, just say that.

i'm not sure what other proof i can offer to buttress my position.

Bernstein was out to get the Hawks before the scandal even happened. Doesn't count.

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Whoever led the push for hockey at ESPN has to be concerned about job security.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

The rank and file at ESPN have always wanted hockey back. It was one executive who wanted to replace the NHL with movies and reality shows, but he's gone now, as is the guy who wanted to do Deadspin TV with Katie Nolan and Bomani Jones.

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Linda Cohn is probably the only person there who wanted it back. No show there commits any time to the sport. The last discussion was when they inked the deal and crickets ever since.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

here's another from the usa today.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/blackhawks/2021/11/04/blackhawks-scandal-kyle-beach-whats-next/6258964001/



if that isn't a direct correlation between dwindling hawks attendance and the scandal, i don't what is.

the usa today is a member of the national print media?

so, local and national media are making direct correlations.

Attendance is down because the team sucks and Covid restrictions are a burden to attend to watch Seth Jones get burned in his own zone

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

If the Blackhawks were 7-1-2, the place would be sold out and that guy would still be paying attention.

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Sherman remarked, "Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" Grant looked up. "Yes," he replied, followed by a puff. "Yes. Lick 'em tomorrow, though."

Plus the high ticket prices make it harder to watch a team that blows.

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Sherman remarked, "Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" Grant looked up. "Yes," he replied, followed by a puff. "Yes. Lick 'em tomorrow, though."

The team sucks. Hockey is my second favorite sport, but bad hockey is impossible to watch. I sampled plenty this year, and I would rather have diarrhea.

Plus there was a relatively fun MLB playoffs, nearly always must watch NFL games, and an enjoyable Bulls team to watch instead.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

agreed.

Beach has nothing to do with the attendance.

1. They are absolutely terrible
2. Mandates
3. Real life GTA getting to and from the game

Its about 95 percent 1

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That's my purse! I don't know you!

They stink and will for awhile. Should have dealt Kane and/or Toews when they had value.

They can't even do a proper rebuild thanks to lispy's parting gifts. Traded away lottery picks for Seth Jones and then cap fucked them by signing him to that insane deal.

That figurative cocksucker did more damage to the organization than the literal cocksucker.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

Those moves had to be deliberate so that nobody else would want the job. They made no sense at the time, and make less sense now.

Hopefully they can keep Fleury healthy and unload him before the deadline to a team in contention, and let Lankinen go back to being the #1 goalie.

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"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal

The pick they got from the Hawks in June will likely win ROY


oh and they will get another top ten in 2022.