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What are you prolific at vito?

Bad, racist posts?



The article in the trib doesn't mention the child's race.

Congratulations, you have made the same assumption that you believe vito has.

Zac Stacy thread

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wouldnt an arguably low number still be too many?


Not according to MANY who struggle with Covid-19 protocols.

Now they're suggesting that we need to come down hard on middle school criminals before an epidemic of middle school violent crimes break out in the city and country.

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wouldnt an arguably low number still be too many?


Not according to MANY who struggle with Covid-19 protocols.

Now they're suggesting that we need to come down hard on middle school criminals before an epidemic of middle school violent crimes break out in the city and country.


Shouldn't everyone want to come down hard on criminals? Particularly on multiple time ones?

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What are you prolific at vito?

Bad, racist posts?



The article in the trib doesn't mention the child's race.

Congratulations, you have made the same assumption that you believe vito has.

Zac Stacy thread



Is this what you are referring to?

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From the first day the situation she put herself in the odds of being battered in domestic violence eventually by the man she chose even without knowing his past history had to be astronomically high.


I think this insane old racist needs to be out to pasture.

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Also this:

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From the first day the situation she put herself in the odds of being battered in domestic violence eventually by the man she chose even without knowing his past history had to be astronomically high.


I think this insane old racist needs to be out to pasture.


Yeah his statement is petty bogus . Would really only apply is Stacy were a police officer .


...researchers generally agree that among ethnic minority groups in the United States, Blacks are the most likely to experience domestic violence—either male-to-female or female-to-male—followed by Hispanics and then Whites. Meanwhile, Asians are the least likely to experience intimate partner violence.

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Nas wrote:
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wouldnt an arguably low number still be too many?


Not according to MANY who struggle with Covid-19 protocols.

Now they're suggesting that we need to come down hard on middle school criminals before an epidemic of middle school violent crimes break out in the city and country.

So the reason not to lock up a middle schooler committing multiple violent crimes with a gun is because there aren't more middle schoolers committing violent gun crimes? Do you honestly think you look like you're doing anything other than trying to excuse an 11-year old committing repeated violent crime?


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Jbi11s wrote:
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From the first day the situation she put herself in the odds of being battered in domestic violence eventually by the man she chose even without knowing his past history had to be astronomically high.


I think this insane old racist needs to be out to pasture.


Yeah his statement is petty bogus . Would really only apply is Stacy were a police officer .


...researchers generally agree that among ethnic minority groups in the United States, Blacks are the most likely to experience domestic violence—either male-to-female or female-to-male—followed by Hispanics and then Whites. Meanwhile, Asians are the least likely to experience intimate partner violence.


Who are the researchers?

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I asked VitoScot the same question.

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I asked VitoScot the same question.



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What does it matter who the researchers are?

It's another example of vitoSCOTi posting things that are just as bad if not worse than some of the things America posted, yet Seacrest continues to remain obtuse and turns a blind eye.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Nas wrote:
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wouldnt an arguably low number still be too many?


Not according to MANY who struggle with Covid-19 protocols.

Now they're suggesting that we need to come down hard on middle school criminals before an epidemic of middle school violent crimes break out in the city and country.


Shouldn't everyone want to come down hard on criminals? Particularly on multiple time ones?


Maybe where you live coming down hard on middle school kids (That aren't their own) makes sense, but no, I don't think coming down hard on any middle school child is ever a solution.

How young is too young for you? Are there any crimes that we shouldn't come down hard on middle school kids for? What about the use and distribution of "illegal' drugs and pills inside of school?

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He capitalized black though, so he’s either: 1) closely following the AP style guide, 2) respectfully disrespectful or 3) copying & pasting from somewhere. Option 3 could probably clear up the identity of these researchers.

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Generally agree was kind of a giveaway I think.

Here is a quick google search of domestic violence rates by race.

https://www.google.com/search?q=domesti ... nt=gws-wiz

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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wouldnt an arguably low number still be too many?


Not according to MANY who struggle with Covid-19 protocols.

Now they're suggesting that we need to come down hard on middle school criminals before an epidemic of middle school violent crimes break out in the city and country.


Shouldn't everyone want to come down hard on criminals? Particularly on multiple time ones?


Maybe where you live coming down hard on middle school kids (That aren't their own) makes sense, but no, I don't think coming down hard on any middle school child is ever a solution.

How young is too young for you? Are there any crimes that we shouldn't come down hard on middle school kids for? What about the use and distribution of "illegal' drugs and pills inside of school?

Is this thread still about the prolific (armed) carjacker?

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote:
wouldnt an arguably low number still be too many?


Not according to MANY who struggle with Covid-19 protocols.

Now they're suggesting that we need to come down hard on middle school criminals before an epidemic of middle school violent crimes break out in the city and country.


Shouldn't everyone want to come down hard on criminals? Particularly on multiple time ones?


Maybe where you live coming down hard on middle school kids (That aren't their own) makes sense, but no, I don't think coming down hard on any middle school child is ever a solution.

How young is too young for you? Are there any crimes that we shouldn't come down hard on middle school kids for? What about the use and distribution of "illegal' drugs and pills inside of school?

I don't think you get to act like the moral authority when you're the one excusing violent crimes.


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Nas wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Nas wrote:
SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote:
wouldnt an arguably low number still be too many?


Not according to MANY who struggle with Covid-19 protocols.

Now they're suggesting that we need to come down hard on middle school criminals before an epidemic of middle school violent crimes break out in the city and country.


Shouldn't everyone want to come down hard on criminals? Particularly on multiple time ones?


Maybe where you live coming down hard on middle school kids (That aren't their own) makes sense, but no, I don't think coming down hard on any middle school child is ever a solution.

How young is too young for you? Are there any crimes that we shouldn't come down hard on middle school kids for? What about the use and distribution of "illegal' drugs and pills inside of school?

If they keep letting him out he's eventually going to kill someone during one of these carjackings. Should we just wait until that happens before coming down hard on him?

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Franky T wrote:
Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote:
wouldnt an arguably low number still be too many?


Not according to MANY who struggle with Covid-19 protocols.

Now they're suggesting that we need to come down hard on middle school criminals before an epidemic of middle school violent crimes break out in the city and country.


Shouldn't everyone want to come down hard on criminals? Particularly on multiple time ones?


Maybe where you live coming down hard on middle school kids (That aren't their own) makes sense, but no, I don't think coming down hard on any middle school child is ever a solution.

How young is too young for you? Are there any crimes that we shouldn't come down hard on middle school kids for? What about the use and distribution of "illegal' drugs and pills inside of school?

If they keep letting him out he's eventually going to kill someone during one of these carjackings. Should we just wait until that happens before coming down hard on him?



Sticking him into a system where he is bound to be abused and quite possibly raped will almost guarantee he will end up killing someone.

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I did the work so nobody else has to…

Seems like a cut & paste from here: https://www.verywellmind.com/domestic-v ... city-62648

That links back to a 10yr old report from our very trustworthy friends at the CDC.

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Seacrest wrote:
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Nas wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Nas wrote:
SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote:
wouldnt an arguably low number still be too many?


Not according to MANY who struggle with Covid-19 protocols.

Now they're suggesting that we need to come down hard on middle school criminals before an epidemic of middle school violent crimes break out in the city and country.


Shouldn't everyone want to come down hard on criminals? Particularly on multiple time ones?


Maybe where you live coming down hard on middle school kids (That aren't their own) makes sense, but no, I don't think coming down hard on any middle school child is ever a solution.

How young is too young for you? Are there any crimes that we shouldn't come down hard on middle school kids for? What about the use and distribution of "illegal' drugs and pills inside of school?

If they keep letting him out he's eventually going to kill someone during one of these carjackings. Should we just wait until that happens before coming down hard on him?



Sticking him into a system where he is bound to be abused and quite possibly raped will almost guarantee he will end up killing someone.


So the Catholic Church is out

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He capitalized black though, so he’s either: 1) closely following the AP style guide, 2) respectfully disrespectful or 3) copying & pasting from somewhere. Option 3 could probably clear up the identity of these researchers.


https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/ocdv/downlo ... ty-Sex.pdf

I do not think that anyone here believes that NYC is racist for publishing that study.

So if there is a problem, why not address it?

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Of course it has to be one or the other, right? :roll:

Nobody is saying throw an 11 year old "in a cage" after their first offense. Maybe not even after their second. But when the Chicago Police Supt says, and I quote, "Unfortunately, this 11-year-old has been arrested before and he is considered a prolific carjacker in our city," simply letting him go is not the answer either. 11 years old is old enough to know that you don't stick a gun into somebody's face and steal their car. Its wrong the first, second, third, and fourth time.

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Seacrest wrote:
Franky T wrote:
Nas wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Nas wrote:
SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote:
wouldnt an arguably low number still be too many?


Not according to MANY who struggle with Covid-19 protocols.

Now they're suggesting that we need to come down hard on middle school criminals before an epidemic of middle school violent crimes break out in the city and country.


Shouldn't everyone want to come down hard on criminals? Particularly on multiple time ones?


Maybe where you live coming down hard on middle school kids (That aren't their own) makes sense, but no, I don't think coming down hard on any middle school child is ever a solution.

How young is too young for you? Are there any crimes that we shouldn't come down hard on middle school kids for? What about the use and distribution of "illegal' drugs and pills inside of school?

If they keep letting him out he's eventually going to kill someone during one of these carjackings. Should we just wait until that happens before coming down hard on him?



Sticking him into a system where he is bound to be abused and quite possibly raped will almost guarantee he will end up killing someone.

How to deal with juvenile offenders is a tough problem, no doubt. But this kid has a bad enough rap sheet that the Chief of Police called him "prolific". There are juvenile facilities for young offenders like him.

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Nas wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Nas wrote:
SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote:
wouldnt an arguably low number still be too many?


Not according to MANY who struggle with Covid-19 protocols.

Now they're suggesting that we need to come down hard on middle school criminals before an epidemic of middle school violent crimes break out in the city and country.


Shouldn't everyone want to come down hard on criminals? Particularly on multiple time ones?


Maybe where you live coming down hard on middle school kids (That aren't their own) makes sense, but no, I don't think coming down hard on any middle school child is ever a solution.

How young is too young for you? Are there any crimes that we shouldn't come down hard on middle school kids for? What about the use and distribution of "illegal' drugs and pills inside of school?


For me, violent crimes have to have consequences. If there are multiple crimes the consequences get more severe every time.

Let me turn the question around to you now. Is there any crime for you that would warrant coming down hard on an 11 year old for?

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Seacrest wrote:
Franky T wrote:
Nas wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Nas wrote:
SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote:
wouldnt an arguably low number still be too many?


Not according to MANY who struggle with Covid-19 protocols.

Now they're suggesting that we need to come down hard on middle school criminals before an epidemic of middle school violent crimes break out in the city and country.


Shouldn't everyone want to come down hard on criminals? Particularly on multiple time ones?


Maybe where you live coming down hard on middle school kids (That aren't their own) makes sense, but no, I don't think coming down hard on any middle school child is ever a solution.

How young is too young for you? Are there any crimes that we shouldn't come down hard on middle school kids for? What about the use and distribution of "illegal' drugs and pills inside of school?

If they keep letting him out he's eventually going to kill someone during one of these carjackings. Should we just wait until that happens before coming down hard on him?



Sticking him into a system where he is bound to be abused and quite possibly raped will almost guarantee he will end up killing someone.


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The stats on the Catholic Church don't back up your assertion.

But The White Knight comes to share his own personal bigotry.

Frank is posting in this thread. Leave the stupidity to him.

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Nas wrote:
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wouldnt an arguably low number still be too many?


Not according to MANY who struggle with Covid-19 protocols.

Now they're suggesting that we need to come down hard on middle school criminals before an epidemic of middle school violent crimes break out in the city and country.

So the reason not to lock up a middle schooler committing multiple violent crimes with a gun is because there aren't more middle schoolers committing violent gun crimes? Do you honestly think you look like you're doing anything other than trying to excuse an 11-year old committing repeated violent crime?


MANY in this thread believe that we need to do more to cure a middle school violent crime epidemic that doesn't exist anywhere in our country. While simultaneously fighting any attempts to get rid of a pandemic that has killed nearly 10 million people worldwide. It just doesn't make sense to me like many of the inconsistent and overly emotional takes in this community.

I'm not saying that an 11 year old kid shouldn't get in trouble/be punished for an armed robbery or any other crimes that they commit. I just don't see a reason why we need to find ways to impose harsher penalties on someone who hasn't even had their first wet dream yet and whose brain won't be fully developed for another 14 years.

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Seacrest wrote:
Franky T wrote:
Nas wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Nas wrote:
SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote:
wouldnt an arguably low number still be too many?


Not according to MANY who struggle with Covid-19 protocols.

Now they're suggesting that we need to come down hard on middle school criminals before an epidemic of middle school violent crimes break out in the city and country.


Shouldn't everyone want to come down hard on criminals? Particularly on multiple time ones?


Maybe where you live coming down hard on middle school kids (That aren't their own) makes sense, but no, I don't think coming down hard on any middle school child is ever a solution.

How young is too young for you? Are there any crimes that we shouldn't come down hard on middle school kids for? What about the use and distribution of "illegal' drugs and pills inside of school?

If they keep letting him out he's eventually going to kill someone during one of these carjackings. Should we just wait until that happens before coming down hard on him?



Sticking him into a system where he is bound to be abused and quite possibly raped will almost guarantee he will end up killing someone.

Franky T wrote:
How to deal with juvenile offenders is a tough problem, no doubt. But this kid has a bad enough rap sheet that the Chief of Police called him "prolific". There are juvenile facilities for young offenders like him.


Same problems exist in the juvenile facilities.

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what happened to the dreaded audy homes?

maybe we can use some federal covid money for this? after all, we'll be using it for some families getting $500 a month in guaranteed income.


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The stats on the Catholic Church don't back up your assertion.
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I notice you didn't post in that thread.

You calling others out for being stupid is even worse than Caller Bob running around posting his ankle biter gif.

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