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I'll defer to your expertise on being petty, but don't ascribe your feelings to me.

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That text isn't even accurate.

-Haskins was a first round pic, so he didn't struggle to catch on.

-Haskins was hit by a truck, not a car.

There is a proper way journalistically to write an obit.

It's easily found on google.

I’m going to repost because it got lost: First line of OJ’s obituary:

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2. Acquitted murderer.

What’s your choice if he gets hit by a truck tomorrow? Both are equally true.


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Heisenberg wrote:
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I'll defer to your expertise on being petty, but don't ascribe your feelings to me.

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That text isn't even accurate.

-Haskins was a first round pic, so he didn't struggle to catch on.

-Haskins was hit by a truck, not a car.

There is a proper way journalistically to write an obit.

It's easily found on google.

I’m going to repost because it got lost: First line of OJ’s obituary:

1. Heisman trophy winner, long-time NFL player, announcer, actor.
2. Acquitted murderer.

What’s your choice if he gets hit by a truck tomorrow? Both are equally true.


Re-read my post above.

There is a format to writing an obit. Schefter didn't know it, or chose not to follow it.

Secondly, I think we can both agree that Schefter's main purpose was to break the untimely news of Haskins death.

With that being the case, Haskins career had NOTHING at all to do with how he died. And should have sent in a second or 3rd tweet follow up.

Apply the same to OJ if he dies in a similar fashion, and Schefter is again going for the first to report angle.

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This isn’t an obituary. And there is literally nothing wrong with it. Haskins was a star in college. Not in the NFL. Schefter was noting this for his audience, who might not immediately recognize the name since he hasn’t been in the spotlight for awhile. If you are offended by it, you are being petty.

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This isn’t an obituary. And there is literally nothing wrong with it. Haskins was a star in college. Not in the NFL. Schefter was noting this for his audience, who might not immediately recognize the name since he hasn’t been in the spotlight for awhile. If you are offended by it, you are being petty.


I'm not offended in the least.

But as a journalism major, I certainly understand why others are offended.

Schefter got a key fact incorrect, while including incorrect career info in his haste to be the first to report on the death of Dwayne Haskins.

He came across as a petty and unprofessional douchebag whose tweet could once again be construed as having been ghost written by a Washington football team executive.

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It's fair and accurate and not in any way disrespectful or denigrating.

For someone like me who doesn't follow football, if he just called him "a quarterback" I would wonder why I had never heard of him.

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With that being the case, Haskins career had NOTHING at all to do with how he died.


But it does have to do with why Schefter is tweeting about him. I'm pretty sure no one will tweet about you or me when we die.

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It's fair and accurate and not in any way disrespectful or denigrating.

For someone like me who doesn't follow football, if he just called him "a quarterback" I would wonder why I had never heard of him.


I clearly pointed out two instances in his original tweet that were not accurate. For two guys who are most often offended about "Drumpf and the innaccuracy of reporting done on his part, this is an incredibly odd take from both of you.

I don't know what else to say at this point. :lol:

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
This isn’t an obituary. And there is literally nothing wrong with it. Haskins was a star in college. Not in the NFL. Schefter was noting this for his audience, who might not immediately recognize the name since he hasn’t been in the spotlight for awhile. If you are offended by it, you are being petty.


I'm not offended in the least.

But as a journalism major, I certainly understand why others are offended.

Schefter got a key fact incorrect, while including incorrect career info in his haste to be the first to report on the death of Dwayne Haskins.

He came across as a petty and unprofessional douchebag whose tweet could once again be construed as having been ghost written by a Washington football team executive.


It’s a social media post. It’s the first draft of the news. The people coming across as petty and unprofessional are the people attacking him for nonexistent malice.

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It's fair and accurate and not in any way disrespectful or denigrating.

For someone like me who doesn't follow football, if he just called him "a quarterback" I would wonder why I had never heard of him.


I clearly pointed out two instances in his original tweet that were not accurate. For two guys who are most often offended about "Drumpf and the innaccuracy of reporting done on his part, this is an incredibly odd take from both of you.

I don't know what else to say at this point. :lol:


Car vs. truck doesn’t really matter in this case.

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Shoehorning in that he struggled to catch on with the Redskins doesn't sit right with me. As others have said, that's a part you get to later in the article.

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With that being the case, Haskins career had NOTHING at all to do with how he died.


But it does have to do with why Schefter is tweeting about him. I'm pretty sure no one will tweet about you or me when we die.


Hopefully he won't get key facts about how he died and about his career incorrect either.

Backstory you may not know. Schefter allowed a previous Washington football exec to edit his work.

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Shoehorning in that he struggled to catch on with the Redskins doesn't sit right with me. As others have said, that's a part you get to later in the article.



Exactly.

And how he dies could have quickly checked with a state or local police agency.

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Shoehorning in that he struggled to catch on with the Redskins doesn't sit right with me. As others have said, that's a part you get to later in the article.



Like I said, without mentioning that he struggled, someone who follows football to the degree I do- or to a lesser degree- would wonder who the hell he was and where he played. I guess he could have called him a "backup quarterback" but that's less accurate, isn't it?

We can call this what it is- a tempest in a teacup.

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Shoehorning in that he struggled to catch on with the Redskins doesn't sit right with me. As others have said, that's a part you get to later in the article.



Exactly.

And how he dies could have quickly checked with a state or local police agency.



Come on. No one is taking issue over the model of the vehicle that struck him.

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Simple revision to "who played with Washington and Pittsburgh" would have been fine. Your level of care doesn't change whether he sucked there or thrived there.

And yes, a lot of this is because the blue-checks have it out for Schefter and are always looking for a reason to pounce. It still wasn't a great lede.

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New thread idea: which poster would you like to write your obit? I'm thinking whistler.

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With that being the case, Haskins career had NOTHING at all to do with how he died.


But it does have to do with why Schefter is tweeting about him. I'm pretty sure no one will tweet about you or me when we die.


Hopefully he won't get key facts about how he died and about his career incorrect either.

Backstory you may not know. Schefter allowed a previous Washington football exec to edit his work.


The last part isn't a surprise about ANY of the alleged NFL insider talking heads. It's amazing how much credibility they are presumed to have. Why he felt the need to lard on here is an indictment of how casual those guys are especially when racing to notably break news first on Twitter.

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First, as others as have stated, Twitter is not an obituary.

Seacrest, you have stated several times that his failed NFL career has nothing to do with his death. That may not be true. I stated earlier that his last Instagram post and the fact that he died in in such a preventable, violent manner may indicate this was intentional.

If that is the case, his struggling NFL career is indeed very relevant to his death.


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Simple revision to "who played with Washington and Pittsburgh" would have been fine. Your level of care doesn't change whether he sucked there or thrived there.

And yes, a lot of this is because the blue-checks have it out for Schefter and are always looking for a reason to pounce. It still wasn't a great lede.



Okay. And he changed it.

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New thread idea: which poster would you like to write your obit? I'm thinking whistler.



I'm going with Noisewater.

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Simple revision to "who played with Washington and Pittsburgh" would have been fine. Your level of care doesn't change whether he sucked there or thrived there.

And yes, a lot of this is because the blue-checks have it out for Schefter and are always looking for a reason to pounce. It still wasn't a great lede.


That's really why all of this happened. No one would have noticed otherwise.

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Mason Rudolph doesn't get this much pub if this happened to him.

Ryan Leaf..yes...

Trevor Siemian...no...

It's not complicated.

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Shoehorning in that he struggled to catch on with the Redskins doesn't sit right with me. As others have said, that's a part you get to later in the article.



Exactly.

And how he dies could have quickly checked with a state or local police agency.



Come on. No one is taking issue over the model of the vehicle that struck him.


That's part of being a reporter. You should have two sources often times as well.

But facts are only important with Drumpf apparently.

And speaking from experience, outcomes are far more severe usually with trucks then cars.

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Mason Rudolph doesn't get this much pub if this happened to him.

Ryan Leaf..yes...

Trevor Siemian...no...

It's not complicated.



It's not that he got pub Augie.

It's the time and place when it happened.

And it wasn't accurate either.

The story at 6:40 EST yesterday was the tragic death of Dwayne Haskins.

The story was not an inaccurate historical misrepresentation of what happened in Washington.

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With that being the case, Haskins career had NOTHING at all to do with how he died.


But it does have to do with why Schefter is tweeting about him. I'm pretty sure no one will tweet about you or me when we die.


Hopefully he won't get key facts about how he died and about his career incorrect either.

Backstory you may not know. Schefter allowed a previous Washington football exec to edit his work.


The last part isn't a surprise about ANY of the alleged NFL insider talking heads. It's amazing how much credibility they are presumed to have. Why he felt the need to lard on here is an indictment of how casual those guys are especially when racing to notably break news first on Twitter.



Adam Schefter is a highly paid male prostitute.

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Shoehorning in that he struggled to catch on with the Redskins doesn't sit right with me. As others have said, that's a part you get to later in the article.



Exactly.

And how he dies could have quickly checked with a state or local police agency.



Come on. No one is taking issue over the model of the vehicle that struck him.


That's part of being a reporter. You should have two sources often times as well.

But facts are only important with Drumpf apparently.

And speaking from experience, outcomes are far more severe usually with trucks then cars.


Bringing up Donald Trump here shows you have not idea what you are talking about. The media acted as a PR wing of the Democratic Party to try to remove Trump from office and not allow him to be an effective President. The make and model of the vehicle that hit Haskins has literally nothing to do with that critique of the press.

Schefter was trying to inform the audience who this flamed out quarterback was without saying he was the bust best known for sideline selfies.

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Shoehorning in that he struggled to catch on with the Redskins doesn't sit right with me. As others have said, that's a part you get to later in the article.



Exactly.

And how he dies could have quickly checked with a state or local police agency.



Come on. No one is taking issue over the model of the vehicle that struck him.


That's part of being a reporter. You should have two sources often times as well.

But facts are only important with Drumpf apparently.

And speaking from experience, outcomes are far more severe usually with trucks then cars.


Bringing up Donald Trump here shows you have not idea what you are talking about. The media acted as a PR wing of the Democratic Party to try to remove Trump from office and not allow him to be an effective President. The make and model of the vehicle that hit Haskins has literally nothing to do with that critique of the press.

Schefter was trying to inform the audience who this flamed out quarterback was without saying he was the bust best known for sideline selfies.


Your attempt to speak for Schefter is mildly amusing.

Adam Schefter is a PR flack for any number of NFL teams or players he needs for the info he posts.

Per his agent Ced Saunders, Current Steelers and former Washington QB Dwayne Haskins died this morning in South Florida.



Follow up with whatever you want.

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Your bizarre attempt to link this to Donald Trump is what's funny here. Schefter described the career arc of a quarterback in the mildest of terms, and you somehow believe it's journalistic malfeasance. He's an entertainment reporter who horse trades to be the first with breaking NFL news. That's his brand. Being first. And he's covering the NFL, he's not on the Spotlight team making sure that the nuclear plant isn't dumping waste near an orphanage. He makes millions of dollars covering the NFL for a network that has a contract with the league. It's like saying Mean Gene Okerlund wasn't tough enough in his coverage of Jack Tunney. PR hack!

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