based on what? What has he done to be dirtier than the rest?

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

He was mean to those college kids after he gave them ice cream. 40 years later and it still keeps bernsie up at night.

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Probably based on his winning resume.

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not nearly the hate for Self (outside of illini fans), as an example, despite an objectively higher level of dirty and a lower level of success at a similarly (if not higher) level of elite basketball school

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

And K built his program. And stayed there for 40 years.

Most of his peers would’ve left Duke after the first good year to climb the ladder.

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I forget the kids' names(Chris Duhon, Thomas Hill and a more recent big man?), but there were at least two players whose mothers suddenly found jobs as friends of the program starting in the nineties when he was mouthing holier than thou crap. Plus I'm skeptical of his recruitment of Zion.

And when he had a suddenly average team suddenly he had back issues never heard of again. All while quitting on his team. When Kerr had similar issues, he at least had a team rolling.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

I don't know exactly why K gets a special beef. He's a dime a dozen. Is it because he got all the blue chip white kids? Who also happened to be privileged twerps? And who also got special treatment from ESPN because opposing fans were mean?

Not THAT, I get. I get it so much I want to pound the hardwood.

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Wattabout Kodak Black?

Honestly I was sick when Bobby Hurley got hurt in his truck crash as he was one of my all-time favorite players and I liked Laettner a lot. But Billy Packer and Vitale made me ill with their over the top garbage. Similar to the Brady als now.

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Jesus H Christ. Who likes Laettner? He's the goddam Duke poster boy and an inexplicable Dream Teamer.

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Wattabout Kodak Black?

The kid was a winner who I thought would go anywhere to get into a good pickup game. City, suburbs, didn't matter. I always respected him. But you're right about him not belonging on the Dream Team over Shaq.

And the Duke poster boy to me was always a dipshit like Grayson Allen.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

Does Coach K's 1991 championship victory over UNLV count since that game was fixed?

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With a clown like Greg Anthony and his hot tub buddies (including Anderson Hunt iirc) I always wondered. Worst game in history except Georgetown Villanova. Now I'm sick thinking about them. Ugh.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

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There is no reason is the world for Duke University to have developed into a blue blood basketball and academic institution over the past 40 years...but it did. Wake Forest was/is essentially the same school as Duke and it did not see that same treatment. I guess it was luck.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

While Wake has a wealthy segment of their alumni base, it's still a relatively tiny school in comparison. Especially with influential alumni.

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NCAA Tournament Runner-up
1964, 1978, 1986, 1990, 1994, 1999

NCAA Tournament Elite Eight
1960, 1963, 1964, 1966, 1978, 1980, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2004, 2010, 2013, 2015, 2018, 2019, 2022

Conference champions
1938, 1941, 1942, 1944, 1946, 1960, 1963, 1964, 1966, 1978, 1980, 1986, 1988, 1992, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2017, 2019

Looks like an 11 year dry spell is all. Looks blue blood. Not UCLA or Kentucky, but pretty damn good.

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Wattabout Kodak Black?

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look at that poor leadership as he sets an example by shaking every single opponents hands after a tough loss.

in what is an all too common occurrence, the headline doesn't reflect what happened in the video

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

i don't really care too much about Coach K... but this GIF always makes me chuckle

All but one player walked off the court.

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HE didn't show poor leadership, which is the first line, what is presumably used to grab you to click. His best player is there shaking hands as well. You know who else isn't in the line shaking hands?
Hubert Davis. COACH K, COACH K, COACH K...

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.