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Unlike 99% of the posters here I actually interact with humans from every rung of the socioeconomic ladder and all age groups, can tell you that the young kids from even wealthier families want to arm themselves because the know there are tons of armed insane goofs out there that will shoot you in an instant for no reason. Many of the controls that used to be in place to deal with these people have been removed or are no longer enforced.

Unfortunately, this impacts the poor and minority kids immensely as they cannot even go to parties with friends without risking someone pulling a gun and shooting, these types of incidents are completely ignored by the national and local media, the current culture is killing and maiming these kids in massive numbers, but nobody seems to care or have the courage or intellectual ability to do anything about it.

The insane idiots that do the mass shooting seem to gain validation via social media. The crazy kids that used to draw stick figures draped in blood used to be removed from society and placed in a mental health facility, now they get likes on facebook when they post their rants, plenty of ability to out folks for "improper" political thoughts on social media, but the people that post stuff about shooting up schools are somehow not deemed to be a threat?


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U sound like a gun grabber.

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all of this is bad. but this sounds like a normal weekend in chicago. I put in an order to the place I buy my guns. been putting it off but I'm a bit worried about the eventuality of these events continuing to happen.


I would not be surprised if the local shops are busy although with the amount of business they’ve done in the past 2 years it’s hard to imagine demand holding. That said I move had a bolt action rifle on backorder for 6 months. I’m assuming there is a component that they can’t get or a material to make a component is in short supply. Probably material.


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all of this is bad. but this sounds like a normal weekend in chicago. I put in an order to the place I buy my guns. been putting it off but I'm a bit worried about the eventuality of these events continuing to happen.


I would not be surprised if the local shops are busy although with the amount of business they’ve done in the past 2 years it’s hard to imagine demand holding. That said I move had a bolt action rifle on backorder for 6 months. I’m assuming there is a component that they can’t get or a material to make a component is in short supply. Probably material.


Why does the system force good guys to wait six months for the right to protect themselves

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Unlike 99% of the posters here I actually interact with humans from every rung of the socioeconomic ladder and all age groups, can tell you that the young kids from even wealthier families want to arm themselves because the know there are tons of armed insane goofs out there that will shoot you in an instant for no reason. Many of the controls that used to be in place to deal with these people have been removed or are no longer enforced.

Unfortunately, this impacts the poor and minority kids immensely as they cannot even go to parties with friends without risking someone pulling a gun and shooting, these types of incidents are completely ignored by the national and local media, the current culture is killing and maiming these kids in massive numbers, but nobody seems to care or have the courage or intellectual ability to do anything about it.

The insane idiots that do the mass shooting seem to gain validation via social media. The crazy kids that used to draw stick figures draped in blood used to be removed from society and placed in a mental health facility, now they get likes on facebook when they post their rants, plenty of ability to out folks for "improper" political thoughts on social media, but the people that post stuff about shooting up schools are somehow not deemed to be a threat?


my neighbor is up for murder. No priors. Pretty good kid. Something happened at an illegal pop up nightclub during covid and he may or may not have killed two people outside.

That's nothing more than a fistfight just one generation prior, and maybe even less if good friends are present

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Unlike 99% of the posters here I actually interact with humans from every rung of the socioeconomic ladder and all age groups, can tell you that the young kids from even wealthier families want to arm themselves because the know there are tons of armed insane goofs out there that will shoot you in an instant for no reason. Many of the controls that used to be in place to deal with these people have been removed or are no longer enforced.

Unfortunately, this impacts the poor and minority kids immensely as they cannot even go to parties with friends without risking someone pulling a gun and shooting, these types of incidents are completely ignored by the national and local media, the current culture is killing and maiming these kids in massive numbers, but nobody seems to care or have the courage or intellectual ability to do anything about it.

The insane idiots that do the mass shooting seem to gain validation via social media. The crazy kids that used to draw stick figures draped in blood used to be removed from society and placed in a mental health facility, now they get likes on facebook when they post their rants, plenty of ability to out folks for "improper" political thoughts on social media, but the people that post stuff about shooting up schools are somehow not deemed to be a threat?


my neighbor is up for murder. No priors. Pretty good kid. Something happened at an illegal pop up nightclub during covid and he may or may not have killed two people outside.

That's nothing more than a fistfight just one generation prior, and maybe even less if good friends are present

When I was a kid, fights were a norm. It truly was a part of growing up. Beats me if that's part of this problem. An ass whooping isn't something to fear. Maybe it is now.


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Clawmaster wrote:
Unlike 99% of the posters here I actually interact with humans from every rung of the socioeconomic ladder and all age groups, can tell you that the young kids from even wealthier families want to arm themselves because the know there are tons of armed insane goofs out there that will shoot you in an instant for no reason. Many of the controls that used to be in place to deal with these people have been removed or are no longer enforced.

Unfortunately, this impacts the poor and minority kids immensely as they cannot even go to parties with friends without risking someone pulling a gun and shooting, these types of incidents are completely ignored by the national and local media, the current culture is killing and maiming these kids in massive numbers, but nobody seems to care or have the courage or intellectual ability to do anything about it.

The insane idiots that do the mass shooting seem to gain validation via social media. The crazy kids that used to draw stick figures draped in blood used to be removed from society and placed in a mental health facility, now they get likes on facebook when they post their rants, plenty of ability to out folks for "improper" political thoughts on social media, but the people that post stuff about shooting up schools are somehow not deemed to be a threat?


my neighbor is up for murder. No priors. Pretty good kid. Something happened at an illegal pop up nightclub during covid and he may or may not have killed two people outside.

That's nothing more than a fistfight just one generation prior, and maybe even less if good friends are present

When I was a kid, fights were a norm. It truly was a part of growing up. Beats me if that's part of this problem. An ass whooping isn't something to fear. Maybe it is now.


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Unlike 99% of the posters here I actually interact with humans from every rung of the socioeconomic ladder and all age groups, can tell you that the young kids from even wealthier families want to arm themselves because the know there are tons of armed insane goofs out there that will shoot you in an instant for no reason. Many of the controls that used to be in place to deal with these people have been removed or are no longer enforced.

Unfortunately, this impacts the poor and minority kids immensely as they cannot even go to parties with friends without risking someone pulling a gun and shooting, these types of incidents are completely ignored by the national and local media, the current culture is killing and maiming these kids in massive numbers, but nobody seems to care or have the courage or intellectual ability to do anything about it.

The insane idiots that do the mass shooting seem to gain validation via social media. The crazy kids that used to draw stick figures draped in blood used to be removed from society and placed in a mental health facility, now they get likes on facebook when they post their rants, plenty of ability to out folks for "improper" political thoughts on social media, but the people that post stuff about shooting up schools are somehow not deemed to be a threat?


my neighbor is up for murder. No priors. Pretty good kid. Something happened at an illegal pop up nightclub during covid and he may or may not have killed two people outside.

That's nothing more than a fistfight just one generation prior, and maybe even less if good friends are present


In jail awaiting trial, or out on bond?

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hnd wrote:
all of this is bad. but this sounds like a normal weekend in chicago. I put in an order to the place I buy my guns. been putting it off but I'm a bit worried about the eventuality of these events continuing to happen.


I would not be surprised if the local shops are busy although with the amount of business they’ve done in the past 2 years it’s hard to imagine demand holding. That said I move had a bolt action rifle on backorder for 6 months. I’m assuming there is a component that they can’t get or a material to make a component is in short supply. Probably material.


I'd called them the week before and had stuff in stock so we should be good. hopefully. I'm buying kits and not assembled guns.


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hnd wrote:
all of this is bad. but this sounds like a normal weekend in chicago. I put in an order to the place I buy my guns. been putting it off but I'm a bit worried about the eventuality of these events continuing to happen.


I would not be surprised if the local shops are busy although with the amount of business they’ve done in the past 2 years it’s hard to imagine demand holding. That said I move had a bolt action rifle on backorder for 6 months. I’m assuming there is a component that they can’t get or a material to make a component is in short supply. Probably material.


Why does the system force good guys to wait six months for the right to protect themselves



I’ll survive and was expecting it to be a while. I could just buy a simple AR to shoot the coyotes that kill livestock instead of the less practical bolt gun.


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hnd wrote:
all of this is bad. but this sounds like a normal weekend in chicago.


Yeah, in a way I think it's kind of offensive that the White Sox cancelled their fireworks show because of this. I'm not sure if it was supposed to be "out of respect" or what? There are regular shootings a lot closer to their ballpark and the team doesn't weigh in on them at all.

I get that attacking a Fourth of July parade has more psychological and cultural implications than the typical drive-bys and shootouts that happen every weekend, but the loss of life is the same.


I agree with you on the fireworks.

Our history books have never recorded each death or every "insignificant" event. You can't ignore or dismiss the psychological impact or the prominence of the individuals who were murdered. We all understand why all loss of life isn't equal and never will be. It's why MANY of us mourn the loss of an individual soldier lost in battle and not Gang Member Johnny. One to three people being shot and/or killed in separate (mostly gang related) shootings around Chicago is entirely different from dozens of INNOCENT parade goers, high school kids, first graders, or 4th graders being shot or killed by a disturbed kid. Equating them is lazy and done solely for political reasons.

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The media has the wrong focus. The gun grabbers want to go after the rifle guns of the law abiding. Meanwhile while everyone is talking about red flag gun laws more people in the inner cities are being shot and killed on a regular basis. The definition of mass shooting also doesn't seem to include an incident where people are accidentally shot in crossfire. The problem is not "gun violence" it's "gang violence" predominantly with handguns. They could stop a lot of shootings tomorrow in the cities. You would just "stop and frisk" people like you search people before they enter a sporting event. Then if you catch a convicted felon with a gun you put him in jail for a minimum of 1 year. But the problem is the left wing people don't want to do that because that would lock up too many marginalized people. Chicago is still blaming Indiana for the illegal guns in the city. We don't need new laws. There's plenty of felony laws that would lock a lot of people up, but the district attorneys in these cities are ignoring the law.

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hnd wrote:
all of this is bad. but this sounds like a normal weekend in chicago. I put in an order to the place I buy my guns. been putting it off but I'm a bit worried about the eventuality of these events continuing to happen.


I would not be surprised if the local shops are busy although with the amount of business they’ve done in the past 2 years it’s hard to imagine demand holding. That said I move had a bolt action rifle on backorder for 6 months. I’m assuming there is a component that they can’t get or a material to make a component is in short supply. Probably material.


Why does the system force good guys to wait six months for the right to protect themselves



I’ll survive and was expecting it to be a while. I could just buy a simple AR to shoot the coyotes that kill livestock instead of the less practical bolt gun.


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Easily accessible guns are a problem which means guns are a problem. We can go back and forth about the need for "law abiding" citizens all we want but that still won't change the fact that there too many guns in society which means there will always be too many gun toting people in society.

And sorry gun enthusiasts but if someone gets the "ups" on you there is nothing your being possession of a gun is going to do about it. A gun is not the same as a helmut or bullet proof vest. It doesn't shield you from anything. And again I'm not exactly anti gun, but I do know that there are a helluva lot more people in the world that feel a helluva lot tougher with the gun in their hand than they'd ever feel without it.

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The media has the wrong focus. The gun grabbers want to go after the rifle guns of the law abiding. Meanwhile while everyone is talking about red flag gun laws more people in the inner cities are being shot and killed on a regular basis. The definition of mass shooting also doesn't seem to include an incident where people are accidentally shot in crossfire. The problem is not "gun violence" it's "gang violence" predominantly with handguns. They could stop a lot of shootings tomorrow in the cities. You would just "stop and frisk" people like you search people before they enter a sporting event. Then if you catch a convicted felon with a gun you put him in jail for a minimum of 1 year. But the problem is the left wing people don't want to do that because that would lock up too many marginalized people. Chicago is still blaming Indiana for the illegal guns in the city. We don't need new laws. There's plenty of felony laws that would lock a lot of people up, but the district attorneys in these cities are ignoring the law.


So your solution is that instead of having reasonable and rational regulations on the 2nd amendment we should just completely ignore the 4th Amendment? Seems insultingly dumb.


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You have fostered an environment in which nobody can take criticism, where we told every little rotten shit that they're special when 98% of them are absolutely not special, you've told them that every little feeling they have is ok when it's not. You've medicated evey child that, like every 10 year old, is hyper. All the while you've normalized very abnormal feelings and attitudes about identity and self and what is and is not acceptable behavior. You've turned Americas youths into pill popping depressive goons in a single generation and yet when these mind altered over medicated kids do something extremely stupid, you've blamed it on the guns instead of shitty parenting and terrible schooling and awful doctoring.


All that may be true but I still wonder, how would these drugged up kids manage to kill so many people so quickly if they didn't have easy access to high-powered rifles?

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The media has the wrong focus. The gun grabbers want to go after the rifle guns of the law abiding. Meanwhile while everyone is talking about red flag gun laws more people in the inner cities are being shot and killed on a regular basis. The definition of mass shooting also doesn't seem to include an incident where people are accidentally shot in crossfire. The problem is not "gun violence" it's "gang violence" predominantly with handguns. They could stop a lot of shootings tomorrow in the cities. You would just "stop and frisk" people like you search people before they enter a sporting event. Then if you catch a convicted felon with a gun you put him in jail for a minimum of 1 year. But the problem is the left wing people don't want to do that because that would lock up too many marginalized people. Chicago is still blaming Indiana for the illegal guns in the city. We don't need new laws. There's plenty of felony laws that would lock a lot of people up, but the district attorneys in these cities are ignoring the law.


So your solution is that instead of having reasonable and rational regulations on the 2nd amendment we should just completely ignore the 4th Amendment? Seems insultingly dumb.


Is it unreasonable to be searched at an airport, a sporting event or a courthouse? 21 years ago I visited Canada with a friend. The Canadians searched my entire car and removed the backseat of the car. That was before 9-11 too. It's not unreasonable to search people if people in the area are regularly being shot.

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The media has the wrong focus. The gun grabbers want to go after the rifle guns of the law abiding. Meanwhile while everyone is talking about red flag gun laws more people in the inner cities are being shot and killed on a regular basis. The definition of mass shooting also doesn't seem to include an incident where people are accidentally shot in crossfire. The problem is not "gun violence" it's "gang violence" predominantly with handguns. They could stop a lot of shootings tomorrow in the cities. You would just "stop and frisk" people like you search people before they enter a sporting event. Then if you catch a convicted felon with a gun you put him in jail for a minimum of 1 year. But the problem is the left wing people don't want to do that because that would lock up too many marginalized people. Chicago is still blaming Indiana for the illegal guns in the city. We don't need new laws. There's plenty of felony laws that would lock a lot of people up, but the district attorneys in these cities are ignoring the law.


So your solution is that instead of having reasonable and rational regulations on the 2nd amendment we should just completely ignore the 4th Amendment? Seems insultingly dumb.


Is it unreasonable to be searched at an airport, a sporting event or a courthouse? 21 years ago I visited Canada with a friend. The Canadians searched my entire car and removed the backseat of the car. That was before 9-11 too. It's not unreasonable to search people if people in the area are regularly being shot.

You don't see a problem with "random" stop and frisks?

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Nah, Darkside is really well thought out and reasonable when it comes to this issue. He's also tremendously knowledgeable about firearms. Darko is a guy I'd put on a committee to make recommendations for new gun regulations.


Yeah Sandy is definitely well thought out on this stuff.

I say we lock him and DiCaro in a room and tell them to figure out this gun stuff.

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The best answer is just to accept that this is how life is going to be. If it gets bad enough, we may get enough people willing to vote for an Amendment that modifies but doesn't remove the 2A. Until then, just hope it isn't your parade that gets shot up.

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The media has the wrong focus. The gun grabbers want to go after the rifle guns of the law abiding. Meanwhile while everyone is talking about red flag gun laws more people in the inner cities are being shot and killed on a regular basis. The definition of mass shooting also doesn't seem to include an incident where people are accidentally shot in crossfire. The problem is not "gun violence" it's "gang violence" predominantly with handguns. They could stop a lot of shootings tomorrow in the cities. You would just "stop and frisk" people like you search people before they enter a sporting event. Then if you catch a convicted felon with a gun you put him in jail for a minimum of 1 year. But the problem is the left wing people don't want to do that because that would lock up too many marginalized people. Chicago is still blaming Indiana for the illegal guns in the city. We don't need new laws. There's plenty of felony laws that would lock a lot of people up, but the district attorneys in these cities are ignoring the law.


So your solution is that instead of having reasonable and rational regulations on the 2nd amendment we should just completely ignore the 4th Amendment? Seems insultingly dumb.


Here is the current law in Illinois the problem is the Cook County DA lets them plead it off almost all the time

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The basic sentence for unlawful possession of a weapon by a felon in Illinois is a Class 3 felony, which can include between 2 and 10 years in prison. For repeat offenses, the sentence increases to a Class 2 felony, and the length of imprisonment increases to between 3 and 14 years. However, under certain circumstances, a first offense can be charged as a Class 2 felony. This includes cases in which the offender’s prior conviction was for:

A forcible felony, such as aggravated battery, robbery, burglary, sexual assault, or homicide

A violation involving a deadly weapon or FOID

Stalking

A Class 2 or higher felony related to cannabis, methamphetamine, or a controlled substance.

Unlawful possession of a weapon while on parole or under supervised release is also a Class 2 felony, and possession of a machine gun by a felon is a Class X felony, with a possible penalty of 30 or more years in prison.

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The media has the wrong focus. The gun grabbers want to go after the rifle guns of the law abiding. Meanwhile while everyone is talking about red flag gun laws more people in the inner cities are being shot and killed on a regular basis. The definition of mass shooting also doesn't seem to include an incident where people are accidentally shot in crossfire. The problem is not "gun violence" it's "gang violence" predominantly with handguns. They could stop a lot of shootings tomorrow in the cities. You would just "stop and frisk" people like you search people before they enter a sporting event. Then if you catch a convicted felon with a gun you put him in jail for a minimum of 1 year. But the problem is the left wing people don't want to do that because that would lock up too many marginalized people. Chicago is still blaming Indiana for the illegal guns in the city. We don't need new laws. There's plenty of felony laws that would lock a lot of people up, but the district attorneys in these cities are ignoring the law.


So your solution is that instead of having reasonable and rational regulations on the 2nd amendment we should just completely ignore the 4th Amendment? Seems insultingly dumb.


Here is the law for a non felon getting busted,but once again the DA pleads it off too often

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Unlawful possession of firearms, other than handguns, and firearm ammunition is a Class A misdemeanor. Unlawful possession of handguns is a Class 4 felony

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The media has the wrong focus. The gun grabbers want to go after the rifle guns of the law abiding. Meanwhile while everyone is talking about red flag gun laws more people in the inner cities are being shot and killed on a regular basis. The definition of mass shooting also doesn't seem to include an incident where people are accidentally shot in crossfire. The problem is not "gun violence" it's "gang violence" predominantly with handguns. They could stop a lot of shootings tomorrow in the cities. You would just "stop and frisk" people like you search people before they enter a sporting event. Then if you catch a convicted felon with a gun you put him in jail for a minimum of 1 year. But the problem is the left wing people don't want to do that because that would lock up too many marginalized people. Chicago is still blaming Indiana for the illegal guns in the city. We don't need new laws. There's plenty of felony laws that would lock a lot of people up, but the district attorneys in these cities are ignoring the law.


So your solution is that instead of having reasonable and rational regulations on the 2nd amendment we should just completely ignore the 4th Amendment? Seems insultingly dumb.


Is it unreasonable to be searched at an airport, a sporting event or a courthouse? 21 years ago I visited Canada with a friend. The Canadians searched my entire car and removed the backseat of the car. That was before 9-11 too. It's not unreasonable to search people if people in the area are regularly being shot.


1. You are choosing to enter/use an airport or courthouse. There is obviously a lesser expectation of privacy in both of those places.

2. A sporting event is privately run. They could stick a dick up your ass if they wanted to make that a condition to entering.

3. If you want to use Canadian laws to govern the US, I have some bad news for you on what those Canadian laws are going to do as it relates to the ability of people to own guns.

4. It is a violation of the 4th Amendment protections against unreasonable search and seizure to implement the policies that you seem to favor.

Like I said, your solution to this issue seems to be have no reasonable and rational restrictions on the 2nd Amendment, yet completely ignore the freedoms guaranteed by the 4th Amendment. To say that lacks consistency is an understatement.


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We haven't exactly cared about the 4th amendment for a while.

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The media has the wrong focus. The gun grabbers want to go after the rifle guns of the law abiding. Meanwhile while everyone is talking about red flag gun laws more people in the inner cities are being shot and killed on a regular basis. The definition of mass shooting also doesn't seem to include an incident where people are accidentally shot in crossfire. The problem is not "gun violence" it's "gang violence" predominantly with handguns. They could stop a lot of shootings tomorrow in the cities. You would just "stop and frisk" people like you search people before they enter a sporting event. Then if you catch a convicted felon with a gun you put him in jail for a minimum of 1 year. But the problem is the left wing people don't want to do that because that would lock up too many marginalized people. Chicago is still blaming Indiana for the illegal guns in the city. We don't need new laws. There's plenty of felony laws that would lock a lot of people up, but the district attorneys in these cities are ignoring the law.


So your solution is that instead of having reasonable and rational regulations on the 2nd amendment we should just completely ignore the 4th Amendment? Seems insultingly dumb.


Here is the law for a non felon getting busted,but once again the DA pleads it off too often

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Unlawful possession of firearms, other than handguns, and firearm ammunition is a Class A misdemeanor. Unlawful possession of handguns is a Class 4 felony


1. Nothing you are posting has any relevance to 4th amendment prohibitions against unreasonable search and seizures.

2. You realize that people who plea bargain cases go to jail right? You know that right? I'm not sure that you do. I think you believe that if a guy plea bargains a first degree murder charge he walks out of jail that day. That's not how it works. Also for better or worse, the judge can reject a plea bargain, so it isn't like guys are catching plea bargained probation sentences all day long on Class X felonies.


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everyone talking about banning guns when they should be talking about banning parades

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Nothing that looks and acts like that bag of shit did should pass any kind of background check for anything. It should take about 5 seconds of interaction for anyone to realize that he is completely fucked and turn him around and escort him right back out the door.

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Nothing that looks and acts like that bag of shit did should pass any kind of background check for anything. It should take about 5 seconds of interaction for anyone to realize that he is completely fucked and turn him around and escort him right back out the door.


Why do you hate small businesses trying to make a sale.

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Nothing that looks and acts like that bag of shit did should pass any kind of background check for anything. It should take about 5 seconds of interaction for anyone to realize that he is completely fucked and turn him around and escort him right back out the door.


Why do you hate small businesses trying to make a sale.


The state isn't a small business.

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