Why?

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Remember kids, racism is really bad. Dismissing 90 million people as worthless rubes is just necessary.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

I didn't know those specifics. I appreciate you posting them, Nas.

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Not a new position, but I wouldn’t care so much about the repeal of Roe if maternity and paternity leave, daycare and/or healthcare was provided.

If you’re making people whose household income doesn’t crack $50,000 per year it’s the least you can do.

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I'm neither drunk nor stupid.

I don't agree with you on many points. Pro life people in red states or not are not rubes nor are they all religious. An abortion is not a health care issue. It is also not a right. I don't think they should be allowed past 12 weeks. Of all the people I know who have experienced miscarriages, I know very few that are as supportive of abortion or hardened as you on the issue. You blow my mind with your thoughts on it, it's like it's not possible I'm reading what you type. And then you sit up on a high horse as if you are some cultured highly intelligent scholar that is better than everyone else. How you got that way is baffling because I don't even think you are nouveau riche or decent in what you say much of the time on here.

Now, if you really want to get into it we can. At least I can come in and out of different levels of sobriety. You don't seem to be able to rise above your baseline level of simplicity and stupidity that borders on absurd. And so help me god if you follow me around or continue down this path I will meet you at the Hinsdale oasis or outside of Guaranteed Rate field and beat your ass in.

Quit talking down to people because you are pretty much equal with everybody else. It seems like you went back to the Spaulding drunk and stupid well because you really don't have an explanation on why those people are rubes. We better hope those rubes continue to produce what they do, like food, because they are pretty important no matter what you think of them. It's no different than when people rip on you for selling light bulbs, which I'm pretty sure if we hooked you up to one you could not power unlike the mighty potato.

It doesn't seem like that is the case or what they are working toward. Why would you allow and push for it at all stages of pregnancy no matter what the reason. If you are going to allow them you better have a pretty good reason. I'm not sure I trust cdc data - they want this happening, and CA and MD are excluded. They have high rates.

It seems like Spaulding and MANY others got spooked by some fringe 9 month abortion advocates, and are in turn A-OK with an abortion ban because of this social media induced paranoia.

This country is losing all semblance of rational thought.

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I'm aware that boys/men are the first line of defense against an unwanted pregnancy, but some personal responsibility is necessary too.

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Yes I’m sure borderline illiterate people in these government subsidized deep red states will be pro active enough to change their fucking habits before they thrust future generations of their families into more poverty.

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I've named at least 4 things I found troubling in the Women's Health Act. This being proud of your abortion stuff is egregious as is trying to do a way with the religious protections act. I don't like what all of this is moving toward either.

Honestly, why do you care what other women think of their abortion?

It doesn’t affect you.

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What doesn't seem like it is the case? There's state provided data that is available. What you want to trust or believe is irrelevant. The states literally give this data to the government. The link you posted is using this data to highlight that roughly 5k abortions happen after 20 weeks. Therefore, if you are going to dismiss the government data, you have to ignore the information that's used in the link you provided. After all, it came from the government.

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Why do you not care? Why do you get to worry about what I care about or not?

This effects all of us whether you want to admit it or not.

If it’s under 20 weeks I really don’t give a shit.

I’m simply wondering why your Karen-meter is so concerned with another woman’s choice.

I think you and MANY others are ridiculous cheering on this decision.

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Is this really about birth rates?

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Why do you think they left out data from CA and MD? CA one of the most bureaucratic states, didn't have the info? Okay. It makes me think they are hiding something. We know they lie constantly. Maybe I shouldn't believe the report I found but I have no real reason to doubt it. It's possible they have other motivations.

The thing that I linked said their study found that it it wasn't always in dire cases and even suggests it's more elective than thought. That's sick.

Is abortion going to be banned in California?

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No. The percentage of abortions and abortion clinics have significantly declined throughout the country. Even in blue states. It's more about a barbaric medical procedure that your future descendants will frown upon. Something that this ruling doesn't change. Ultimately, this ruling will negatively impact a tiny number of people—nothing to celebrate or be outraged about.

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You’re dumb

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It tells you why data from Pennsylvania, California, Maryland, and Illinois wasn't included. It took me less than 5 minutes to find the data from those states. California is responsible for 132k abortions a year. Roughly an 1/8 of all abortions. Illinois has fewer abortions than Texas and Florida and only 10k more than Georgia.

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That's a great piece of data. Thanks!

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This is the same argument with gun control. People are going to get pregnant regardless. If you’re going to take away the last viable option then there should be reciprocal safety nets put in place. This is all about the welfare of the child after all.

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I used to love you bud, but I think the board’s reaction to this SC decision has changed my view of this place.

W/e tho, no one person is worth more than anyone else here.

It doesn’t matter who posts here or not.

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Shouldn't the behavior be addressed not the outcome?

Poor people fuck like rabbits, and that is never going to change.

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I don't think this decision is good, I've already said that. The deep blues states will try to and probably pass things close to the women's health act which is good for nobody. I also would never want to work toward a policy where it is not available at all. It's sick what we are turning into and I don't want policies like this made by loons.

I dedicate time and money to a few causes that have nothing to do with me like homelessness and hunger. Should I stop doing that? I think you should ask yourself why you don't care about anything outside yourself. It's great if you can avoid the effects but not so great for those that can't and who's going to help them? Do you understand some of the things in the women's health act? They will try to repeal the religious protection act and get more government control over healthcare. I don't think that's good. Should we as a society be allowing partial birth abortions on an almost full term baby? Do you really have so little value for life in general? If it's her choice that choice needs to be made sooner. I feel very strongly there needs to be a limit and I think that's very important. I don't see how you don't.

It is similar to the gun debate in that people are overreacting and using fear to get emotional responses from people who are clueless about actual data. The restrictions that some states put in place will not prevent people from getting an abortion. Just like the new gun law won't stop people from buying guns. In MANY of the states that will restrict abortion except for cases of rape/incest or health of the mother, they only had like 1 abortion clinic in the entire state. That meant nearly everyone had to leave the state to get an abortion. The same will still be true today. Some boys/men/girls/women will be more responsible.

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Yes somewhere between 15-20 weeks is what every rational US citizen agrees with.

An all out abortion ban is just reactionary evangelical bullshit.

Co-signing this because you’re owning the libs, or you’re too weak to disagree with your “party” is just something I can’t respect.

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personally i think any mother or father should have the right to terminate any kid up to 18 years after birth.

but i also think if you arent going to allow abortion, then the state should pay for childcare if the mother doesnt want the kid. the last thing we need are unloved kids roaming through society fucking everything up. if foster care was well funded, at least the kids would have similar advantages as others with loving parents.

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

That's fine. I'm more than willing to consider that my views are wrong. It's going to take data to do that.

If I were going to lean into the emotional aspect of this debate, I would use some data that Seacrest shared a few years ago. Potential black lives are responsible for roughly 40% of abortions annually. That's three times our percentage of the population. Those potential black lives should matter as much as the 34% of prisoners who are black, and the 55% of murder victims who are black.

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