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I just stay the course. As with other crises, this too shall pass. Or not. But articles such as this (from a newsletter I receive) help keep me grounded.


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Against expectations Putin went all in, invading Ukraine this morning or last night, depending on where you are in the world. This is a much bigger deal than when Russia invaded and annexed Crimea back in 2014, and financial markets are reacting as you might expect: Stocks are down and Treasury bond prices are up—gold and oil prices are up as well while cryptocurrencies are selling off.

Stocks aren’t down as much as you might expect though. Okay, the Van Eck Russia ETF (RSX) is down roughly 20% today. But the S&P 500 index is off just 1.4% as I record this. That’s not out of the norm for the way U.S. stock markets have typically reacted to major global events of this nature. Frankly, it’s not out of the norm for the U.S. market period.

This seemingly muted market reaction may be due in part to the fact that stocks were already down ahead of the event. The S&P 500 index entered correction territory on Tuesday—down 10% from its Jan. 3 high. In other words, the market was pricing in, at least to an extent, a bad outcome from the massing of Russian troops on Ukraine’s border.

How will the U.S. and Europe respond? I expect sanctions on Russia and aid to Ukraine in the form of weaponry, but the situation is incredibly fluid. War is a tragedy and I never mean to downplay the human impact. But you want my take on investments, not geopolitics, so what are we as investors to make of these events?

First, when I look at the history of markets and the onset of military conflicts, stocks on average gained ground over time. From the onset of the world wars to the Cold War clashes to fighting in the Middle East, you only need to look out six months to see that the Dow Jones Industrial Average averaged a 7% gain after the start of the fighting. That’s not a long-time horizon and reflects the enduring value of investments in companies that provide the services and products that we demand in our daily lives—during war and peacetime.

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I know this doesn’t quite match up with what you might expect. But it’s precisely why investors need to take the 30,000-foot view and recognize what you’re actually doing when you invest in stocks. Stocks are a vehicle for investing in companies that provide the products and services around the globe that people want and need. That doesn’t stop just because Putin has invaded Ukraine.

Everyone you see today got up this morning, turned on the TV, probably ate and drank something, probably turned on a computer, used some products and demanded some services to get their day going. Maybe they took a vitamin or called in a refill for a drug prescription. They will continue to do so. Health care companies? A major place to have money. Tech companies? A major place to put money. Will home demand dry up? Hardly. I could go on.

Also, consider what I said earlier about stocks already being underwater. Yes, the S&P 500 index just slid into correction territory, but the pain has been more widespread for far longer. As of Tuesday night—so before the invasion—more than 80% of the small-cap stocks that make up the Russell 2000 index were down 20% or more from their most recent highs. And more than a third of those small stocks were down at least 50% from those peaks.

Or you could look at the tech-heavy NASDAQ Composite index where nearly half of its 3,000 constituent stocks were 50% or more below recent highs. Again, I could go on, but the point is that many, many stocks were already in bear market territory or worse. That’s why some stocks are actually rallying this morning as bargain hunters have begun to look for opportunities among the rubble.

So, as you reflect on your own portfolio, count to ten before reacting. It’s only 12 hours into an evolving conflict. Sure, if you’re a trader you’ve got to respond—I suppose. But if you’re an investor keep in mind that opportunities are created during crisis. If you need to sell some stocks so you can sleep at night—that’s fine. Otherwise, keep calm and carry on.

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Trying to get rich quick opens one up to getting poor even quicker.

Slow and steady wins the race.

I get paid today, a down market means my dollar deposited into my 401K buys more shares of companies I want to own. Good for the long run.

I find that the less I watch my retirement money, the better I feel.


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I find that the less I watch my retirement money, the better I feel.

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Retirement money should always be on auto pilot. Stick with your plan which should mainly be equities and just let it roll. As noted above, when the market goes down, you are buying at lower values (dollar cost averaging). The key is to invest as much as you can.

The other piece is being opportunistic with cash and buying on dips in undervalued stocks. That is what I call my trading portfolio. I do it more as my form of gambling albeit with better odds than playing blackjack, I would hope.

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Retirement money should always be on auto pilot. Stick with your plan which should mainly be equities and just let it roll. As noted above, when the market goes down, you are buying at lower values (dollar cost averaging). The key is to invest as much as you can.

The other piece is being opportunistic with cash and buying on dips in undervalued stocks. That is what I call my trading portfolio. I do it more as my form of gambling albeit with better odds than playing blackjack, I would hope.


The way you talk about it and do it is correct. Also it’s cool you share a lot of info. One problem with Americans is that they have no chunk to gamble with as in your second point.

Some might say that is a symptom of wealth inequity but I disagree. I think it is lack of saving anything and overconsumption. It isn’t just poor to middle class that have no extra funds. It is also higher earners with suburban big homes and new cars in the driveway.

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Moderna tanking.

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so they raised it from 0.0 to 0.25? I guess they couldn't go any lower, well, they could, but that's more a Eurobank thing, negative interest rates.


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Not enough and everyone knows it.

I am taking a look at At&t now that they are close to the media asset spin off and have announced their dividend post spin/sale. Their capital plan looks smart. I am already in VZ. Also wondering if dividend stocks are the best play as there may be fixed income opportunities later in 2022.

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so they raised it from 0.0 to 0.25? I guess they couldn't go any lower, well, they could, but that's more a Eurobank thing, negative interest rates.


It’s all folly especially what has been done in Europe and Japan (i.e. charging people to park their money in a bank). The so called quantitive easing is banana republic style money printing. Our government deserves the current inflation problem from throwing up tariff barriers, making it harder to drill for oil and gas, outsized federal fiscal spending, silly monetary policy, and locking down our economy for so long. It does not even touch on work place rules in places like California that have made it harder to get truck drivers to ports.

I am sure many of you do not agree with me politically. But I bet most would agree we need good, pragmatic government. It just does not exist.

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so they raised it from 0.0 to 0.25? I guess they couldn't go any lower, well, they could, but that's more a Eurobank thing, negative interest rates.


It’s all folly especially what has been done in Europe and Japan (i.e. charging people to park their money in a bank). The so called quantitive easing is banana republic style money printing. Our government deserves the current inflation problem from throwing up tariff barriers, making it harder to drill for oil and gas, outsized federal fiscal spending, silly monetary policy, and locking down our economy for so long. It does not even touch on work place rules in places like California that have made it harder to get truck drivers to ports.

I am sure many of you do not agree with me politically. But I would most would agree we need good, pragmatic government. It just does not exist.


Agreed wholeheartedly. And we agree more politically than many would believe. :D

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Hussra wrote:
so they raised it from 0.0 to 0.25? I guess they couldn't go any lower, well, they could, but that's more a Eurobank thing, negative interest rates.


It’s all folly especially what has been done in Europe and Japan (i.e. charging people to park their money in a bank). The so called quantitive easing is banana republic style money printing. Our government deserves the current inflation problem from throwing up tariff barriers, making it harder to drill for oil and gas, outsized federal fiscal spending, silly monetary policy, and locking down our economy for so long. It does not even touch on work place rules in places like California that have made it harder to get truck drivers to ports.

I am sure many of you do not agree with me politically. But I would most would agree we need good, pragmatic government. It just does not exist.


Agreed wholeheartedly. And we agree more politically than many would believe. :D

Yep, we've hit on this before. We all want the same thing once you strip away the bullshit. Take away the Republicans and the Democrats and we'd have more kum-by-yah than any of us could imagine :lol:

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IBM with what looks like a solid quarter.

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IBM with what looks like a solid quarter.

If you own Netflix, sorry you’re poorer.


Get ready for advertising coming to Netflix.


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IBM with what looks like a solid quarter.

If you own Netflix, sorry you’re poorer.


Get ready for advertising coming to Netflix.

Someday, some super genius tech bro is going to invent a way to consolidate all your streaming services. You’ll have one menu where you can see all available content and you’ll pay this person one monthly fee directly. From there, he’ll worry about negotiating pricing with all of the various content providers which will turn out to provide both stability & visibility to creator & consumer alike.

It’ll be glorious.

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looks like a great time to buy netflix. at least in a few weeks

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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denisdman wrote:
IBM with what looks like a solid quarter.

If you own Netflix, sorry you’re poorer.


Get ready for advertising coming to Netflix.

Someday, some super genius tech bro is going to invent a way to consolidate all your streaming services. You’ll have one menu where you can see all available content and you’ll pay this person one monthly fee directly. From there, he’ll worry about negotiating pricing with all of the various content providers which will turn out to provide both stability & visibility to creator & consumer alike.

It’ll be glorious.


they already do that for cable channels. find a good iptv service and you dont even care about on demand.

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The young guys at work are turning back to cable and dumping streaming services as quickly as they can raise their rates, this new group has no fear of burning bridges. Trying to earn money off today's young adults must be infuriating at best, and mind-numbing at the worst.


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Netflix sucks besides a few original shows.


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IkeSouth wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Warren Newson wrote:
denisdman wrote:
IBM with what looks like a solid quarter.

If you own Netflix, sorry you’re poorer.


Get ready for advertising coming to Netflix.

Someday, some super genius tech bro is going to invent a way to consolidate all your streaming services. You’ll have one menu where you can see all available content and you’ll pay this person one monthly fee directly. From there, he’ll worry about negotiating pricing with all of the various content providers which will turn out to provide both stability & visibility to creator & consumer alike.

It’ll be glorious.


they already do that for cable channels. find a good iptv service and you dont even care about on demand.


Far be it from me to attempt to know the mind of Antioch, but I think his post was just a sarcastic argument that the old cable model was better than the current streaming model.


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denisdman wrote:
IBM with what looks like a solid quarter.

If you own Netflix, sorry you’re poorer.


Get ready for advertising coming to Netflix.


I've heard rumblings that they want to offer an ad-based tier that would save customers a few bucks. If they actually start inserting mandatory ads for everyone, I'm out...as will be most people.

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The news I saw yesterday was Netflix complaining about extended families etc sharing passwords for a 4 screen subscription. Not sure how they crack down without many just walking away?

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The young guys at work are turning back to cable and dumping streaming services as quickly as they can raise their rates, this new group has no fear of burning bridges. Trying to earn money off today's young adults must be infuriating at best, and mind-numbing at the worst.


I don't think it's any different than it's ever been. People will pay for convenience but only up to a certain point.

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The news I saw yesterday was Netflix complaining about extended families etc sharing passwords for a 4 screen subscription. Not sure how they crack down without many just walking away?


What I don't get is people have done that since Netflix's inception. When they were a DVD service, people shared their discs. When they went streaming, people shared their passwords. And the whole time Netflix expanded like crazy.

The real problem is they spent billions on original content and didn't get the quality that people wanted, so they're not paying for it anymore. Simple as that.

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:lol: :lol: I have felt similarly for years about Cramer's picks.

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You know the tide has turned when Censor-in-Chief Dorsey goes after CNN.

https://thehill.com/news/media/3273281- ... -ferguson/

Where was he 5 years ago?????? It must be getting safe now.


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