It's a gateway to murder? Do we have data on that?

What do you think will happen if we start imposing tougher penalties on middle school kids? You think they'll graduate to a model citizens after years of physical and sexual abuse at the hands of bigger kids and adults?

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Nah middle school aged kids are an anomaly for the most part. However once they reach their teenage years their behavior should be addressed and just aren't for the most part. A ton of excuses and passes granted. They shoot, kill, carjack, and rob too. Once they begin to partake in those sort of activities they have gone too far. If they are granted one pass for being an adolescent they shouldn't be granted a pass once their behavior becomes habitual.

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Sucks to be him then. I'm with Peeps - violent crimes need to carry consequences regardless of age. Especially one who commits multiple offenses.

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A Military academy?

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Those are the juvenile facilities.

Society helped to create the problem of kids committing crimes.

Society needs to sit down together and find a way to fix it.

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Yes, it certainly does. And I'm going to guess through little to no fault of his own.

But sticking 11 year old kids in a system where they will be sexually and physically abuse is far more unjust then the car jackings.

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Yeah, no one ever gets killed during armed carjackings. Let him go.

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Yes, it's the people arguing that a violent criminal, so well-known by police that the police chief is aware of him and calls him "prolific", should face a much harsher penalty than the catch-and-release he has previously enjoyed throughout his crime spree, who are the overly emotional ones. NOT the guy who is saying that if you don't like COVID lockdowns you should accept kids being carte blanche to commit violent gun crimes. THAT GUY is totally sane and normal.

I'm all for fixing it. Until then, though, if you're a habitually violent kid committing violent crimes you have to go into the system.

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I'm glad you asked. There is no crime that any 11 year old could commit where I would support locking them up and throwing away the key. I don't think any 11 year old is irredeemable.

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Fair enough.

I used to have hope like that. I guess I'm just jaded now.

Good talk.

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No, picking up the gun was his fault. Pointing it at a stranger and demanding their vehicle was his fault. Stop yourself.

I'm sorry, but that isn't an answer for that kid.

Or any child for that matter.

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I'm skeptical that you would feel this way if an 11 year old assaulted or killed one of your family members.

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I wouldn't expect you to have any understanding of the plight of a kid from the inner city, or what he faces everyday that you never will.

Was i wrong to hope that you would keep your mouth shut so your ignorance wouldn't flow so freely??

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I never said they didn't. You appear to be arguing that it's a near certainty that someone will be killed unless this kid is thrown away until they are 18 or 21. You could be right, I just wanted to know if you had data to back up your claim.

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As if you do?!


Certainly an 11 year old could be impressionable enough to have this not be his fault the first time...maybe not even the second time. But when the Supt of Police is calling him "prolific," yes at some point the blame falls on the person doing the same act over and over again.

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That was the first thing that I considered before typing my response. Obviously, I hope that it is never put to a test, but I'm fairly confident that I wouldn't want to throw the kid away. His parents? His family? Absolutely!

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At the age of 11 I don't think I was prolific at anything. I'm impressed.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I can sympathize/empathize with plight that I haven't endured, but that stops the moment the decision is made to repeatedly commit violent gun crime. You're just making excuses at this point. Does everyone get to have their life stories weighted against their violent acts, or just people you deem unpunishable by some secret rubric?

You were wrong to think that I'd give a shit about anything having to do with you.

Yes, people should have their life weighted before being judged and punished.

And you do give a shit about me, otherwise you wouldn't have responded. Now, call me a fuckwad and move on. Dope.

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NAS playing the race card to avoid the actual subject. Shocking!

There you have it Frank, I got the nimrod to tee it up for you. Blast away.

makes me think of jesse pomeroy.

Near certainty? No. And I don't have data, but seems to happen fairly frequently.

https://www.google.com/search?q=chicago ... nt=gws-wiz

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The bigger question is why is an 11yr old is jacking cars at gun point. No one sane is saying lock him up and throw away the key. Locking him up for a year and giving him the skills to get a job in a few years would be my answer. Letting him go and ignoring the offense will only encourage him to do it again.

There is no doubt that I reside in the penthouse of Seacrest's head. I've gone ahead and removed all the crucifixes.

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His family? Siblings, cousins, uncles? Kim Jong Nas over here

I hope it is never a test either, but again if a habitual offender with an arrest record happened to carjack one of your kids, I'm still very skeptical that you wouldn't want him/her prosecuted to the fullest extent the law allows.

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