Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.

Again, your comprehension needs work.

I'm going with Embiid still but the margin is very slim. Embiid looks like the choice for MVP if they had to choose today but he has to remain healthy.

They are head and shoulders above every other center in the game right now. Agree with that.

Is it fair to say that we were both right and wrong? Years ago when this debate started I underestimated Embiid and you underestimated Joker

Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.

Again, your comprehension needs work.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

I don't think he is ready to be compared to "Akeem", but definitely great.

Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.

Again, your comprehension needs work.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

At age 27 Akeem averaged 24 pts, a league leading 14 rebs, and a league leading 4.6 blocks per game

Thats quite the player and he did it while playing in every game that season.

Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.

Again, your comprehension needs work.

He also played 38 minutes per game as well. What do you think Embiid's Numbers look like if he played 38 minutes per game? I think currently he is avg 31-32 minutes per game.

Trae Young will be a bust. Book It!

you're trying to brush aside a big factor in evaluating these players. There's a reason Embiid doesn't play as many games or as many minutes as Hakeem. He physically can't handle it. So you can't point to Embiid's less games played and less minutes played and say what if he played more because as we all know by now, he can't play more. His body can't handle it.

Part of what makes Hakeem a clearly better player is that he could put up those gaudy stats without rest days and without having his minutes monitored by a team of nerds on laptops in a luxury box.

You ask what would happen if Embiid played more minutes and more games? I think the answer is obvious. His body would break down and his production would go down as a result.

Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.

Again, your comprehension needs work.

Even at 31 minutes per game Embiid is avg 29 and 11 pregame with 5 assists. That ain't chop liver.

And even he isn't a "better player at the same stage" (debatable) he is at the very least "comparable".

And my original point is that he is "the closest thing to Olajuwon" since Olajuwon.

If he isn't then who is?

And by the way Embiid's Per 36 stats dwarf Olajuwon's offensively and no "increased minutes" isn't the only way to evaluate who the better player happens to be.

Trae Young will be a bust. Book It!

I agree with all that (except the per 36 stats since those are useless). He is definitely the closest thing to Hakeem since Hakeem. But, I'm not going to give Embiid any credit for playing less games and less minutes than Hakeem. I hold that against Embiid. And I refuse to listen to hypotheticals about what if Embiid played more because as we know by now that's bullshit when talking about Embiid.

But I agree that he's awesome. Just not in Hakeem's class and IMO will never be there and a big part of that is because Embiid's body can't handle what Hakeem went through.

Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.

Again, your comprehension needs work.

Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.

Again, your comprehension needs work.

Yeah I had Joker as a clear #2 whereas now he's more like a 1A. I was WRONG about him being a "decided #2"

However if Embiid had played more 10-15 more games last season he likely would be headed towards back to back MVPs.

He is trending heavily towards "best player in the league status" the way he's going. But he has to play in more games though. Which he is doing this season.

Also you believed it was "laughable" to compare him to Akeem 3-4 years ago. Might be time to say that I was "right" about that one as well.

Laughable may be too strong but Akeem is one of the 10 best players to ever play. I'm not putting Embiid or Joker there yet

Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.

Again, your comprehension needs work.

I'm not talking about numbers, I haven't mentioned them at all. I believe you underestimate how good Akeem was.

Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.

Again, your comprehension needs work.

I literally bumped this thread to say Embiid is fucking awesome.

In general I don't compare guys to top 10 players of all time until they've earned the accolades. Let Embiid get his mvp and get a ring and then he can move into that type of conversation.

Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.

Again, your comprehension needs work.

For me it will be too late then. I don't like Monday Morning Quarterbacking styled arguments. They are boring. Anyone can state the obvious. Sort of like your "Embiid Is Fucking Awesome Yo" shit currently.

I prefer to get ahead of the train on stuff like this.

Me too. That's why I said Jokic was the best center in the league before anybody and then he went out and proved me right.

Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.

Again, your comprehension needs work.

You don't have him.rated right if you think he is better than Embiid. Embiid avg. 23 and 11 and is in a different stratosphere than him defensively. Embiid is dominant defensively.

Jokic is the worst defending starting Center in the league. If not the worst then in the conversation for worst.

NBA announces 2020-21 All-Defensive First and Second teams
Kia Defensive Player of the Year Rudy Gobert and 76ers guard Ben Simmons dominate the voting as unanimous selections.
Official release
June 14, 2021 6:09 PM
NEW YORK – Utah Jazz center Rudy Gobert, the 2020-21 Kia NBA Defensive Player of the Year, and Philadelphia 76ers guard Ben Simmons lead the 2020-21 NBA All-Defensive First Team, the NBA announced today. Both players received NBA All-Defensive First Team votes on all 100 ballots to finish with 200 points each.

Joining Gobert and Simmons on the NBA All-Defensive First Team are Golden State Warriors forward Draymond Green (176 points; 80 First Team votes) and Milwaukee Bucks guard Jrue Holiday (157 points; 65 First Team votes) and forward Giannis Antetokounmpo (135 points; 43 first Team votes).


Gobert, the Kia NBA Defensive Player of the Year for the third time in the last four seasons, has been named to the NBA All-Defensive First Team for the fifth season in a row. This marks the second straight First Team selection for Simmons, the runner-up for Kia NBA Defensive Player of the Year this season. Simmons helped the 76ers finish with the NBA’s second-best defensive rating in the regular season, one spot ahead of the Gobert-led Jazz.

Green has been selected to the NBA All-Defensive First Team for the fourth time to go with two Second Team honors. Holiday is a First Team honoree for the second time. Antetokounmpo, the 2019-20 Kia NBA Defensive Player of the Year and a two-time Kia NBA Most Valuable Player, has earned his third consecutive NBA All-Defensive First Team selection.

The 2020-21 NBA All-Defensive Second Team consists of Miami Heat forward Bam Adebayo (111 points) and guard Jimmy Butler (111), 76ers center Joel Embiid (87) and guard Matisse Thybulle (63), and LA Clippers forward Kawhi Leonard (43).

Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.

Again, your comprehension needs work.

Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.

Again, your comprehension needs work.

Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.

Again, your comprehension needs work.

I just wish he could carry this into the post season. Instead of getting hurt like he always does.

Dustin Dopirak
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Mar 18
@DustinDopirak
Carlisle: "Embiid, right now, he's probably the MVP with what their team is doing and how he's elevated his game. He's as difficult a guy to game plan for as there is in the game. Giannis is crazy ridiculous. Jokic is, same, and this guy may be even more difficult."

Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.

Again, your comprehension needs work.

The statistics that point to Joker being better than Embiid are racist.

Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.

Again, your comprehension needs work.