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Even as a not particularly religious person I'd posit that the Bible is superior to the Constitution. But at the same time it remains of paramount importance to look critically at how each was crafted and by whom. But it seems to me that many cannot accept the latter, but only that both are sacrosanct and that their drafters are infallible. Which imho is nonsensical.



Of course their drafters weren't infallible. That's a hard case to make if you believe the Bible is the Word of God though. :lol:


The "Word" is obviously separate from those that drafted it Jorr.


The assumption is that they were taking dictation.

Also re: the Constitution. I don't think the drafters were infallible, just a lot less fallible than Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell, Schiff, Swalwell, Biden, and DRUMPF.


Yeah an "assumption" made by Zealots usually. Ironically I once wrote a review of a Book titled "God: The Evidence" for a History of Religion class that I took. I went into it "objectively" believing that the book was going to provide "the evidence" for me. At the end what I discovered it that it simply boiled down to what each individual believes regarding the existence of God :lol: :lol:

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Every time JORR talks about the gheys there’s this undercurrent of hostility. I’m sure there’s an explanation for that.


There's no undercurrent of anything. I say exactly what I mean.

I just understand the position of the Catholic Church. And it's a position held by many other religions and societies across the globe.

I'll say one more time- I'm an atheist. And I don't care what consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedrooms. But if we're talking about society and how we're all connected to each other- and after the COVID response it's very difficult to suddenly go back to unchecked individualism- then yeah, we all do have an interest in the sexual mores of others.

You're married with at least one kid. I'm sure you and your wife enjoy your sexual relations. But I doubt you would say sex is the centerpiece of your relationship. I assume it's a lot deeper than that. But homosexual relationships are centered on sex and sex alone. Because there is nothing else.
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That's why a float in a Pride parade features sexual themes like Hot Boys in Ass Chaps. If they had a Hetero Parade the float might show you at a desk working on a Motion to Compel while your wife cooks dinner.

Again, I'm not judgmental. I have plenty of gay friends. I hear them talk too. And sure, you can find a gay couple that has been together for fifty years and never had sex within anyone but each other and live almost like you and your wife. But that's an outlier. And you know it.

I'll give you another example. If you cheated on your wife with some hot twenty year old girl, you would be a pariah in your circle of friends. Your closest guy friends may be jealous and give you a high five when you were out drinking, but you would be judged and seen as a "bad guy" who hurt his wife. If a guy in a gay relationship- marriage or otherwise- banged some hot young twink, there would be no such judgment in most cases. In fact, friends of the couple would be like, "Damn, that kid was GOR-GUS! Of course, Bruce had to hit it when he had the chance." And everyone would go on about his business.

That's just the way it is. Human beings are mammals that procreate through sex. Homosexuality isn't normal. Whether it's good for society is also a question and one that became much more pertinent in light of the fact that we allowed COVID to put everyone in everyone else's business.

I said what I meant. There's no undercurrent. Go suck a dick if you want. I won't think less of you. I'll still buy you a drink. And I'll still support you raking RFDC in the Better Call Saul thread.



Really? Is there polling for this?


Do we really need polling? Gay relationships, generally speaking, aren't about building families.

This isn't some mystery. Men are designed to spread their seed all over to influence the gene pool as much as possible. I'm not going to spout some crazy conservatism like "sex is something that is done to women" rather than something they enjoy. But there are physical differences between men and women, though it seems that isn't so obvious to MANY these days. So you take women out of the equation and all you're left with is dudes that constantly want to rock off.


As exciting as it may be to have sex based relationships, I suspect the overwhelming majority of homosexual relationships are as "boring" as the ones most of us have had. Also, you don't have to have kids to build family. There are MANY heterosexual couples who "build family" without procreating. Is it "normal"? No.


I'm married and I don't have or want kids. I'm not sure if you would call my wife and me a "family" though. I guess I will be "judgmental" of myself now. We could be called selfish and I'm not sure that would be wrong.

If you're not having children and raising the next generation, what's your purpose? Just to have as much pleasure as possible?

What's the traditional marriage vows say? Anything about family?


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What's the traditional marriage vows say? Anything about family?


Genesis 1:28

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What's the traditional marriage vows say? Anything about family?


Genesis 1:28

Why isn't "be fruitful and multiply" in the traditional marriage ceremony? I hear all the time that the purpose of marriage essentially comes down to family. The argument makes sense as humans are obsessed with hierarchy. Yet nary a word in the actual sacred ceremony.


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Nardi wrote:
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What's the traditional marriage vows say? Anything about family?


Genesis 1:28

Why isn't "be fruitful and multiply" in the traditional marriage ceremony? I hear all the time that the purpose of marriage essentially comes down to family. The argument makes sense as humans are obsessed with hierarchy. Yet nary a word in the actual sacred ceremony.


not twoo

there are questions precedent to the vows

assuming a roman catholic celebration of matrimony is within your contemplation of "actual sacred ceremony"

i shouldn't make that assumption in this den of iniquity

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The claim that it isn't "normal". That's textbook bigotry. It is "normal" if the person is homosexual.
By this logic if a gay man says that fucking a vagina or marrying a woman isn't normal, he is a bigot.

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the amount of time the irreligious spend posting about religion is rivaled by the time spent by cubs fans posting in the sox section

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the amount of time the irreligious spend posting about religion is rivaled by the time spent by cubs fans posting in the sox section

I am guilty of this :lol: Admittedly, I do find the historical aspects of religion very interesting.

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the amount of time the irreligious spend posting about religion is rivaled by the time spent by cubs fans posting in the sox section

I am guilty of this :lol: Admittedly, I do find the historical aspects of religion very interesting.


Yeah, and there's the fact that Christianity informs American society in a way that is inescapable. Which I would guess is why there are those who focus on the perceived bigotry of Christianity while never mentioning that Muslims toss homosexuals off of buildings or the stigma around being gay in China.

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What's the traditional marriage vows say? Anything about family?


Genesis 1:28

Why isn't "be fruitful and multiply" in the traditional marriage ceremony? I hear all the time that the purpose of marriage essentially comes down to family. The argument makes sense as humans are obsessed with hierarchy. Yet nary a word in the actual sacred ceremony.


not twoo

there are questions precedent to the vows

assuming a roman catholic celebration of matrimony is within your contemplation of "actual sacred ceremony"

i shouldn't make that assumption in this den of iniquity

Which are?


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the amount of time the irreligious spend posting about religion is rivaled by the time spent by cubs fans posting in the sox section

I am guilty of this :lol: Admittedly, I do find the historical aspects of religion very interesting.


Yeah, and there's the fact that Christianity informs American society in a way that is inescapable. Which I would guess is why there are those who focus on the perceived bigotry of Christianity while never mentioning that Muslims toss homosexuals off of buildings or the stigma around being gay in China.


No one has ever denied that either group does either of the things that you state. However "Good Christians' have also been shown to partake in MANY of the same things. Only it seems to always escape of your ever present gaze for some reason. That is when you aren't minimalizing altogether.

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the amount of time the irreligious spend posting about religion is rivaled by the time spent by cubs fans posting in the sox section
Caller Bob has found a loophole to these post counts by starting threads about Sox players in the MLB section.

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the amount of time the irreligious spend posting about religion is rivaled by the time spent by cubs fans posting in the sox section

I am guilty of this :lol: Admittedly, I do find the historical aspects of religion very interesting.


Yeah, and there's the fact that Christianity informs American society in a way that is inescapable. Which I would guess is why there are those who focus on the perceived bigotry of Christianity while never mentioning that Muslims toss homosexuals off of buildings or the stigma around being gay in China.


No one has ever denied that either group does either of the things that you state. However "Good Christians' have also been shown to partake in MANY of the same things. Only it seems to always escape of your ever present gaze for some reason. That is when you aren't minimalizing altogether.


Really? Can you show me the Christian doctrine that demands the death penalty for same sex intercourse the way Hadith does?

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Nardi wrote:
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What's the traditional marriage vows say? Anything about family?


Genesis 1:28

Why isn't "be fruitful and multiply" in the traditional marriage ceremony? I hear all the time that the purpose of marriage essentially comes down to family. The argument makes sense as humans are obsessed with hierarchy. Yet nary a word in the actual sacred ceremony.


not twoo

there are questions precedent to the vows

assuming a roman catholic celebration of matrimony is within your contemplation of "actual sacred ceremony"

i shouldn't make that assumption in this den of iniquity

Which are?


you want me to hold you dick when you piss, as well?

wait, that's not one of the questions

fuck it, I'm feeling charitable

(Name) and (name), have you come here to enter into Marriage without coercion, freely and wholeheartedly?"
"Are you prepared, as you follow the path of Marriage, to love and honor each other for as long as you both shall live?"
"Are you prepared to accept children lovingly from God and to bring them up according to the law of Christ and his Church?"

The bride and groom respond "I have" or "I am" (The Order of Celebrating Matrimony #60).

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good dolphin wrote:
the amount of time the irreligious spend posting about religion is rivaled by the time spent by cubs fans posting in the sox section
Caller Bob has found a loophole to these post counts by starting threads about Sox players in the MLB section.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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the amount of time the irreligious spend posting about religion is rivaled by the time spent by cubs fans posting in the sox section

I am guilty of this :lol: Admittedly, I do find the historical aspects of religion very interesting.


Yeah, and there's the fact that Christianity informs American society in a way that is inescapable. Which I would guess is why there are those who focus on the perceived bigotry of Christianity while never mentioning that Muslims toss homosexuals off of buildings or the stigma around being gay in China.


No one has ever denied that either group does either of the things that you state. However "Good Christians' have also been shown to partake in MANY of the same things. Only it seems to always escape of your ever present gaze for some reason. That is when you aren't minimalizing altogether.


Really? Can you show me the Christian doctrine that demands the death penalty for same sex intercourse the way Hadith does?


It isn't even sinful in catholic theology to be a homersexual

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
BigW72 wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
the amount of time the irreligious spend posting about religion is rivaled by the time spent by cubs fans posting in the sox section

I am guilty of this :lol: Admittedly, I do find the historical aspects of religion very interesting.


Yeah, and there's the fact that Christianity informs American society in a way that is inescapable. Which I would guess is why there are those who focus on the perceived bigotry of Christianity while never mentioning that Muslims toss homosexuals off of buildings or the stigma around being gay in China.


No one has ever denied that either group does either of the things that you state. However "Good Christians' have also been shown to partake in MANY of the same things. Only it seems to always escape of your ever present gaze for some reason. That is when you aren't minimalizing altogether.


Really? Can you show me the Christian doctrine that demands the death penalty for same sex intercourse the way Hadith does?


Guy actually read it inside of the Chambers of Congress
https://www.metroweekly.com/2016/06/geo ... -to-death/

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According to Roll Call, Allen read Revelations 22:18-19 and Romans 1:18-32 during the meeting last month. Romans 1:27 condemns homosexuality and suggests that those who engage in it will be punished accordingly.

The King James version of the passage reads: “Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one for another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.”

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It isn't even sinful in catholic theology to be a homersexual
What about an Aesopsexual?

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It isn't even sinful in catholic theology to be a homersexual
What about an Aesopsexual?


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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good dolphin wrote:
the amount of time the irreligious spend posting about religion is rivaled by the time spent by cubs fans posting in the sox section

I am guilty of this :lol: Admittedly, I do find the historical aspects of religion very interesting.


Yeah, and there's the fact that Christianity informs American society in a way that is inescapable. Which I would guess is why there are those who focus on the perceived bigotry of Christianity while never mentioning that Muslims toss homosexuals off of buildings or the stigma around being gay in China.


No one has ever denied that either group does either of the things that you state. However "Good Christians' have also been shown to partake in MANY of the same things. Only it seems to always escape of your ever present gaze for some reason. That is when you aren't minimalizing altogether.


Really? Can you show me the Christian doctrine that demands the death penalty for same sex intercourse the way Hadith does?


Guy actually read it inside of the Chambers of Congress
https://www.metroweekly.com/2016/06/geo ... -to-death/

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According to Roll Call, Allen read Revelations 22:18-19 and Romans 1:18-32 during the meeting last month. Romans 1:27 condemns homosexuality and suggests that those who engage in it will be punished accordingly.
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The King James version of the passage reads: “Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one for another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.”



I suppose you could read Romans that way. But within the context of the New Testament I would take "death" to mean a spiritual death, i.e. not walking in the light of Jesus Christ.

Matthew 5:38-39

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I was touring around dublin on sunday and was in front of its oldest church right around mass time so i thought i'd pop in for my obligation. The family is all yelling at me but I insist. We get in and I hear some woman doing the consecration (or not) and I'm all
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I high tailed it out of there before the stink of protestantism attached to me while my family laughed.

Church of Ireland, my rear. Should have run those traitors out of town by the time the ink had dried on the separation agreement

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Nope. That's not how it works. You don't even understand that which you hold in contempt.

Then explain it. If you get married to a person of the same gender you are destined to go to hell. Correct?

How do you avoid hell?

There is no hell. Purdue Rick, your soul gets annihilated. You won't even know if there's a heaven or hell. Pretty cool, huh? Natural selection.

I hope you are right.

OR, You will be thrown in the lake of fire to annihilate Your soul. How much pain is involved and for how long, I don't know. Could be awhile seeing as you insist something comes from nothing. This is just a guess, but a serial killer who at least believed in a higher power than themselves, might have it easier. You've picked a fight with God on a personal level.


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