Now that he’s not limited from greatness having that awful Matt Nagy coaching him , he’s gotta go something like 5k yards , 40 TD passes . Can’t wait to see it . Go Bears!!!!

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

It will be great. I hope the defense can keep up

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Hes going to score so fast and so often the defense will always be on the field and i will have millions from the AMC MOASS too

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

I cringe when I think of these candidates trying to out-gush each other over Fields when interviewing with the search team.

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Leery Holmes stopped just short ( but of course implied he and the family are ) of calling McCaskey racist for not fawning over Fields at the presser .

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

I wonder if Sir is referring to McCaskey's response to Haugh's question about whether keeping Fields is a prerequisite for the job, where George said he wants to hear what the candidates' plans are "for the quarterback position" instead of what their plans are "for Justin Fields." If Holmes thinks that is racist or even disrespectful to Fields, fuck him.

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I think it's actually a surprising moment of competence for McCaskey to implicitly defer to the incoming GM on the question of Fields. Despite all the fanfare about Fields it simply shouldn't be up to McCaskey to determine if he's the QB moving forward.

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That’s exactly what he was referring to .

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

the question asking if fields will be involved in coach search was the dumbest question asked at that presser.

holy crap, i missed the Fields question. Chicago media really does have Fields fitted for a gold jacket already.

I don't know about that...it's a fair question. Are you going to empower the new GM to make their own evaluations or are you going to start him off with parameters? It would be very Bears to force him to love Fields. George wouldn't admit it, but any of the GM candidates or coaches that would come in and say "Oye....Ryan may have reached on Fields. I wouldn't have made that pick and here's why..." is going to get passed up.

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I'm on the record as being a pro-Fields guy, but I recognize that Fields didn't do much to convince anyone that he can be the Bears' long-term starter. Consequently, I have no problem with George's refusal to commit to Fields individually or his preference to talk about the "quarterback position" instead of mentioning Fields by name.

The real problem here is that George allowed Pace to move up in the draft--and trade away future draft picks--to select Fields when he must have known there was a good chance he would fire both Pace and Nagy in the near future. That's crazy.

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The real real problem is that the Bears should have fired them both guys after the Saints "playoff" game.

In the moment, I commend him for allowing Pace to do what he needed to do in order to get one of the premier QB prospects to come out of college in recent years.

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I dont understand this line of thinking.

Even if he knows there is a good chance he is firing them after the season, they still need to get the QB position figured out. It is not like he allowed him to trade up to get some no name guy. They traded up to get a guy considered to be a top talent. I would think that is pretty much the only situation where you would be ok with making this move. Because the reality is if they dont figure out the QB position it is not going to matter who fills the GM and Coach roles.

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That trade gives an incoming GM and coach a lot of rope.

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GO BEARS!!!

THIS.
"They earned one more chance to improve things"....they sure as hell earned NOTHING, George.

Ralph,
Fields was a better draft pick than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, but I wouldn't say he was a consensus elite QB draft pick. Time will tell.

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Fields is better than anyone that a new guy would have to select this year. He would be darn near 1/1 in this class. Pace did his successor a favor.

If Fields fizzles out, it wasn't his guy and he is owed a reboot. If Fields succeeds, the heaviest lifting of the new guy's job was already complete.

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Why would you trust guys you're considering firing in 2021 to trade your first round draft pick in 2022?

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I like the Fields pick, but it doesn't make sense to trust Pace to trade away the 2022 first round pick if you've lost confidence in him.

And your statement about Pace's successor potentially being "owed" a reboot is precisely the problem with this scenario. If Fields fails, then it's Pace's fault and McCaskey will feel obligated to give additional years to a GM who may not have earned them.

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I think it really comes down to who you are trading up for. It is not like they were trading up for a TE or a S. They were trading up for a guy that many considered to be the 2nd best QB in the class and a top 5 pick. You have to take that shot especially considering the history of the QB position with the Bears.

But ultimately if they did not trust them to handle the draft that year then they should have cleaned house that year before the draft.

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Assuming he stays healthy im expecting 30 total tds, 4k yards.

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Of course George should have fired both prior to the 2021 season. But he didn't do that.

Accepting that he wanted to give Nagy and Pace one more chance, though, his decision to let them trade up for Fields makes no sense since Pace and Nagy had already identified Dalton as the solution to their QB problem for 2021. Fields was intended as a solution for 2022 and beyond, when George knew he might be employing a different head coach and GM.

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So you think ownership should have said no thanks to a top rated QB and rode with Dalton?

That just makes no sense. You have a chance to get a top QB. No matter who is the GM or coach, you take that swing.

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Can Fields stay on the field? I'm putting an Over/Under on games played at 14.5 and taking the under.

I see where TM is going. If you allow Pace to acquire Foles last year, then pay up good money to get Dalton to replace Foles, then allow him to trade draft capital to acquire Fields, at some point you'd think someone would step in and ask Pace if he knows what he's doing. Of course, someone should have popped that question in 2017 when he got hoodwinked into thinking someone would trade up to #2 grab (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky before he could at #3, even though there was no consensus #1 QB that draft, so he then drops precious draft capital to move up one spot. Amateur hour

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Ben Simmons is a liability: check
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If Pace is the GM, as dumb as it was to keep him, you should give him the same amount of draft control he always had. If you chop his legs off during the draft that's doubling down on your bad decision by basically admitting you should have fired him. Which of course they should have, but it was too late.

Too much rope, in my opinion. This underscores the importance of having key organizational players operating on the same timeline.

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No you shouldn't since he already identified Dalton as his QB for 2021.

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If you only wanted Pace to be concerned about 2021 you should have fired him.

McCaskey bascially announced in the 2020 season-ending press conference that the decision to retain the coach and GM beyond 2021 would be based on the team's 2021 record. Pace and Nagy were in "win now" mode from that point forward; they hadn't been given the license or luxury to plan for 2022. But then George contradicts this stance by allowing them to pick a QB for 2022 and beyond. It's pure stupidity.

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