veganfan21 wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
New Regime
GM: Unknown hire with no discernible approach or strategy
HC: Above-average DC but otherwise unremarkable
OC: Novice with unremarkable job history
Is this how "big city" franchises run things now? Just hire a bunch of saps who accept offers because they're impressed with the prestige of the franchise?
There is no home run executive and/or coach in any of these hirings. It all sucks
You said the other day that one of your top options for the Bears was to give full control of the franchise to--wait for it--Doug Pederson!
I'm not sure what to make of the Getsy hire, but I sure don't see ANYONE rushing to land Pederson as their coach--let alone place him atop their football operation--a move that you have mystifyingly championed. While there are valid concerns about the Bears' hiring process (though not necessarily those you have noted, as your initial argument in this thread is demonstrably ignorant), the Bears appear to have chosen organizational leaders who are more highly regarded in NFL circles than Doug Pederson. If your criticism of the Bears' hires has now shifted to the idea that they are largely anonymous or nondescript, that certainly doesn't seem to be the case given the number of interviews they have received compared to Pederson. While it may be true that Doug Pederson is a very familiar name among football fans, he doesn't appear to command much respect in the NFL. He was considered by only two teams for a HC position--the Bears and Jaguars--and neither team deemed him a finalist for their opening. It appears, then, that the guy you want to be the alpha and omega of the Bears will be lucky to garner any type of NFL employment next season. The Bears may indeed be a second-tier organization, but your thinking in this thread is inconsistent, uninformed, and unintentionally hilarious.
It's true that I would want Pederson as GM/HC over what we have now, but that wouldn't be my first option, so to say I've championed that move is a bit misleading. Pederson does have a SB win on his resume, a win he got by starting the Bears' third-string QB. Poles is known for arriving to work early while Eberflus finished 10th in defense.
To say the Bears have "chosen organizational leaders who are more highly regarded in NFL circles" is either standard Bears apologetics at best or just a strange opinion at worst. It's clear that the Bears have cast a wide net that is heavily influenced by the new-age DEI HR policies they appear to have adapted wholesale. While I think it's great that these new policies result in more exposure for minority candidates, I don't think I'd conflate a candidate being interviewed with a candidate being interesting, like you have.
To be clear, what I wanted are hires who've demonstrably made a difference elsewhere. I don't think we have that here.
There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that Pederson would be a good choice as GM. Further, his record as a head coach is also clouded since Reich was considered the brains of the Eagles offense, and the team declined after he left. This opinion seems to be shared in the league since there is virtually no interest in him as a head coach. In contrast, there was much more interest in Poles as a GM candidate: he was rumored to be Minnesota's top choice before the Bears hired him and has been a finalist for other GM positions as well. Given his selection as a finalist for multiple teams, it's clear that interest in Poles was more than perfunctory or pro forma. Similarly, Eberflus was a finalist for the Jacksonville position, whereas Pederson was not. If Pederson is, as you claim, held in higher regard than Poles or Eberflus, why hasn't he been identified as a finalist for any position? And why hasn't he been interviewed by more than two teams, neither of whom allowed him to advance beyond a preliminary interview? Now, you can continue to bizarrely argue that interviews are not a reliable indicator of interest if you like. But if Pederson is such a stellar HC candidate, why is he going to be working as a coordinator next year (that is, if he's lucky)?
Do you really want to have a discussion about Payton?
He's under contract with the Saints and is apparently going to work as an analyst before returning to the NFL, assuming that he ever does. To suggest that Payton would be a realistic possibility for any NFL team right now strikes me as being seriously detached from reality. But if you want to run with the thesis that the Bears are second-rate because they--like every other team in the NFL--failed to pursue Payton, then go ahead and embarrass yourself.
Harbaugh is obviously a more interesting possibility. Practically everyone on the board--including me--wanted him, so you're hardly stating something unique in this regard. Since Adofo-Mensah apparently has a strong relationship with Harbaugh, we'll soon find out if he ever was a realistic possibility for any NFL team.
Again, the problem with the Bears search process was not rooted in their failure to select a "big name"; rather, it was their choice to privilege the coaching position over the GM position that artificially circumscribed their organizational reset and prevented the team from developing an authentically new vision for itself.
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