My apartment is in a building that has 24 three-bedroom units, 48 two-bedroom units, 48 one-bedroom units and 48 studios. I own a three bedroom unit. The three-bedroom unit owners have more votes than the two-bedroom owners who have more votes than the one-bedroom owners and so on. But some of the Orthodox families with a lot of children are trying to change the rules so the votes are based upon how many people live in each unit. Am I wrong for objecting?

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I assume votes are structured that way based on how much each unit is valued (with three units costing more)? Or maybe the three unit spaces collectively take up more real estate. I don't know. I also feel like this post is trying to open up a larger electoral college vs popular vote debate so maybe I should just cease commenting until I see which side is winning.

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Have you tried disenfranchising the Orthodox?

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Move

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Votes by number of guns.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Go to the next board meeting and enter by breaking a window and climbing through. Make sure you have pepper spray, zip ties, and a mock Gallows pole as well. Also, bring a camera so you can claim to be just a tourist taking a selfie.

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Honestly, the way the rules appear to be drawn up as described in your first post make the most sense. It should have zero bearing on the situation how many people are living there. Is there something in particular a higher head count and more votes would allow a group to change at the condo?

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None of you should have voting rights since you’re not landowners. I’m sure that was the condo bylaw writer’s intent.

Why are they wanting to change the rules? What are they wanting to accomplish?

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Most of the Orthodox Jews live on the side of the building that faces California. They think it's undemocratic that my wife and I get as many or more votes than they do when they have 5-10 people in their apartments and we only have two.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

No one is changing the rules. JOrr wants to use this thread to play GOTCHA with regard to the Electoral College.

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you joke, but you actually are speaking truth. A condo owner doesn't own land

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I believe the state statute requires percentage ownership based on square footage. I don't know if I'm remembering correctly. It might be original asking price (under the theory that not all equal unit sizes are equal in stake) The HOA attorney certainly knows.

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As a thinly veiled satirical post about the electoral college, I must applaud the effort.

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Of course you should object. The number of people living there has no bearing on the votes.

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Correct. It is a Representative Condo. Not a democracy.

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I'll defer to you on Illinois Civil law, but certainly from a policy perspective it makes sense. If the building is going to have a special assessment for a communal need (roof, plumbing, etc.) they are going to assess the owners based on square footage, so it only makes sense that the owners who will most bear the burden of a vote to enact an assessment should have more voting power.

Tell your neighbors that if they will make assessments for projects based on the number of people in each unit, then you'll be willing to discuss voting by head count.

Also, square footage is essentially a fixed and determinable standard. The headcount per unit can change on a daily basis or be manipulated. For instance, if you knew that a vote was upcoming, you and your wife could just ask Jean Jacket Joe to "move" in with you guys to get a third vote.

You're correct. But this particular situation explains in part why I don't ever want to live in the air rights of a condo.

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Maybe Mike North knows?

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He generally owns a percentage interest in the common elements which includes land.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Sounds undemocratic.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Inherently.

those HOA meetings at Cabrini Greenberg must take 5 hours

The law firm must make whoever has the least seniority attend.

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I will privately celebrate my moral victory of claiming real estate space may matter before others who know more also confirmed.

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T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
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So are we to assume that JORR thinks a nation and a condo association are similar entities?

If that's the case shouldn't Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates have far more votes than ordinary people like JORR?

Sounds like JORR is an emerging prophet of the plutocracy!

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Me too....YAY SUBURBS!!!

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Perhaps Propaganda Joe (Not To Be Confused With Proposition Joe) is simply unaware of the "facts" as usual.

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Aren't most association rules and bylaws setup so it's practically impossible to change rules? My prior one needed 75 of unit owners to change anything
And that wasnt 75 percent of votes received. It was 75 percent of owners. It was impossible to get 75 percent of the owners to do anything especially a minor change.

Tell the jews to go fuck themselves, they knew the rules when they bought.

Me thinks that this is all simply a figment of Propaganda Joe's imagination.

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