"Wouldn't It Be Nice"
"Good Vibrations"
"God Only Knows"
"Feel Flows"

All better than whatever the fuck the best Beatles song is.

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I'm not trying to be argumentative here and I'm mostly aligned with you about the undeserved reverence for the Beatles that must not be questioned, but I don't think that's really true. The Stones are much more derivative than the Beatles.

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If the Beatles were so good how come they never made a song with The Fat Boys?

Another excellent point!

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"a day in the life" broke brian wilson's brain. we could've actually had "smile" had he not heard that song.

That video was awesome.

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Elections have consequences.

Do you really think "A Day In The Life" is objectively better than "Wouldn't It Be Nice"?

Right off the bat I'd say that if we're talking about the pop music idiom, the former is just too long.

I see "A Day In The Life" as a component of a larger work rather than as a stand alone pop song.

There's something about working within the constraints of 2 minutes 50 seconds.

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Thank you. Been saying it for years.



Spot on.



Yep.

Also, Hey Jude may actually be the biggest auditory abortion known to man. From the moment McCartney starts singing, I can feel myself getting angrier.

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One of the things that annoys me about The Beatles is that people count what people did after they were no longer The Beatles. It's like saying the 90s Bulls were great because Phil Jackson won 5 titles with the Lakers.

The Beatles are alright. They are showed up at the right place at the right time and had some talent. They "influenced" a lot of people because of that but it's not like the world would not have the concept of a "music video" if not for them inventing it or that we would be sitting here in 2021 and people would be saying "A band playing in a sports stadium? What a dumb idea. No one would go!".

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It's like the guys who go to spring training or training camp telling you how great it was

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I think you're falling into the same trap that you said others were in, who think the Beatles are great because that's what they have been told forever. Do you actually like God Only Knows that much, or are you going by McCartney's alleged statement saying it was the best song ever written?

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people have been momentarily deluded with Kobe and later Lebron. When they break fandom and make a sober objective and subjective comparison, they see how those guys don't match

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I dont have strong feelings one way or the other about the Beatles, but this point from Brick is dead on

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Beach Boys are great. Yes Pet Sounds made the Beatles jealous.

Also Ive learned thru the years that the Stones are much bigger in the US than they are in the UK.

they're completely different types of songs. i would compare "surf's up" more to "a day in the life" and the latter is certainly superior despite van dyke parks' best efforts to do the most lyrical gymnastics possible. or, even "good vibrations" is a better comparison because of the fact that it's basically 2 songs in one. that's a tough one to choose between, though, because i love 'em both.

The Beatles have a lot of fluff, but there are two or three songs on the White Album that are better than these.

Rumble- Link Wray
Pipeline & Walk Don't Run- The Ventures

There's you're all time great 'surf' songs.

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People don't really do that because none of what they did solo was as good as what they did together. Maaaaayyyyybe "All Things Must Pass," but it certainly showed Lennon/McCartney songs were way better than the weird stuff Lennon did solo or the schmaltzy stuff McCartney did. If you mean what they did solo makes what they did as a group look better because it wasn't anywhere near as good, sure.

You want awful? I have Paul Simon songs coming up on YouTube because of you. I'm pretty pissed about it.

The Beatles did the Beach Boys better than the Beach Boys.

They have nothing as good as Back In The USSR

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I amend my previous statement to, "there are three or four songs on the White Album that are better than these"

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I'd rather listen to Wings than the Beatles.

And the only Wings song I don't hate is Maybe I'm Amazed.

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Maybe I'm Amazed sucks. Sucks hard. Paul and his elevator muzak.

Best Beach Boys song is "River Song" off Dennis's album. Carl contributed heavily to it. It's a tour de force from the opening piano line to the deep choir at the end. Better than any pocket symphony Brian put together. In fact, like Good Vibrations it could have been two or three separate songs and still sounded complete.

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and if you want good surf music, the Rip Chords are a good place to start. Terry Melcher and Brian Johnston. Melcher sounds better than Brian with his voice doubling ability and some of those songs are just tight. Beach Boys without the frills.

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Paul's not that good of a drummer.

I'm not going to slag The Beach Boys. I'd fully admit Brian Wilson can hold his own with Lennon/McCartney in songwriting and if you want to say God Only Knows is as good as anything the Beatles did, okay. When you throw in the instruments though The Beatles pull pretty far ahead. I think I've mentioned it one of the frequent Beatles are overrated threads that pop up, but to go from "Please Please Me" and "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" in early '63 to the Revolver album (with 5 albums in between) 3 years later blows my mind.

Dude, those harmonies at the end when the whole thing is welling up and Carl comes in like an angel, it makes me weep.

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What did I do?

This is better than anything the Beach Boys ever did -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmVd9F1fW00

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You know me like that.

This is maybe the first time I've ever seen an argument that The Beatles were good but the individual Beatles were not that good.

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Like an idiot I clicked on your link and now Paul Simon is showing up in YouTube playlists. I hate Paul Simon!!!!

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Good thing I didn't say that. The Beatles work being better than anything that the individual members put out later is the least controversial statement ever.

KD getting Brick-rolled.

Are you serious? You really don't understand why a bunch of guys achieving a musical accord might be better than each of those guys on his own?

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