*Have not taken the vaccine*

Will give you the 500 foot and the 50,000 foot views.

Had several experienced RN's leave my unit during COVID, then several more leave soon after, and then several more leave during the past sixmonths, this is a system wide problem, when you are running at 50% staffing levels it certainly impacts care.

Then you throw in the nationwide numbers showing that the crisis will only get worse over the next few years and you eventually get into situations where there will not be enough RN's to safely operate hospital units. Already see smaller hospitals divert patients to us because they do not have enough staff to provide care, this is also true of SNF's, which causes us to keep people in the hospital longer because there is nowhere to discharge them for rehab.

The bigger places are able to overpay for travel RN staff, but that creates an almost mercenary approach to providing health care to human beings, most of my younger staff have already left to join travel companies, many of these nurses had only one year of acute care experience and were not exactly experts by any means, so you get inexperienced people chasing contracts that have no allegiance to the communities they are working in, so you can imagine how that impacts patient care/outcomes.

In many ways COVID has completely changed the entire acute healthcare system, but most people have no idea this is going on and will only find out if they have to access the system. The hospital administrators and state/federal politicians are nowhere near smart enough to figure this out, so it falls on those of us working on the front lines to try to make it work, that is until we get sick of it and bail. There are ways this could be mitigated, but the state/federal decision makers will continue to rely on the academic figurehead types whose lack of vision has created this environment in the first place, so expect it to get much worse before it gets better.

Did appreciate Biden using some of my fellow medical professionals as props during his campaign, but it seems he has forgot about healthcare completely and is instead focused on....well not really sure what he is focused on these days.

You are killing people!

I have not had Covid. Have been tested, home tests and lab test when others around me had Covid. Wife and daughter had Covid. I thought for sure I would get it because of the close contact. Tested 6 times over two weeks and no signs of Covid.

No idea why I have not had it. Been exposed to it from co-workers, friends and family. Large events, amusement parks, water parks exc. Was tested when Co-Workers had Covid and when notified someone in my family had it and I was around them.

My guess would be that I have had it, but nothing where I felt more then common cold symptoms and no need to get tested. Maybe when others around me got Covid, I was already immune?

*Have not taken the vaccine*

Significantly more people would have died, and society may have actually been destroyed. Are you putting any thought into this?

President Trump: My fellow Americans, there is a new, highly contagious, and somewhat deadly virus in our country. We don't really understand it. We think older adults and people with preexisting conditions are likelier to die if they contact it. We aren't positive, though. Here's the thing; we can't do anything about it right now. We need you to carry on with your lives. If you or someone else feels sick, we need you to stay out of our hospitals. We need them for other things. God, bless America.

Reporter: Mr. President, other countries are taking steps to reduce the spread, why do you think that is the wrong approach?

President Trump: We're a country of enormous faith; we will live by it. No more questions!

There would have been a run on the banks, no one would have gone to work, and violent crime would have been at levels most of us couldn't imagine. To maintain "order," every government has to show that they are doing something. This is why every government in the world did something.

How am I killing people? Vaccinated still spread the virus

You show you are doing something by investing research for theraputics and ultimately some kind of vaccine. That was completely bastardized. I'm not disagreeing with you....I do agree there has to be a sign of progress and citizens need to be confident in their elected officials. Sadly, our elected officials quite literally did everything wrong. The destruction far outweighed the savings and many saw it coming.

It didn't help when the Biden administration made it mandatory for RN's to be vaccinated. Lost a lot of people who where willing to risk their lives to help people. Many of the vaccinated quit for fear of dying. How's that for ironic.

Why do you believe you have dodged multiple variants? Have you been tested? Have the people closely related to you dodged it too?

was at a show last night, a venue that previously required vaxx to enter does not now. "our policy changed"

Why would anyone ever get tested ?

That's not what Biden told us.


Wait.... if both vaxxed and non vaxxed can spread.....and a majority of the population have mild symptoms..why would people care if others have the vaxx?

Well said, the funny thing is that I had at least one RN leave due to vaccination mandates only to join a travel company that did not require vaccination.

Those of us that worked during the initial outbreak almost all got COVID at some point, so out immune systems have likely developed resistance to the point that while we may test positive, we will not get very sick and will have either minor on no symptoms when we get infected. We are required to get a flu shot every fall, and expect we will get the flu and COVID shots each fall for the foreseeable future, but they are touting a PO med that is in development we will take instead of vaccinations, so maybe that will be more palatable for people?

I want to have as much "armor" as I can, so I get shots/boosters. Regularly interact with Oncology patients when I do inpatient Chemotherapy, so try to be as protected as possible.

The purpose of this thread is to get a tally of our covid dodgers and to see if there's anything we have in common. There are more than enough covid and political grievance threads to restate the same complaints in.

wasn't complaining, and the purpose of the thread is for you to troll like usual

Keep pursuing victimhood. It may eventually pay off. In the meantime, I won't put you down as a covid dodger.

no clue what you're talking about

Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.

Again, your comprehension needs work.

There would have been a run on the banks, no one would have gone to work, and violent crime would have been at levels most of us couldn't imagine. To maintain "order," every government has to show that they are doing something. This is why every government in the world did something.

Probably. That's why the lie about masks was the absolute right thing to do. But the rest of it, lockdowns and so forth, telling healthy young people they are going to die? Wrong.

preliminary studies on why some folks seem impervious to COVID while others drop dead at first contact appear to have caught scientists by surprise. Mayana Katz and her team in South America hypothesized that individuals resistant to COVID would have some sort of genetic variation or mutation that left off or otherwise blocked the pathway COVID takes to infection in the human body, especially something called ACE2.

But when Katz's team looked at the DNA of covid-resistant individuals, they saw no mutations or variations or deletions among the genes responsible for immune response activity. The covid-resistant group had perfectly normal dna in that regard.

Then they looked at the DNA of people who got COVID and especially those who got it bad and found all manner of genetic mutations, "faulty genes" in their words. They even identified some genetic fail that whether you're 80 or 20, if you have this one genetic mutation and you get COVID, you're a goner.

So if you're among the lucky minority who have never gotten covid you're not some sort of super human, you just have normal, par genes.

Kind of fucked up that apparently the majority of the world's population--at least the 1st world's population, where COVID is more prevalent than in 3rd world or developing countries--have shite DNA that makes us susceptible to a cheap, low-quality Chinese virus.

So if you're among the lucky minority who have never gotten covid you're not some sort of super human, you just have normal, par genes.