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 Post subject: Re: Roe v Wade
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national legislation has to have a constitutional hook to be enabled. The SC already eliminated one avenue.



Pretty hard to have that "hook" when the Bill of Rights guarantees the right to life and liberty.

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that part of the bill of rights is what's called precatory language: the nice, flowery, aspirational stuff that people quote in speeches on 4th of July but have little legal weight

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that part of the bill of rights is what's called precatory language: the nice, flowery, aspirational stuff that people quote in speeches on 4th of July but have little legal weight



What?

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that part of the bill of rights is what's called precatory language: the nice, flowery, aspirational stuff that people quote in speeches on 4th of July but have little legal weight



What?


sorry, got my documents wrong. Life, liberty and the pusuit of happiness is the preamble

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good dolphin wrote:
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good dolphin wrote:
that part of the bill of rights is what's called precatory language: the nice, flowery, aspirational stuff that people quote in speeches on 4th of July but have little legal weight



What?


sorry, got my documents wrong. Life, liberty and the pusuit of happiness is the preamble


Uh, fellas, unless I'm missing something here, the phrase "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" is not included in the Bill or Rights, nor the Constitution.

I think it's solely found in the Declaration of Independence.
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that part of the bill of rights is what's called precatory language: the nice, flowery, aspirational stuff that people quote in speeches on 4th of July but have little legal weight



What?


sorry, got my documents wrong. Life, liberty and the pusuit of happiness is the preamble


Uh, fellas, unless I'm missing something here, the phrase "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" is not included in the Bill or Rights, nor the Constitution.

I think it's solely found in the Declaration of Independence.


correct. The preamble to the DOI

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good dolphin wrote:
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good dolphin wrote:
that part of the bill of rights is what's called precatory language: the nice, flowery, aspirational stuff that people quote in speeches on 4th of July but have little legal weight



What?


sorry, got my documents wrong. Life, liberty and the pusuit of happiness is the preamble


Uh, fellas, unless I'm missing something here, the phrase "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" is not included in the Bill or Rights, nor the Constitution.

I think it's solely found in the Declaration of Independence.


correct. The preamble to the DOI


And carries no real weight. B.s. window dressing for never sought ideals.

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good dolphin wrote:
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good dolphin wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
that part of the bill of rights is what's called precatory language: the nice, flowery, aspirational stuff that people quote in speeches on 4th of July but have little legal weight



What?


sorry, got my documents wrong. Life, liberty and the pusuit of happiness is the preamble


Uh, fellas, unless I'm missing something here, the phrase "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" is not included in the Bill or Rights, nor the Constitution.

I think it's solely found in the Declaration of Independence.


correct. The preamble to the DOI


And carries no real weight. B.s. window dressing for never sought ideals.

Let's call it rarely sought.
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Interstate Commerce? "No abortion can be performed within the United States if it uses any device or medication with a nexus to interstate commerce."

or how about

"Fetuses, like corporations and some family pets, are people too. Therefore...under the 14th Amendment:

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but this court is also against expansive readings of that


When it suits them.

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