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The first known family interaction with police was when the now accused shooter was almost two years old. His mother, Denise Pesina, was arrested for endangering the life of a child after she was accused of leaving Bobby in a car with the windows rolled up on a hot day for nearly 30 minutes.

https://abc7chicago.com/highland-park-i ... e=facebook

I'm not surprised that these people exist, but I am surprised they could swing Highland Park.

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The first known family interaction with police was when the now accused shooter was almost two years old. His mother, Denise Pesina, was arrested for endangering the life of a child after she was accused of leaving Bobby in a car with the windows rolled up on a hot day for nearly 30 minutes.

https://abc7chicago.com/highland-park-i ... e=facebook

I'm not surprised that these people exist, but I am surprised they could swing Highland Park.


I don't think $150k household income is that extreme. His mother seems like a nut that's tolerated because she's attractive.

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I agree with you on this. I will also add that the local PD failed on making sure in notifying the State PD about his behavior. If they had done so he would not have gotten the FOID. Plus,when they responded to the second call they should have put him under a 72 hour mental health hold in a hospital,that would have also prevented the FOID


Highland Park Police DID notify Illinois State Police. ISP chose to ignore the warning.

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I wonder if chas has any "we should do what Nazi Germany would have done" ideas for that one.

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I recently saw a story about a 12-year-old Colorado middle schooler who didn't get any yearbook signatures. He asked a lot of people and they all refused. His mom posted about the ordeal on her Facebook and then Paul Rudd came to the rescue -- Facetimed him and sent a nice note and some Ant Man memorabilia.

I immediately thought two things. That's the kind of kid who may come back and shoot up the school or the high school that he'll eventually go to. And also, why didn't anyone sign his yearbook? Are kids this evil? I remember when someone I didn't really hang around or talk much with, who I knew was a bit of an outcast, would come up to me and ask for a yearbook signature -- did I think it was a little weird, sure. But, I'd take the 5 seconds to write HAGS and sign my name.


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I've said this many times here, but it is worth restating: Many school or workplace shooters are severely bullied/ostracized prior to becoming violent. Mark Ames details this phenomenon in his very interesting book, Going Postal. He also links the rise of Reagan/neoliberalism with a sharp increase in mass shootings. The book is definitely worth checking out.

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I immediately thought two things. That's the kind of kid who may come back and shoot up the school or the high school that he'll eventually go to. And also, why didn't anyone sign his yearbook? Are kids this evil? I remember when someone I didn't really hang around or talk much with, who I knew was a bit of an outcast, would come up to me and ask for a yearbook signature -- did I think it was a little weird, sure. But, I'd take the 5 seconds to write HAGS and sign my name.


In 18 years I have never once had a kid get zero signatures on a yearbook that was asking people to sign.

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I recently saw a story about a 12-year-old Colorado middle schooler who didn't get any yearbook signatures.



Since when do 7th graders have yearbooks? The only yearbook worth buying when I was in school
was your Senior year yearbook. We didn't even have yearbooks prior to high school. fucking weirdos in Colorado.
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I've said this many times here, but it is worth restating: Many school or workplace shooters are severely bullied/ostracized prior to becoming violent. Mark Ames details this phenomenon in his very interesting book, Going Postal. He also links the rise of Reagan/neoliberalism with a sharp increase in mass shootings. The book is definitely worth checking out.


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I've said this many times here, but it is worth restating: Many school or workplace shooters are severely bullied/ostracized prior to becoming violent. Mark Ames details this phenomenon in his very interesting book, Going Postal. He also links the rise of Reagan/neoliberalism with a sharp increase in mass shootings. The book is definitely worth checking out.

It's the price of neoliberalism and we should be happy to pay it.

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Tall Midget wrote:
I've said this many times here, but it is worth restating: Many school or workplace shooters are severely bullied/ostracized prior to becoming violent. Mark Ames details this phenomenon in his very interesting book, Going Postal. He also links the rise of Reagan/neoliberalism with a sharp increase in mass shootings. The book is definitely worth checking out.

It seems like workplace shootings are going down while school shootings are going way up. We don't even get to have Dwight Schrutes anymore because they either already do it in high school or never become employable in the first place.

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With most workplaces being either completely or mostly remote, you'd have to Gabe Wortman it
and drive house to house shooting mofos to properly shoot up a workplace nowadays.


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Hmmm. Feels like there’s something missing from this video.

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Hmmm. Feels like there’s something missing from this video.

DIY gallows?

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I recently saw a story about a 12-year-old Colorado middle schooler who didn't get any yearbook signatures.



Since when do 7th graders have yearbooks? The only yearbook worth buying when I was in school
was your Senior year yearbook. We didn't even have yearbooks prior to high school. fucking weirdos in Colorado.
No wonder their kids shoot up the place on the regular.


Herrick gave us yearbooks. Belle Aire even did it for 6th grade. My middle school in AZ did it too. All free.


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Hmmm. Feels like there’s something missing from this video.

DIY gallows?


No sorry. I was looking for “what is a dead white woman?” I would have also accepted “DRUMPH!”

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Hmmm. Feels like there’s something missing from this video.


Over the past 4 decades, revolutions in Iran, Chile, Poland, Thailand, the Philippines, Egypt, Kenya, Panama, East Germany, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, etc were largely or entirely nonviolent.

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Hmmm. Feels like there’s something missing from this video.

DIY gallows?


No sorry. I was looking for “what is a dead white woman?” I would have also accepted “DRUMPH!”

Hang Sri Lankan Mike Pence!! Or Sri Lankan Mike’s pants!

I’m not picky, just hang something.

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I've said this many times here, but it is worth restating: Many school or workplace shooters are severely bullied/ostracized prior to becoming violent. Mark Ames details this phenomenon in his very interesting book, Going Postal. He also links the rise of Reagan/neoliberalism with a sharp increase in mass shootings. The book is definitely worth checking out.

Its been roundly dismissed b/c of statements like this:

“Rage as we know it today did not exist when Ronald Reagan took power in 1981.”

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Tall Midget wrote:
I've said this many times here, but it is worth restating: Many school or workplace shooters are severely bullied/ostracized prior to becoming violent. Mark Ames details this phenomenon in his very interesting book, Going Postal. He also links the rise of Reagan/neoliberalism with a sharp increase in mass shootings. The book is definitely worth checking out.

Its been roundly dismissed b/c of statements like this:

“Rage as we know it today did not exist when Ronald Reagan took power in 1981.”

make sense


yeah...1966 texas sniper, 1927 a school in michigan is blown up...crazies through the ages. it appears as though the psychiatry and pharmaceutical industries have framed the narrative: you will likely get condemned for 'giving up' on some one who is a loose canon: if you try and get them committed. they will tell you this isn't 1505 and today we have sophisticated psychiatry and powerful pharmaceuticals to treat mental illness - irrespective of type of illness and degree of illness.

i do see the reagan connection as reagan cut funding for mental institutions - when he repealed carter's mental health systems act of 1980. when i was a kid no one wanted to end up at the funny farm.


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Battle Ask wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
I've said this many times here, but it is worth restating: Many school or workplace shooters are severely bullied/ostracized prior to becoming violent. Mark Ames details this phenomenon in his very interesting book, Going Postal. He also links the rise of Reagan/neoliberalism with a sharp increase in mass shootings. The book is definitely worth checking out.

Its been roundly dismissed b/c of statements like this:

“Rage as we know it today did not exist when Ronald Reagan took power in 1981.”

make sense


He's pointing out that mass shooting as a form of rage wasn't a common phenomenon prior to the neoliberal era.

Try harder, coward.

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I've said this many times here, but it is worth restating: Many school or workplace shooters are severely bullied/ostracized prior to becoming violent. Mark Ames details this phenomenon in his very interesting book, Going Postal. He also links the rise of Reagan/neoliberalism with a sharp increase in mass shootings. The book is definitely worth checking out.

Its been roundly dismissed b/c of statements like this:

“Rage as we know it today did not exist when Ronald Reagan took power in 1981.”

make sense


He's pointing out that mass shooting as a form of rage wasn't a common phenomenon prior to the neoliberal era.

Try harder, coward.

Something something causality correlation.

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Neoliberalism also brought us the iPhone and avocado toast. There is always tradeoffs.

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I've said this many times here, but it is worth restating: Many school or workplace shooters are severely bullied/ostracized prior to becoming violent. Mark Ames details this phenomenon in his very interesting book, Going Postal. He also links the rise of Reagan/neoliberalism with a sharp increase in mass shootings. The book is definitely worth checking out.

Its been roundly dismissed b/c of statements like this:

“Rage as we know it today did not exist when Ronald Reagan took power in 1981.”

make sense


He's pointing out that mass shooting as a form of rage wasn't a common phenomenon prior to the neoliberal era.

Try harder, coward.

Something something causality correlation.


Have you read the book?

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I recently saw a story about a 12-year-old Colorado middle schooler who didn't get any yearbook signatures.



Since when do 7th graders have yearbooks? The only yearbook worth buying when I was in school
was your Senior year yearbook. We didn't even have yearbooks prior to high school. fucking weirdos in Colorado.
No wonder their kids shoot up the place on the regular.


Herrick gave us yearbooks. Belle Aire even did it for 6th grade. My middle school in AZ did it too. All free.

Hell I have them going all the way back to 1st grade.

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Do Arkansas schools even have grades higher than 1st?

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Do Arkansas schools even have grades higher than 1st?

They have now gotten to the point of having all 12 years, lots of progress made.

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They have now gotten to the point of having all 12 years, lots of progress made.



I just read that Arkansas students are far ahead of their New York counterparts due to the lockdowns. It should be interesting in a few years when the barefoot children of Hillbilly Pete are shoving the children of the East Coast grandees out of the way.

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I doubt anyone will be moving to Arkansas or Mississippi in search of a quality education any time soon. I'm sure both states have a few quality schools, but their overall system sucks.

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