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The ass covering and bullshit is going to be something to watch.

That's gaslighting at it's finest. They blocked the story about the laptop being Hunter's to begin with, not the hacked documents.

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The ass covering and bullshit is going to be something to watch.


That’s amazing honestly

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This guy is a power and money hungry charlatan. Even after openly and repeatedly manipulating crypto markets last year to enrich himself, and screw the little guy, people still are celebrating him as if he's genuinely trying to "help" anyone else other than himself. I guess this speaks to his level of competence at manipulating the masses. In that case, congratulations, Elon Mu$k!

So? Do you think his motive of "opening-up" Twitter is a bad thing?

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This guy is a power and money hungry charlatan. Even after openly and repeatedly manipulating crypto markets last year to enrich himself, and screw the little guy, people still are celebrating him as if he's genuinely trying to "help" anyone else other than himself. I guess this speaks to his level of competence at manipulating the masses. In that case, congratulations, Elon Mu$k!

Wait until you find out about the other American billionaires!!!

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The bot deleting is one of the most necessary actions that needs to happen.

Media narratives, stock markets, and society at large can be controlled by how MANY bots are pushing trending topics.

It’s so genius and devious at the same time.


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The ass covering and bullshit is going to be something to watch.

That's gaslighting at it's finest. They blocked the story about the laptop being Hunter's to begin with, not the hacked documents.

So Hunter’s laptop was both hacked and Russian disinformation?

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This guy is a power and money hungry charlatan. Even after openly and repeatedly manipulating crypto markets last year to enrich himself, and screw the little guy, people still are celebrating him as if he's genuinely trying to "help" anyone else other than himself. I guess this speaks to his level of competence at manipulating the masses. In that case, congratulations, Elon Mu$k!

So? Do you think his motive of "opening-up" Twitter is a bad thing?


I don't think he cares about opening Twitter anymore than he genuinely cared about the usefulness of crypto. He recognizes that he has a loyal following and he will continue to profit off of that. He's not some noble billionaire.

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
This guy is a power and money hungry charlatan. Even after openly and repeatedly manipulating crypto markets last year to enrich himself, and screw the little guy, people still are celebrating him as if he's genuinely trying to "help" anyone else other than himself. I guess this speaks to his level of competence at manipulating the masses. In that case, congratulations, Elon Mu$k!

So? Do you think his motive of "opening-up" Twitter is a bad thing?


I don't think he cares about opening Twitter anymore than he genuinely cared about the usefulness of crypto. He recognizes that he has a loyal following and he will continue to profit off of that. He's not some noble billionaire.


That's still not what charlatan means.

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This guy is a power and money hungry charlatan. Even after openly and repeatedly manipulating crypto markets last year to enrich himself, and screw the little guy, people still are celebrating him as if he's genuinely trying to "help" anyone else other than himself. I guess this speaks to his level of competence at manipulating the masses. In that case, congratulations, Elon Mu$k!

Wait until you find out about the other American billionaires!!!


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Nas wrote:
This guy is a power and money hungry charlatan. Even after openly and repeatedly manipulating crypto markets last year to enrich himself, and screw the little guy, people still are celebrating him as if he's genuinely trying to "help" anyone else other than himself. I guess this speaks to his level of competence at manipulating the masses. In that case, congratulations, Elon Mu$k!

Wait until you find out about the other American billionaires!!!


We idolize anyone who has money until we don't.

Who is "we"?

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
This guy is a power and money hungry charlatan. Even after openly and repeatedly manipulating crypto markets last year to enrich himself, and screw the little guy, people still are celebrating him as if he's genuinely trying to "help" anyone else other than himself. I guess this speaks to his level of competence at manipulating the masses. In that case, congratulations, Elon Mu$k!

Wait until you find out about the other American billionaires!!!


We idolize anyone who has money until we don't.

You’re absolutely right MANY Americans have a serious problem idolizing billionaires.

A big root cause of that issue IMO is most people don’t understand just how massive the difference is between a millionaire and a billionaire.

They conflate the two as equal when it is no where near the same universe.

Fortunately, there is a growing contingent of people who opened their eyes during the pandemic to the disgusting display of greed that showed itself through the pharmaceutical corporations.

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Nas wrote:
Franky T wrote:
Nas wrote:
This guy is a power and money hungry charlatan. Even after openly and repeatedly manipulating crypto markets last year to enrich himself, and screw the little guy, people still are celebrating him as if he's genuinely trying to "help" anyone else other than himself. I guess this speaks to his level of competence at manipulating the masses. In that case, congratulations, Elon Mu$k!

So? Do you think his motive of "opening-up" Twitter is a bad thing?


I don't think he cares about opening Twitter anymore than he genuinely cared about the usefulness of crypto. He recognizes that he has a loyal following and he will continue to profit off of that. He's not some noble billionaire.


That's still not what charlatan means.


If having a platform where speech isn't moderated much or at all is a special skill, then we should build a statue of Bigfan and worship it. There are MANY online communities where you can essentially post whatever you want. Elon Musk has convinced MANY of you all that he alone can give everyone the right to free speech again.

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Elon Musk is evil. He made money building his space rockets.

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Nas wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Nas wrote:
Franky T wrote:
Nas wrote:
This guy is a power and money hungry charlatan. Even after openly and repeatedly manipulating crypto markets last year to enrich himself, and screw the little guy, people still are celebrating him as if he's genuinely trying to "help" anyone else other than himself. I guess this speaks to his level of competence at manipulating the masses. In that case, congratulations, Elon Mu$k!

So? Do you think his motive of "opening-up" Twitter is a bad thing?


I don't think he cares about opening Twitter anymore than he genuinely cared about the usefulness of crypto. He recognizes that he has a loyal following and he will continue to profit off of that. He's not some noble billionaire.


That's still not what charlatan means.


If having a platform where speech isn't moderated much or at all is a special skill, then we should build a statue of Bigfan and worship it. There are MANY online communities where you can essentially post whatever you want. Elon Musk has convinced MANY of you all that he alone can give everyone the right to free speech again.

I'm enjoying the meltdown of everyone who thinks that the world is ending.

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Nas wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Nas wrote:
Franky T wrote:
Nas wrote:
This guy is a power and money hungry charlatan. Even after openly and repeatedly manipulating crypto markets last year to enrich himself, and screw the little guy, people still are celebrating him as if he's genuinely trying to "help" anyone else other than himself. I guess this speaks to his level of competence at manipulating the masses. In that case, congratulations, Elon Mu$k!

So? Do you think his motive of "opening-up" Twitter is a bad thing?


I don't think he cares about opening Twitter anymore than he genuinely cared about the usefulness of crypto. He recognizes that he has a loyal following and he will continue to profit off of that. He's not some noble billionaire.


That's still not what charlatan means.


If having a platform where speech isn't moderated much or at all is a special skill, then we should build a statue of Bigfan and worship it. There are MANY online communities where you can essentially post whatever you want. Elon Musk has convinced MANY of you all that he alone can give everyone the right to free speech again.

Are you assuming racism and child porn are going to be a staple of Twitter now?

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Nas wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Nas wrote:
Franky T wrote:
Nas wrote:
This guy is a power and money hungry charlatan. Even after openly and repeatedly manipulating crypto markets last year to enrich himself, and screw the little guy, people still are celebrating him as if he's genuinely trying to "help" anyone else other than himself. I guess this speaks to his level of competence at manipulating the masses. In that case, congratulations, Elon Mu$k!

So? Do you think his motive of "opening-up" Twitter is a bad thing?


I don't think he cares about opening Twitter anymore than he genuinely cared about the usefulness of crypto. He recognizes that he has a loyal following and he will continue to profit off of that. He's not some noble billionaire.


That's still not what charlatan means.


If having a platform where speech isn't moderated much or at all is a special skill, then we should build a statue of Bigfan and worship it. There are MANY online communities where you can essentially post whatever you want. Elon Musk has convinced MANY of you all that he alone can give everyone the right to free speech again.


Twitter is a bit of a side project for him. He’s revolutionizing the auto industry. Oh and he created a successful private space company. Did Big Fan also do those on the side?

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Bigfan tried to break Wild Hare. I don't think it worked. Then he moved.

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Nas wrote:
This guy is a power and money hungry charlatan. Even after openly and repeatedly manipulating crypto markets last year to enrich himself, and screw the little guy, people still are celebrating him as if he's genuinely trying to "help" anyone else other than himself. I guess this speaks to his level of competence at manipulating the masses. In that case, congratulations, Elon Mu$k!

Wait until you find out about the other American billionaires!!!


We idolize anyone who has money until we don't.

You’re absolutely right MANY Americans have a serious problem idolizing billionaires.

A big root cause of that issue IMO is most people don’t understand just how massive the difference is between a millionaire and a billionaire.

They conflate the two as equal when it is no where near the same universe.

Fortunately, there is a growing contingent of people who opened their eyes during the pandemic to the disgusting display of greed that showed itself through the pharmaceutical corporations.


I don't disagree with nearly any of this. The exception being, we're celebrating a guy who was one of the most egregious example of a billionaire who profitted off of the pandemic. He even went so far as to manipulate a penny crypto multiple times for profit.

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Are you familiar with how corrupt the stock market is?

Also how familiar are you with crypto?


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Nas wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Nas wrote:
This guy is a power and money hungry charlatan. Even after openly and repeatedly manipulating crypto markets last year to enrich himself, and screw the little guy, people still are celebrating him as if he's genuinely trying to "help" anyone else other than himself. I guess this speaks to his level of competence at manipulating the masses. In that case, congratulations, Elon Mu$k!

Wait until you find out about the other American billionaires!!!


We idolize anyone who has money until we don't.

You’re absolutely right MANY Americans have a serious problem idolizing billionaires.

A big root cause of that issue IMO is most people don’t understand just how massive the difference is between a millionaire and a billionaire.

They conflate the two as equal when it is no where near the same universe.

Fortunately, there is a growing contingent of people who opened their eyes during the pandemic to the disgusting display of greed that showed itself through the pharmaceutical corporations.


I don't disagree with nearly any of this. The exception being, we're celebrating a guy who was one of the most egregious example of a billionaire who profitted off of the pandemic. He even went so far as to manipulate a penny crypto multiple times for profit.

He profited off the pandemic? I thought most of his money came from selling off PayPal and owning tesla stock. How was he profiteering off the pandemic?

As an aside if you have a 401k you probably profited off the pandemic.

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It's amazing how scared some people are of the people speaking freely.

It's amazing how important Twitter is to people. Let him destroy it. Who cares?


Yeah. He should just destroy a company worth 50 billion. Who cares?

If he makes it worse or better who cares? It will still be a terrible thing for society.


Twitter makes society worst is a laughably simplistic take. And if it went away there are dozens of other social media companies.

Twitter makes people miserable the more time they spend on it. It gets people addicted to it. It's a terrible format for actual real discussion of any topic which is why people have to say "Why solar panels are stupid. Long 1/26". The people on it convince themselves that there isn't enough censorship and too much censorship at the same time.

I would question why you are so offended by my take in Twitter. You want to give me all the reasons it is great? I'll even start that it is an efficient way to share breaking NBA trades but that doesn't make it worth what it is doing to millions of people and society in general.

The fact that other social media companies exist doesn't make it better or worse. There are other cigarette companies but it doesn't mean smoking is good.

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Brick wrote:
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It's amazing how scared some people are of the people speaking freely.

It's amazing how important Twitter is to people. Let him destroy it. Who cares?


Yeah. He should just destroy a company worth 50 billion. Who cares?

If he makes it worse or better who cares? It will still be a terrible thing for society.


Twitter makes society worst is a laughably simplistic take. And if it went away there are dozens of other social media companies.

Twitter makes people miserable the more time they spend on it. It gets people addicted to it. It's a terrible format for actual real discussion of any topic which is why people have to say "Why solar panels are stupid. Long 1/26". The people on it convince themselves that there isn't enough censorship and too much censorship at the same time.

I would question why you are so offended by my take in Twitter. You want to give me all the reasons it is great? I'll even start that it is an efficient way to share breaking NBA trades but that doesn't make it worth what it is doing to millions of people and society in general.

The fact that other social media companies exist doesn't make it better or worse. There are other cigarette companies but it doesn't mean smoking is good.


I think you're confusing the app with some of the people that use it. That's no different than blaming guns for murder.

The thing that made Twitter a killer app was that it put your voice on par with the voices of Joy Reid and Tucker Carlson. And that's exactly what the erstwhile gatekeepers of information could not and cannot countenance. Twitter undermined itself with the blue check system. That was really the beginning of its downfall.

The most powerful people are terrified that Musk will return it to its original promise. I'm not sure if he can or if he will, but one thing I'm certain about- it won't be worse than it is now.

By the way, you can thank drunken Tony LaRussa for the blue checks.

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If a million idiots convert their U.S. Dollars to shitcoins just because a dope-smoking billionaire tweets out a photo of a Shiba Inu, I'm not sure that's really what I would call "manipulation."


He did the same thing with Bitcoin.

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Twitter makes people miserable the more time they spend on it. It gets people addicted to it. It's a terrible format for actual real discussion of any topic which is why people have to say "Why solar panels are stupid. Long 1/26". The people on it convince themselves that there isn't enough censorship and too much censorship at the same time.

I would question why you are so offended by my take in Twitter. You want to give me all the reasons it is great? I'll even start that it is an efficient way to share breaking NBA trades but that doesn't make it worth what it is doing to millions of people and society in general.

The fact that other social media companies exist doesn't make it better or worse. There are other cigarette companies but it doesn't mean smoking is good.


Twitter is communication. Do you consider communication akin to smoking? The issue here is that you aren't a very deep thinker. Everything is either bad or good. Twitter is a just a quick way to share information. Are text messages evil? It's a website that broadcasts text messages.

It's just a website on the Internet. Do you consider the Internet to be "bad"? Nearly everything you say about Twitter was said about the Internet.

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If a million idiots convert their U.S. Dollars to shitcoins just because a dope-smoking billionaire tweets out a photo of a Shiba Inu, I'm not sure that's really what I would call "manipulation."


He did the same thing with Bitcoin.


I have a friend who uses Signal as his messaging app because Musk said he should. I don't really think it's Musk's fault that goofs hang on his every word.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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If a million idiots convert their U.S. Dollars to shitcoins just because a dope-smoking billionaire tweets out a photo of a Shiba Inu, I'm not sure that's really what I would call "manipulation."


He did the same thing with Bitcoin.


I have a friend who uses Signal as his messaging app because Musk said he should. I don't really think it's Musk's fault that goofs hang on his every word.


It's what we do as Americans. Especially when the wealthy guy is a great salesman.

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