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The offense is virtually unchanged. The Vikings do not look like a squad in Year 1 of a regime change at coach and GM after seasons of mediocrity.
Continuity is usually a great thing, but I have mixed feelings here. The Vikings are counting on new coach Kevin O'Connell to change this attack.
The biggest turning point of the Vikings' offseason came when they traded down from the 12th overall pick in the draft, passing on a chance to select Jameson Williams. After another trade down in Round 2, the extra pick turned into Ed Ingram (No. 59 overall), whom I've projected to start at guard.
It's not a surprise the Vikings addressed their interior offensive line. That remains the biggest question mark on the team and should concern anyone who doesn't like watching Kirk Cousins throw passes into the ground because of quick pressure up the middle.
Adding Williams would have made this skill position group loaded. It's still quite good. K.J. Osborn was a revelation last year as a No. 3 receiver, making almost as many big plays as Adam Thielen.
Irv Smith Jr. could put this group on another level. He missed all of last season with a knee injury and has gained just 676 yards in his career, yet his movement and ball skills give him the potential to be a top tight end.
That's a fine-looking defense on paper and a better indication of where the organization is headed under new GM Kwesi Adofo-Mensah.
The secondary should be extremely versatile and able to mix and match against any offense. Chandon Sullivan is projected as the starting slot cornerback, although I listed three safeties getting the most snaps as a nod to Camryn Bynum's terrific rookie season.
Andrew Booth Jr., a second-round pick, struggled to stay healthy at Clemson and underwent surgery on a sports hernia in March. He might not be a full participant until training camp, so Cameron Dantzler could have the early inside track to start opposite Patrick Peterson.
That's a good-looking defensive line and linebacker group. Third-round pick Brian Asamoah will try to take some of Jordan Hicks' snaps.
Danielle Hunter and Za'Darius Smith are the biggest boom-or-bust part of this roster. If healthy, they could be one of the best tandems in football. Hunter has played just 384 snaps in the last two years combined, however, and Smith missed nearly all of last season with back issues.
In the AFC, this roster would get lost in the shuffle. In the NFC, the Vikings have a chance to get back to the playoffs if a few variables break right. (Most notably: Was O'Connell a good hire?)

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 Post subject: Re: Minnesota Vikings
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Irv Smith Jr. looking good at TE and Dalvin lining up at WR on some plays. I like what I'm hearing so far.

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Supposedly he's sharing 2nd string reps which is good. I hope they keep him at number 2 and wave Mannion.

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Former Vikings coach Mike Zimmer had an old-school, Parcells-style, tell-it-like-he-sees-it approach. After Zimmer was fired, linebacker Eric Kendricks characterized the team as being “fear-based” under Zimmer.

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Players can be too sensitive and entitled.

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Players can be too sensitive and entitled.


Very true. I'm hoping they strike a balance with this coaching staff and front office.

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It's only going to get worse. Players in control is going to destroy sports as we knew them. But, Gen Z has lower expectations when it comes to players attitudes and load management just to name one issue.

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 Post subject: Re: Minnesota Vikings
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I'm ok with where King has the Vikings ranked. The defense is still questionable and we have a head coach who's never done it before.

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19. Minnesota (8-9, out of the playoffs)
There’s some fresh air over the Vikings with the firing of Mike Zimmer. Lots of players found him too negative at the end of his reign. Despite having above-average talent over the past four years, including quarterback Kirk Cousins, the Vikings have been just 33-31-1 in the regular season since Cousins arrived in 2018—and they’ve averaged finishing 19th in the league in team defense over those four seasons. That was Zimmer’s area of expertise, of course. Now the head coach is a sunny offensive guy, Kevin O’Connell, with a veteran running the defense, Ed Donatell. He’s run a 3-4 recently, but promises to meld three- and four-man fronts in Minnesota. Either way, two defensive imports—end Harrison Phillips (Buffalo) and OLB Za’Darius Smith (Green Bay)—should play big roles if the Donatell system is going to get the Vikings back to playing quality defense.

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Professional. Not afraid to say he doesn't know it all and is working at getting better. I like it.


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#Vikings QB Kirk Cousins says he’s “felt like an 8th grader studying for a quiz” at times when he goes home and runs through flash cards to help learn this offense.

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 Post subject: Re: Minnesota Vikings
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5. Vikings: Kirk Cousins (QB), Kevin O'Connell (HC)*
No one's betting on Cousins to headline a championship run, but for all the flak he gets, he's still a borderline top-10 passer with underrated efficiency and big-play potential. O'Connell is a relative unknown, but his resume as a former QB and Sean McVay assistant at least makes him a more promising partner for Cousins than the old-school Mike Zimmer.

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During one interview last year, Spielman said something to the effect that he just drafts and signs guys he thinks are good. Then, he lets the coaches figure out how to use them.

Sounds like Poles approach to the O-Line and WR for the Bears. I hope it works better for them than it did for the Vikings.

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 Post subject: Re: Minnesota Vikings
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drafting bpa is the best strategy over the long term

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drafting bpa is the best strategy over the long term


....provided you can correctly identify the bpa.

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....Poles assessment of BPA seems intextricably linked to RAS.

Do we have an assessment of draft pick success by RAS?

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....Poles assessment of BPA seems intextricably linked to RAS.

Do we have an assessment of draft pick success by RAS?


I'd think it is a bad predictor.

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....Poles assessment of BPA seems intextricably linked to RAS.

Do we have an assessment of draft pick success by RAS?


I'd think it is a bad predictor.


Uh-oh.

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....Poles assessment of BPA seems intextricably linked to RAS.

Do we have an assessment of draft pick success by RAS?


I'd think it is a bad predictor.


Uh-oh.


Looks like the Lions are using it too.

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 Post subject: Re: Minnesota Vikings
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....Poles assessment of BPA seems intextricably linked to RAS.

Do we have an assessment of draft pick success by RAS?


I'd think it is a bad predictor.


Uh-oh.


Looks like the Lions are using it too.


Historically, Dorsey seems to like high RAS guys, but he couples that metric with high RSS (Relative Sociopath Score) guys.

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“Kirk’s a really good quarterback,” Adofo-Mensah said. “Things are binary. Either you’re a champion or you’re not. Either you’re the GOAT or you’re not. I don’t think that’s really how you successfully build teams. When you study historically what wins the NFL, special quarterback play does matter, but there are other ways to win.

“What we try to do is first and foremost get Kirk in the fold. I had a presentation with him. ‘Hey, you’re our partner in this. We’re trying to build this thing to have you be the best version of yourself, Kevin and I.’ Once we do that, then we can maybe go back and reassess where we are, but we think the best version of him and surrounding him with other things give us a really good chance.

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Cousins excels in a clean pocket but disintegrates under pressure. Force him to move his feet and you will likely win.

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Cousins excels in a clean pocket but disintegrates under pressure. Force him to move his feet and you will likely win.


True. But, there's no one to replace him with at this point unless Mond turns into a stud overnight.

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He will benefit from what I assume will be a heavy dose of play-action passing in the new offense.

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He will benefit from what I assume will be a heavy dose of play-action passing in the new offense.


Probably so. Good point.

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Nice to have a solid RT. Past time to upgrade at Center though.

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Random stats that I find fun.

Brian O'Neill has started for four years since his debut as a rookie and only given up six sacks across more than 4,000 snaps.

He averages 25 pressures allowed per year and has not missed a game since becoming a starter four weeks into his career.

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 Post subject: Re: Minnesota Vikings
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Training camp roster projections

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2022/5/20 ... -positions

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2022/5/21 ... nsive-line

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2022/5/26 ... sive-front

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2022/5/26 ... cial-teams

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Augie wrote:
Nice to have a solid RT. Past time to upgrade at Center though.

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Brian O'Neill has started for four years since his debut as a rookie and only given up six sacks across more than 4,000 snaps.

He averages 25 pressures allowed per year and has not missed a game since becoming a starter four weeks into his career.


That was a great pick that I was really confident would work out. He had LT skills but just needed coaching and experience.

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 Post subject: Re: Minnesota Vikings
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From Overthecap.com

Vikings Post June 1 cap space number is $10,907,296.

The rest of the NFC North

Bears Post June 1 cap space $22,210,674

Lions Post June 1 cap space $10,384,179

Packers Post June 1 cap space $16,965,125

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 Post subject: Re: Minnesota Vikings
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Was never a fan of this pick. A guy who had sexual assault charges against a minor dropped should be running to sign with any team, let alone one that overdrafted him in the 2nd round. Looking like a miss by Kwesi.

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