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The Vikings prove to be a dumber organization than the Bears by bringing him in an interview and then passing.

Now, the next coach of the Vikings has to coach against hypothetical Jim Harbaugh.


Do we know for sure that the Vikings passed on Harbaugh? Or did he pass on them?

I thought that they hired Adofo-Mensah in part due to his relationship with Harbaugh. I wonder if their new GM oversold the Wilfs on that connection. In any event, hiring a McVay lackey as the new Vikings head coach doesn't seem like a stellar backup plan, especially for a self-proclaimed "detail-obsessed" person like Adofo-Mensah.

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The Vikings prove to be a dumber organization than the Bears by bringing him in an interview and then passing.

Now, the next coach of the Vikings has to coach against hypothetical Jim Harbaugh.


Do we know for sure that the Vikings passed on Harbaugh? Or did he pass on them?

I thought that they hired Adofo-Mensah in part due to his relationship with Harbaugh. I wonder if their new GM oversold the Wilfs on that connection. In any event, hiring a McVay lackey as the new Vikings head coach doesn't seem like a stellar backup plan, especially for a self-proclaimed "detail-obsessed" person like Adofo-Mensah.

It is being worded that the Vikings chose not to give Harbaugh a job offer even though he wanted one.

Good luck recruiting players to Michigan.

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It looks like things are breaking the Bears' way for a division title in 2022:

1)Rodgers and Adams are likely GONE from Green Bay.
2)An anonymous McVay neophyte will be the Vikings head coach.
3)Matt Nagy is apparently going to be running the Detroit offense (condolences to Chus).

The Bears don't need to get better. The other teams just need to get worse!

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Chris Carter said the Bears spoke with Harbaugh but he wanted a Gruden deal and the Bears didn't want to do that.

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Chris Carter said the Bears spoke with Harbaugh but he wanted a Gruden deal and the Bears didn't want to do that.


I guess we're to assume that the same thing happened with the Vikings?

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Chris Carter said the Bears spoke with Harbaugh but he wanted a Gruden deal and the Bears didn't want to do that.

Let's just enjoy the Vikings failure today instead of the Bears failure of a week ago.

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Chris Carter said the Bears spoke with Harbaugh but he wanted a Gruden deal and the Bears didn't want to do that.


I guess we're to assume that the same thing happened with the Vikings?


Yep! If you listened to Kwesi talk about the kinda coach he was looking for, he was describing Harbaugh. Either Wilf passed or Harbaugh was trying to use the Vikings as leverage.

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Chris Carter said the Bears spoke with Harbaugh but he wanted a Gruden deal and the Bears didn't want to do that.


I guess we're to assume that the same thing happened with the Vikings?


Yep! If you listened to Kwesi talk about the kinda coach he was looking for, he was describing Harbaugh. Either Wilf passed or Harbaugh was trying to use the Vikings as leverage.


That's the speculation I've heard on some Vikings podcasts, that Harbaugh was using the Vikings. I think though that's a bit of face saving. The best thing the Vikings can do is put out a short statement and move on.

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It looks like things are breaking the Bears' way for a division title in 2022:

1)Rodgers and Adams are likely GONE from Green Bay.
2)An anonymous McVay neophyte will be the Vikings head coach.
3)Matt Nagy is apparently going to be running the Detroit offense (condolences to Chus).

The Bears don't need to get better. The other teams just need to get worse!

Winning by default is the sweetest victory of all.

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Nas wrote:
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Chris Carter said the Bears spoke with Harbaugh but he wanted a Gruden deal and the Bears didn't want to do that.


I guess we're to assume that the same thing happened with the Vikings?


Yep! If you listened to Kwesi talk about the kinda coach he was looking for, he was describing Harbaugh. Either Wilf passed or Harbaugh was trying to use the Vikings as leverage.


Kwesi seems like a bit of an overconfident douche who thinks his structured decision-making process is nearly infallible. Temperamentally, he's quite different from Poles, who seems to be approaching his job from a place of anger and is eager to talk about how violently he wants the team to play. I'm really beginning to like that guy. He's the closest we'll ever get to having Olin Kreutz as GM.

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wouldn't you have already known the price and length of the contract demand before bringing him in. The Bears did

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
It looks like things are breaking the Bears' way for a division title in 2022:

1)Rodgers and Adams are likely GONE from Green Bay.
2)An anonymous McVay neophyte will be the Vikings head coach.
3)Matt Nagy is apparently going to be running the Detroit offense (condolences to Chus).

The Bears don't need to get better. The other teams just need to get worse!

Winning by default is the sweetest victory of all.


Some people think it is sad that Bears fans were thrilled with the Packer playoff loss. All I know is that it felt good.

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wouldn't you have already known the price and length of the contract demand before bringing him in. The Bears did


I wouldn't be surprised if Kwesi led the Vikings to believe he could persuade Harbaugh to accept a lesser deal by using their "relationship" as leverage.

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Chris Carter said the Bears spoke with Harbaugh but he wanted a Gruden deal and the Bears didn't want to do that.


I guess we're to assume that the same thing happened with the Vikings?


Yep! If you listened to Kwesi talk about the kinda coach he was looking for, he was describing Harbaugh. Either Wilf passed or Harbaugh was trying to use the Vikings as leverage.


Kwesi seems like a bit of an overconfident douche who thinks his structured decision-making process is nearly infallible. Temperamentally, he's quite different from Poles, who seems to be approaching his job from a place of anger and is eager to talk about how violently he wants the team to play. I'm really beginning to like that guy. He's the closest we'll ever get to having Olin Kreutz as GM.


It's interesting how people can see the same thing and have a completely different opinion.

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I love the Jerry Burns photo btw. Epic rant..


I love Anderson. But it was a dumb fucking play when his shoe was coming off, up to the line of scrimmage, we were hollering to take [a] timeout. We had a fucking trap play called, and his fucking shoe comes off.


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Chris Carter said the Bears spoke with Harbaugh but he wanted a Gruden deal and the Bears didn't want to do that.


I guess we're to assume that the same thing happened with the Vikings?


Yep! If you listened to Kwesi talk about the kinda coach he was looking for, he was describing Harbaugh. Either Wilf passed or Harbaugh was trying to use the Vikings as leverage.


Kwesi seems like a bit of an overconfident douche who thinks his structured decision-making process is nearly infallible. Temperamentally, he's quite different from Poles, who seems to be approaching his job from a place of anger and is eager to talk about how violently he wants the team to play. I'm really beginning to like that guy. He's the closest we'll ever get to having Olin Kreutz as GM.


It's interesting how people can see the same thing and have a completely different opinion.


I still haven't had the chance to finish watching Kwesi's press conference, so maybe my initial opinion of him will change. But I feel like his understanding of football is excessively reliant on (and confident in) abstraction and process, form over substance. He is very much a creature of the professional-managerial class.

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So the Vikings passed on him we have confirmation of that? Or Harbaugh just didnt really want to go to the NFL

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So the Vikings passed on him we have confirmation of that? Or Harbaugh just didnt really want to go to the NFL


No offer was made to him supposedly. I'm sure more will come out.

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The Vikings clearly wanted to offer Harbaugh the job. But he must have wanted too much power, too much money, or too much power and too much money. It seems like Kwesi and the Wilfs got clowned.

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The Vikings clearly wanted to offer Harbaugh the job. But he must have wanted too much power, too much money, or too much power and too much money. It seems like Kwesi and the Wilfs got clowned.

I dont think he ever had any intention of taking an NFL job. Maybe he likes being chased.

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So the Vikings passed on him we have confirmation of that? Or Harbaugh just didnt really want to go to the NFL


No offer was made to him supposedly. I'm sure more will come out.


That just saves face for all involved. Terms were discussed and well known. Just like the Bears five minute phone call.

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So the Vikings passed on him we have confirmation of that? Or Harbaugh just didnt really want to go to the NFL


No offer was made to him supposedly. I'm sure more will come out.


That just saves face for all involved. Terms were discussed and well known. Just like the Bears five minute phone call.


Yeah, I don't think you get on a flight unless it's close. The gap between the Bears and Harbaugh was wide enough that it only took a brief call to end talks.

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Nas wrote:
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So the Vikings passed on him we have confirmation of that? Or Harbaugh just didnt really want to go to the NFL


No offer was made to him supposedly. I'm sure more will come out.


That just saves face for all involved. Terms were discussed and well known. Just like the Bears five minute phone call.


Yeah, I don't think you get on a flight unless it's close. The gap between the Bears and Harbaugh was wide enough that it only took a brief call to end talks.


I think that Kwesi believed he could talk Harbaugh down from his opening demands. But Harbaugh clowned him, leaving the Vikings stuck with McVay's Valet and Kwesi feeling queasy.

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It looks like things are breaking the Bears' way for a division title in 2022:

1)Rodgers and Adams are likely GONE from Green Bay.
2)An anonymous McVay neophyte will be the Vikings head coach.
3)Matt Nagy is apparently going to be running the Detroit offense (condolences to Chus).

The Bears don't need to get better. The other teams just need to get worse!



Oddly I woke up and saw some blog on my feed stating that Nagy was in running for Vikings OC as well. I didn't not expect him to get that level of job this off season. Maybe for a lame duck coach.


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You know you lost when Division Rival Bears fans are breathing a sigh of relief that you didn't get Harbaugh. Good luck with McVay's caddy.


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You know you lost when Division Rival Bears fans are breathing a side of relief that you didn't get Harbaugh. Good luck with McVay's caddy.


Thinking about Harbaugh running that offense and Fangio running the defense had me sweating.

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You know you lost when Division Rival Bears fans are breathing a side of relief that you didn't get Harbaugh. Good luck with McVay's caddy.


Thinking about Harbaugh running that offense and Fangio running the defense had me sweating.


Definitely. Fangio could still surface in Minnesota, though. Let's hope not.

What are the remaining DC openings?

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You know you lost when Division Rival Bears fans are breathing a side of relief that you didn't get Harbaugh. Good luck with McVay's caddy.


Thinking about Harbaugh running that offense and Fangio running the defense had me sweating.


Definitely. Fangio could still surface in Minnesota, though. Let's hope not.

What are the remaining DC openings?


The Raiders and pretty much every team that hasn't hired a head coach.

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Yikes! Gotta love the Vikings!

According to ESPN’s Courtney Cronin, the two sides had completely different mentalities from the very beginning. Harbaugh approached Wednesday’s meeting as basically a done deal, while the Vikings were simply conducting another interview as they have with every other candidate.

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You know you lost when Division Rival Bears fans are breathing a side of relief that you didn't get Harbaugh. Good luck with McVay's caddy.


Thinking about Harbaugh running that offense and Fangio running the defense had me sweating.


Definitely. Fangio could still surface in Minnesota, though. Let's hope not.

What are the remaining DC openings?


The Raiders and pretty much every team that hasn't hired a head coach.


It will be interesting to see what happens with the Indianapolis DC opening.

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