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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:44 pm 
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Kmet was a 2nd round pick. My expectations were Kelce (3rd rounder) or Ertz (2nd rounder). Perhaps my expectations were too high.


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 Post subject: Re: Cole Kmet
PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:45 pm 
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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You take one stat, and one that has a lot of subjective in a way similar to RBI, and are like

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as if you've proven your point
Like you did in this thread four different times in this thread by listing Kmet's receiving yards?


except, I also included yards, targets, the nfl rank for each of those and catch %

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Caller Bob wrote:
Kmet was a 2nd round pick. My expectations were Kelce (3rd rounder) or Ertz (2nd rounder). Perhaps my expectations were too high.


Well, you can correct that in free agency this year with Evan Engram, David Njoku or OJ Howard, all who were taken in the first round.

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 Post subject: Re: Cole Kmet
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good dolphin wrote:
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Kmet was a 2nd round pick. My expectations were Kelce (3rd rounder) or Ertz (2nd rounder). Perhaps my expectations were too high.


Well, you can correct that in free agency this year with Evan Engram, David Njoku or OJ Howard, all who were taken in the first round.

You shouldn't have to correct a 2nd round pick but here we are


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Caller Bob wrote:
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Kmet was a 2nd round pick. My expectations were Kelce (3rd rounder) or Ertz (2nd rounder). Perhaps my expectations were too high.


Well, you can correct that in free agency this year with Evan Engram, David Njoku or OJ Howard, all who were taken in the first round.

You shouldn't have to correct a 2nd round pick but here we are

Just wait until you realize you have to correct your franchise quarterback 1st round pick again next year.

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 Post subject: Re: Cole Kmet
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except, I also included yards, targets, the nfl rank for each of those and catch %
And as I pointed out Kmet had three catches of 10+ yards against Minnesota on MNF, yet all were on 3rd & long and none of them were even close to a first down. A good chunk of his '12th place' receiving yards were acquired in similar garbage situations. He's 16th in YPC and YPG, and only Jacksonville's starting TE failed to catch a TD this year along with him.

Maybe a new coach does more with Kmet, but the eye test and some of the rankings above say he is below average.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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He's 16th in YPC and YPG


You are not supposed to be proving my point.

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Hey if you want to hang your hat on Kmet being better than the starting tight ends on Detroit, Seattle, New York (both teams), Cleveland, and Jacksonville, go ahead.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Hey if you want to hang your hat on Kmet being better than the starting tight ends on Detroit, Seattle, New York (both teams), Cleveland, and Jacksonville, go ahead.


NYG had a first round pick as their TE. Browns had BOTH a first rounder AND a highly paid FA. Detroit had a first rounder as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Cole Kmet
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So second year Kmet was better than three rookies on teams with double digit loses.
Edit- sorry, Browns lost 9 games

You don't even need a step stool to set the bar that high.

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 Post subject: Re: Cole Kmet
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
So second year Kmet was better than three rookies on teams with double digit loses.
Edit- sorry, Browns lost 9 games

You don't even need a step stool to set the bar that high.


Two were fourth year players (Engram and Njoku), one was a third (Hockenson)

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 Post subject: Re: Cole Kmet
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I’d consider giving some leeway for Kmet in the RZ with Graham taking targets except (as much as I think Graham’s salary was wasted) he couldn’t make the catches Graham did. Now they wouldn’t run the same plays for him, but you can point to something Graham definitely does well that gets them TD’s while not being able to point to anything Kmet can do to get the same results yet.


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Honestly I wouldn't be blasting anyone on offense aside from Allen Robinson. The team rarely seemed to commit to a coordinated game plan befitting the piss poor coaching. He's certainly better than the obvious bust that was Adam Shaheen (?).

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So second year Kmet was better than three rookies on teams with double digit loses.
Edit- sorry, Browns lost 9 games

You don't even need a step stool to set the bar that high.


Two were fourth year players (Engram and Njoku), one was a third (Hockenson)

:lol: :lol:

Frank's killing me in this thread

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I'm sure. You aren't used to Bears fans asking for their players to be better, yet here we are.

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We may discover that a lot of these guys are significantly better with good coaching and game planning.

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I hope so. I'm not sure I see it with Kmet, but I'd love to be wrong and see him become really useful in a Bears uniform.

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Nas wrote:
We may discover that a lot of these guys are significantly better with good coaching and game planning.


I believe this.

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We may discover that a lot of these guys are significantly better with good coaching and game planning.


I believe this.

Of course you do. You’re a glass is half full guy and God bless you for it. This board needs more like you (I’m serious about that).

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 Post subject: Re: Cole Kmet
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We may discover that a lot of these guys are significantly better with good coaching and game planning.

I don't think so, Nas. I think Pace was terrible at drafting offense.

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We may discover that a lot of these guys are significantly better with good coaching and game planning.

yes, but will it be of significant improvement? I don't think so.

The coaching was bad and the offensive line play was bad. That most certainly gives us the possibility the WR and TE were better than the showed, but if they were A LOT better, they would have elevated the bad coaching and line play.

I just don't see it. We can go back to Greg Olson as a Tight End. He played on some bad teams but we knew the guy could get open and catch. He couldn't block for shit, but we saw how good of a receiving tight end he was on shit teams.

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