Also important to know how they define rape. My guess is it's not what one traditionally thinks of when they hear the word rape.

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Her own alleged rape is indicative of the problem. She was drunk, didn't resist, didn't report it to anyone, then partied with the guy the next day. He wasn't her boyfriend, she wasn't living with him, she wasn't dependent on him, he wasn't her boss, etc. I'm sorry ladies, but if you don't report a crime (or what you think is a crime), what the fuck do you think is supposed to happen?

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Bernsie just spent some time on Bauer. He claimed to have evidence that is somewhere on record that Bauer punched her unconscious, choked, raped and sodomized her. He states MLB "MUST" suspend him minimum one year.

Now I am no Bauer supporter but how can Bernsie say that and Bauer's statement and lawyer completely contradict that? If there is hard evidence would not the case still be ongoing? He mentioned something I did not hear clearly either about the judge is some problematic judge.

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Well if there's one thing I know for sure is that Dan Bernstein certainly knows more about the case than the Orange County DA and certainly more than the Buffalo DA in the Kane case.

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he said the same shit about Kane. that he had sources close to/involved in the ongoing proceedings that had evidence not released to the public. hes full of shit.

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Yeah he was making the case that a whole bunch of things that sound like actual crimes aren’t disputed. I can’t imagine that’s true.

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Years after the Kane case, Rosenbloom claimed there was evidence that Kane was guilty. If that's true, why didn't he go to the police with it? Why would he keep that evidence to himself, after telling the listening audience he knew of it, and let a rapist go free?

I don't think there is any dispute that he did the acts.

The crime occurs if it was unwanted.

It is was wanted, it's just another kink that some of us might find unbelievably exotic, but a kink nonetheless.

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The stuff Bernstein described about beating somebody unconscious and then assaulting them sound criminal.

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There are clubs out there where you can go to get beaten. One is called Wrigley Field

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rape isnt black and white. that seems to be the main problem with why rape is tough to prosecute given the standard for conviction is beyond a reasonable doubt

Well, some would say the joke writes itself.

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It's going to need to if the writers are on strike...

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julie is capable of screwing up a joke that wrote itself

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...and her article on Bauer today is basically talking about Law and Order SVU and Ben Rothlisberger.

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There is little doubt these kinds of estimates are based all or in-part on the same kind of joke science that brought us the "1 in 5" statistic.

Incredibly broad definition of "sexual assault" asked in a leading way of survey respondents + incredibly low survey response rate + hyper-self-selecting sample + counting every incredibly vague incident of "sexual assault" as an "unreported rape" = nonsensical statistics such as these.

She can't even keep her fake stats straight.


(Also, "Incent"? LOL, Senior Editor.)

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This came out when the CA woman requested a restraining order: “Bauer's attorney conceded that he choked the petitioner until she was unconscious and was violent to her during sex. He himself invoked the Fifth Amendment. He was not 'found innocent.'

There's a lot of other stuff that certainly paints an ugly picture of Bauer - including threatening text messages and other social media posts. There's also (apparently) some pictures of an Ohio woman and at least one medical report that fit into the abuse narrative. Clearly proving it was rape in these cases is a tough task. Still might be enough there for MLB to suspend him however.

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Don’t doubt it. Bernsie we al should not be blaming judges and calling for imprisonment however.

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Trevor Bauer is a POS. Who can objectively argue different?

Agree. So is July.

Being a POS isn't breaking the law.

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All the broads who specifically requested he rough them up?

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He hates half the population. Not just jews.

Nobody who is sane.

And he is an illustration of why any attempt to mandate "proof of consent" (via prior signed consent form/contract) is going to backfire. Bauer knew that she had pretty much consented, through her texts, to very rough sex, so he probably figured he could take it beyond what she really wanted and then he would have evidence that she asked for it. What he didn't seem to realize is that even if you have the legal right (which still seems dubious), everybody is going to see you as a psychopath.

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I give zero fucks what was requested.

Sounds like he's got a lot in common with ltg.

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lots of continued speculation about what did or did not occur before, during, and after these sexual encounters in this thread. these thoughts should be posted on twitter in hopes of being included in a Deadspin Think Piece as the "pulse of the common man".

absurd.

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He should post here.

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I'm not commenting on Trevor Bauer's character, his quality as a human being, or what actually happened between him and this woman or any other woman. I will say that if there are women out there who like being roughed up during sex, I suppose that unlike Nardi, I don't have a problem with them finding a man to do it. I don't know. I've never given it much thought. It seems fucked up to me, but so does the obsession that some guys have with anal or watching two chicks go at it. We all have different sexual proclivities. I guess in a time when lesbians are claiming to be men and getting surgery to go from being dykey broads to ugly straight dudes, it's hard for me to find anything to be that outre. But hey, I'm just an old man whose favorite position is missionary.

But I want to address the part about Bauer being mean or "threatening" women on social media. I wouldn't call myself "extremely online" but I know my way around Twitter enough that I'm aware of a niche brand that I would call "Woke Feminist Baseball Twitter." Just the White Sox section would include people like @LWilz, @Keelin_12ft, and @scuriiosa (who is a super cute Filipinx). These are the kind of people who went into orbit when the Sox hired La Russa. Basically, they're all dan bernstein in yoga pants.

Anyway, Bauer's reputation for being outspoken on Twitter is well known. But that's kind of the point of Twitter, isn't it? You've got something to say and you say it. Sometimes other people fire on you. You can ignore it, you can cry like Julie does and try to label anyone with a different opinion than yours a "troll", or you can fire back. You pays your money and you takes your choice. Bauer's reputation was cemented with the exchange described here: https://nypost.com/2019/01/08/trevor-ba ... ung-woman/

I don't find anything about that Twitter beef particularly unique or significant other than that it involved a major league pitcher. But if a woman were going to take a shot at putting the squeeze on a wealthy athlete- and I am not suggesting that's what happened here although there are some questions- Bauer would have been a perfect candidate. Because from the moment the story hit the news, Woke Feminist Baseball Twitter was going to get right to work.

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