Does anyone believe this stuff? We're supposed to believe that if you grew up in a house and were abused by your parent or caregiver and a bunch of murders and stuff happened in your neighborhood, that that has an effect on your life and your relationships with people going forward.

Is this what people really believe?

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Depends on whether or not you watch nothing but Law & Order SVU reruns and that shit on Investigation Discovery.

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Generational Trauma = SpiralStairs trying to be funny on CFMB.

Maybe he's just trying to be clever like Aaron Rodgers?

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An unjust law is no law at all--St. Augustine of Hippo

Cause tried and true
I see the light in you
Oh, can you dig in my soul?
Could you smell my whole...
life?--Gener and Deaner

PTSD is all in "your" head. Don't believe what the scientists say. Go lay down and take a nap. That was the solution that grandparents offered for centuries before this voodoo science.

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GO BEARS!!!

I thought generational trauma was more about that stuff happening to a parent or grandparent or great-grandparent and ultimately impacting you.

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You mean to tell me that if my grand-parents and parents were abused by their parents or caregivers and a bunch of murders and stuff happened in their neighborhoods that it would have an effect on their lives and their relationships with their children going forward? Get the fuck outta here!

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Psssht. The family generational advice was go for a run in the Squirrel home.

That sounds like better advice than to take a nap.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Looks like someone hasn't seen the movie Encanto yet or you wouldn't be asking questions like this.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Kind of. More so that if great grandpa SS had a rough time in the war, that may have influenced his treatment of grandpa s. He’ll internalize that along with his own experiences and it’ll impact pappy ss and therefore SS, whether or not you’ve had any direct connection to any of these people.

It’s why I’m deeply skeptical of potatoes and screen doors on submarines.

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there is providence in the fall of a sparrow

What's your point?

if you are falling into some kind of predetermination theory, then why should we hold out any hope for a person with a troubling equation of life experiences?

is the person who breaks the cycle really all that exceptional?

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Yes?

More abortions is the solution.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

isn't that an implication of some fatalistic predetermination implied by the original post?

Every abuser may have been abused but not everyone abused is an abuser (I'm not saying any of this is true, only creating a logical equation)

We are informed by our experiences but not controlled by them.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Hasn't virtually everyone been "abused" before adulthood? Is all trauma the same?

I think his point was your environment and possibly your genetics can negatively impact your development. Not that it is impossible to overcome those obstacles or that you will definitely pass them down. It was essentially an SS way to get people to be more understanding of others.

MANY times, the way we parent is a reflection of the trauma we're still holding onto and our own insecurities. If we can resolve some issues, our descendents will inherent fewer "issues".

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GO BEARS!!!

We can only surmise his point because he likes to play cute with his posts rather than state his position and stand for questioning. It's a defense mechanism clearly created through some childhood trauma.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

My guy said the same thing. If you are patient, SS will eventually get around to doing that. Unless the issue is abortion.

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GO BEARS!!!

You have to get to your point quickly here or before long we are on page 2 and thread has morphed into a fight over meeting up at an oasis. Socrates is dead.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

like I said, we are informed by our experiences. One person who gets abused abuses and the other starts a shelter.

It's so obvious that it isn't worth stating and it certainly doesn't absolve a person from his actions.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

No one said anything about absolving bad behavior.

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you didn't say anything about anything

our experiences effect us for bad or good is so saccharine it doesn't require stating

sorry for the harsh. Sometimes the Socratic style of posting fatigues me. I'm sure some of my style does the same for others

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I can't help that I like JAQing off.

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What do you believe?

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Believe belief in the soul is a delusion, ass crack is the new cleavage, stanky dank pussy is the best, the small of a woman's back requires no and should not have any decoration, the hanging curve ball, neither high fiber nor low gluten, good scotch, that the novels of Jonathan Franzen are self-indulgent, overrated crap. Epstein didn't kill himself. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing the shift and instant replay. I believe in the wet spot, russian teen anal gaping porn, returning your presents the day after Christmas for cash and I believe in receiving long, slow, deep, hard, wet blow jobs that last three days. Recalling from memory, haven't seen the movie in a minute

Trauma breeds trauma. I see a non-violent version of it every day. I'd wager about 60-70% of the people that come through my door grew up as children of divorce. MANY of them also have children who are dragged into a mess they had no part in creating. Coupled with that fact is that MANY of these people also have limited retirement savings and a mountain of debt to boot. At then end of all of it they're doubling their expenses by virtue of living in separate households.

Of course this doesn't mean that children of divorce are automatically going to grow up as failures. But even the most amicable divorce cases still result in kids having their world torn out from beneath them. The contentious cases are exponentially worse.

And that's just suburban upper-middle class people getting divorced.

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Been throwing on zoom court sessions on another computer while working from home. Mostly revenue enhancing moving violations and meth cases in these local courts. Caught a few family court sessions---sweet fancy moses family court proceedings are brutal. It's not that bad when it's a pro forma, no kids, minimal assets divorce. Mostly just a sad end to a chapter in that person's life.

Drop kids into the equation and it's insane. "He's a pedo" "She's a junkie slut unfit mother" Hours in court trying to get the slightest edge on the other parent. And they do it over and over, for years on end. Fuck that noise. People considering marriage should be required to attend or watch a week of their local family court. Marry whomever you want, but be very, very, very careful about who you throw one in. You stuck with that other person for the rest of your life, long after the lust disappears they'll still be there if you have a kid with em.

How many of these people go on to incur 6 figures of student loan debt in pursuit of worthless degrees?

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MANY

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the japanese forced the koreans to abandon their language and culture for a generation, did unspeakable horrors to them and to the chinese/filipinos and it seems as though the descendants have done just fine - especially in the usa/canada/australia.

american trauma is...? a couple refuse to compromise or the male is corrupted by porn and the woman sleeps with the first man who compliments her shoes? is that non-violent trauma?