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 Post subject: Re: Grocery Shelves
PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:27 pm 
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Cameras everywhere

What? At Amazon fresh I think you just walk out with your cart full of stuff and somehow it checks you out. At least that’s what somebody told me I’ve never been there I don’t know if it’s true


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Cameras everywhere

What? At Amazon fresh I think you just walk out with your cart full of stuff and somehow it checks you out. At least that’s what somebody told me I’ve never been there I don’t know if it’s true


Relax.

There are cameras recording your every move in an Amazon fresh. You don’t have to check out because it allows you in only after you show an Amazon ID attached to your credit card. I have shopped and Amazon fresh once, that’s how it works.

I think the entry is done through an app for groceries that is attached to the amazon.com app

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 10:48 pm 
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Spaulding wrote:
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Cameras everywhere

What? At Amazon fresh I think you just walk out with your cart full of stuff and somehow it checks you out. At least that’s what somebody told me I’ve never been there I don’t know if it’s true

Now I had to see where there is an Amazon Fresh near my dad - i knew there was one somewhere because Whole Foods stopped doing free grocery delivery even with Prime.

I didn't realize that the abandoned grocery store at 63rd/Cass had become one, I haven't had reason to go that far south on Cass for a while.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 10:52 pm 
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Relax.

There are cameras recording your every move in an Amazon fresh. You don’t have to check out because it allows you in only after you show an Amazon ID attached to your credit card. I have shopped and Amazon fresh once, that’s how it works.

I think the entry is done through an app for groceries that is attached to the amazon.com app


Really? I can't conceptualize it.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 11:44 pm 
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Spaulding wrote:
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Relax.

There are cameras recording your every move in an Amazon fresh. You don’t have to check out because it allows you in only after you show an Amazon ID attached to your credit card. I have shopped and Amazon fresh once, that’s how it works.

I think the entry is done through an app for groceries that is attached to the amazon.com app


Really? I can't conceptualize it.

There’s at least one convenience shop that is set up similarly at Midway (maybe it was O’Hare). You scan a credit card when you walk in and it charges you when you walk out. It was kind of weird but it worked. Just like anything else, I’m sure it’ll become second nature when they become more prevalent.

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 Post subject: Re: Grocery Shelves
PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:21 am 
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People don't write the orders anymore. Ordering is computerizd. The shelf and overstock have be to properly counted in the system. There could be 10 cases of a particular canned soup in the system that don't exist. Or a pull sheet from an order says to pull a needed case out of the overstock for the shelf. It doesn't happen. But, the computer says now the shelf is full when it's really empty. That's why when you go online to check something is in stock. You get there and the shelf is empty. System works fine with a good staff. Disaster with a lazy staff. Also loads are always late during the holidays and big snows.

Also managers could be cutting payroll with skeleton crews.to pad their bonuses. Loads could be sitting in the backroom with nobody to work it.


I would think that for at least bigger grocery chains that's connected to check out? How does the Amazon just walk out with your cart work?

These stores are having a hard time with the worker pool drying up. Amazon is raising pay to steal workers from other chains.

Every grocery store needs accurate stock inventory to function. Amazon virtual checkout still deducts your purchases from it's inventory.

https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/retail ... t-shopping


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 Post subject: Re: Grocery Shelves
PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:11 pm 
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I went to the Jewels and they only had honey butter crescent rolls and no other rolls or biscuits of any kind! Previous trips there have seen them out of salad, yogurt, cottage cheese, mangoes, poblanos, whole chickens, Coca-Cola varietals, frozen breakfast sandwiches, and other things. It is pretty much every time I go shopping they are missing entire products, and no, it wasn't like this before the Covid stuff was going on.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:07 pm 
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Rfid tags were supposed to replace barcodes, and would enable queless checkout. Its weird they never caught on, but i guess its a money thing. Its cheaper to setup cameras and using ai tracking.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:50 am 
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I went to Woodmans this morning and there were a few shelves that looked light but I also was there at 4:30am and they were stocking shelves so hard to say if it was just because they hadn't gotten new stock out yet. That is also a part of it, not having the workforce to get the product out. I work with a guy who said the grocery store was hiring starting at $15 and hour and were paying time and a half for anyone wanting to work weekends. That is crazy good money for that kind of work.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:17 am 
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
Seacrest wrote:

Relax.

There are cameras recording your every move in an Amazon fresh. You don’t have to check out because it allows you in only after you show an Amazon ID attached to your credit card. I have shopped and Amazon fresh once, that’s how it works.

I think the entry is done through an app for groceries that is attached to the amazon.com app


Really? I can't conceptualize it.

It was kind of weird but it worked. Just like anything else, I’m sure it’ll become second nature when they become more prevalent.


Yes it did work. And it was strange for sure.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:08 am 
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Still feeling the effects of the fall/winter Covid surge in most places, when you have limited staff to begin with and 1/3 to 1/2 of your existing workforce tests positive and is out the resulting lack of human beings eventually effects productivity.

Good news is that we are definitely seeing a slowdown in our facility, the past week has been atypical in that the ED has cleared out and we have been staffed at almost par levels for the first time in a year. That said, we are leery of this slowdown because we have seen it spike frequently over the past year and a half almost without warning, so will not be actually comfortable until late spring at the earliest.

Have family that works for a major logistics company, and he says they have a very difficult time even getting people to apply and when they try to train people to move up from the small trucks to semi's most of the people fail the training and they pay more and have better benefits than most of their competitors. The delivery aspect which has been stressed due to several factors will likely continue to lag, not sure how they fix this because most kids have been taught in public schools that blue collar work is dirty and undesirably by teachers who make far less than the guy I know who works in the industry.

We have been talking for the past few months on what the Post COVID world looks like for us in health care, and we see that once the peak ends there will be tons of red ink for healthcare systems that paid out tons of money for travel contracts to cover shortages.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:20 pm 
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I had some time to kill waiting while I let my dad napped, so I drove an extra couple of miles to check out this Amazon store. It seems like a stripped down Whole Foods with a few more name brands. Not a horrible experience, but they had a fair amount of empty shelves of name brand stuff (soft drinks were very sparse, for example).

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:53 pm 
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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
I had some time to kill waiting while I let my dad napped, so I drove an extra couple of miles to check out this Amazon store. It seems like a stripped down Whole Foods with a few more name brands. Not a horrible experience, but they had a fair amount of empty shelves of name brand stuff (soft drinks were very sparse, for example).

Across multiple threads, Chet talks about visiting his Dad—I think you even come in from North Carolina or something to do it.

This probably belongs in “shoutouts,” but I really respect you for caring for him like that. My Dad was in assisted living before he passed a few years ago, and it sucked to take a few hours every weekend to visit him. Those places are just depressing, and there’s not much to talk about between naps.

Anyway, you’re a good son—I hope my kids visit me some day if I make it that long.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:18 pm 
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Heisenberg wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
I had some time to kill waiting while I let my dad napped, so I drove an extra couple of miles to check out this Amazon store. It seems like a stripped down Whole Foods with a few more name brands. Not a horrible experience, but they had a fair amount of empty shelves of name brand stuff (soft drinks were very sparse, for example).

Across multiple threads, Chet talks about visiting his Dad—I think you even come in from North Carolina or something to do it.

This probably belongs in “shoutouts,” but I really respect you for caring for him like that. My Dad was in assisted living before he passed a few years ago, and it sucked to take a few hours every weekend to visit him. Those places are just depressing, and there’s not much to talk about between naps.

Anyway, you’re a good son—I hope my kids visit me some day if I make it that long.

I appreciate that. He is having some challenges and I've been having to fly up for a couple of days weekly since the beginning of December. He's still in the independent side for now but he will probably have to permanently move to the assisted side later this year.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:36 pm 
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There are cameras recording your every move in an Amazon fresh. You don’t have to check out because it allows you in only after you show an Amazon ID attached to your credit card.

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