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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 1:56 pm 
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The only psychic I would believe would have to show me at least one billion dollars in his or her bank account.


There are people being paid for their viewing ability and not just as some storefront gypsy. As I said, the military has used parapsychology as an informational gathering tool and it did prove to have a level of reliability better than what you would expect from just guessing. However, that level was not anywhere near 100%. I think their conclusion was that it had useful application but was only used in conjunction with other intelligence gathering.

You don't need to be 100% to make yourself incredibly rich knowing the future. That means either no one can do it or the people who can do it aren't selling their services in a 3 bedroom house on a busy street in the suburbs.

To put it another way, I hand you a phone and I say "You can tell good dolphin from 3 days ago 10 things about what has happened but only 7 of them will still come true" and with a small amount of effort you have at least $10,000 more in your bank account.

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good dolphin wrote:
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The only psychic I would believe would have to show me at least one billion dollars in his or her bank account.


There are people being paid for their viewing ability and not just as some storefront gypsy. As I said, the military has used parapsychology as an informational gathering tool and it did prove to have a level of reliability better than what you would expect from just guessing. However, that level was not anywhere near 100%. I think their conclusion was that it had useful application but was only used in conjunction with other intelligence gathering.


Then he is really bad at his job.

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I watched the Starved Rock Murders doc and I thought it was fascinating. But, I knew who all those people were.

My brother and I were trying to determine how it got on HBO.

It was interesting to us because we lived there. But, overall, I didn't find it that interesting as a story.

Do you know the nutty psychic they had in episode 3?

We go to Starved Rock from time to time so I suppose that's why it was interesting to us.
You think they had gotten the right guy?


I don't know. Probably.

That's the thing. They didn't really present enough evidence to really convince you he didn't do it.

I always heard about it growing up but never knew much about the details.

So, if I had to guess, I think he probably did it.


I watched the documentary after reading your guys discussions. A lot of crazy turns and such. It is hard for me to believe that he did it by himself. He was caught in a ton of lies. I tend to think the Jansen guy who they showed at the end was onto more of the right story. Maybe Chester was in on the deal in some way, but I dont see how he could have done all that himself and got the bodies up onto that ledge. Will be interesting to see what the DNA evidence is able to show.


https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/ev ... oneration/

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CHICAGO (CBS) -- An attorney for convicted "Starved Rock Killer" Chester Weger presented evidence Monday that Weger hopes will lead to his exoneration.

Weger was accused and later convicted of killing three women in the state park in 1960. He has maintained his innocence all along, and was released from prison on parole in February 2020.

In court Monday, Weger's attorney presented evidence of a hair found on one of the victim's gloves. That hair was recently tested, and according to Weger's attorney, it does not match Weger.

But the hair does belong to a man.

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Brick wrote:
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The only psychic I would believe would have to show me at least one billion dollars in his or her bank account.


There are people being paid for their viewing ability and not just as some storefront gypsy. As I said, the military has used parapsychology as an informational gathering tool and it did prove to have a level of reliability better than what you would expect from just guessing. However, that level was not anywhere near 100%. I think their conclusion was that it had useful application but was only used in conjunction with other intelligence gathering.

You don't need to be 100% to make yourself incredibly rich knowing the future. That means either no one can do it or the people who can do it aren't selling their services in a 3 bedroom house on a busy street in the suburbs.

To put it another way, I hand you a phone and I say "You can tell good dolphin from 3 days ago 10 things about what has happened but only 7 of them will still come true" and with a small amount of effort you have at least $10,000 more in your bank account.


The military application didn't involve telling the future. They were doing something they called remote viewing, which involved only the present.

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You can't deny there have been several cases where detectives closed cases in homicide or missing persons they wouldn't have on their own.

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good dolphin wrote:
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good dolphin wrote:
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The only psychic I would believe would have to show me at least one billion dollars in his or her bank account.


There are people being paid for their viewing ability and not just as some storefront gypsy. As I said, the military has used parapsychology as an informational gathering tool and it did prove to have a level of reliability better than what you would expect from just guessing. However, that level was not anywhere near 100%. I think their conclusion was that it had useful application but was only used in conjunction with other intelligence gathering.

You don't need to be 100% to make yourself incredibly rich knowing the future. That means either no one can do it or the people who can do it aren't selling their services in a 3 bedroom house on a busy street in the suburbs.

To put it another way, I hand you a phone and I say "You can tell good dolphin from 3 days ago 10 things about what has happened but only 7 of them will still come true" and with a small amount of effort you have at least $10,000 more in your bank account.


The military application didn't involve telling the future. They were doing something they called remote viewing, which involved only the present.

I only care about psychics that can see the future. Just send a drone to see the present.

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It's all BS but find the stuff on how people pretend to have abilities in order to trick people and take their money fascinating.

They all use similar methods, usually ask a few general questions, or in the case of the faith healers, have plants sitting next to people that strike up a conversation with a mark and find out a few things which they then pass along to the person doing the scam.

Kinda goes something like this, they find out the persons dad just died, start out by supposedly picking the person out of the audience seemingly randomly, but the plant is usually sitting right next to them. The person is of course, shocked they have been picked at random, and has been prepped by the plant, usually they tell them stuff like, "I feel the power in this room that will speak to you and help you", or some BS like that. Then the scammer says, "I see a man standing next to you", to which the mark is stunned because how would the scammer know they just lost their dad, the person must have psychic powers, and then the scam is on and the person buys it because they have been prepped and are now mentally open to any suggestion.

It encompasses many traditional techniques, including the Delphi Technique to manipulate and build crown consensus, and other aspects of Emotional Intelligence or mental manipulation to convince people to adopt a consensus that is not actually factual.

You see this used in "Town Hall", or "Focus Groups", in politics all the time, if you recognize the techniques it's easily dismantled, but once you get the subjects to buy into what you are selling, you will get the result you want from the event.

Politicians use this all the time and enlist the like-minded members of the media to help sell the con.


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Brick wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Brick wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
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The only psychic I would believe would have to show me at least one billion dollars in his or her bank account.


There are people being paid for their viewing ability and not just as some storefront gypsy. As I said, the military has used parapsychology as an informational gathering tool and it did prove to have a level of reliability better than what you would expect from just guessing. However, that level was not anywhere near 100%. I think their conclusion was that it had useful application but was only used in conjunction with other intelligence gathering.

You don't need to be 100% to make yourself incredibly rich knowing the future. That means either no one can do it or the people who can do it aren't selling their services in a 3 bedroom house on a busy street in the suburbs.

To put it another way, I hand you a phone and I say "You can tell good dolphin from 3 days ago 10 things about what has happened but only 7 of them will still come true" and with a small amount of effort you have at least $10,000 more in your bank account.


The military application didn't involve telling the future. They were doing something they called remote viewing, which involved only the present.

I only care about psychics that can see the future. Just send a drone to see the present.


Drones are only to be used to bomb innocent civilians

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The fact that you need an appointment to see a psychic proves they’re full of shit.

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Project Stargate was/is useful.

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Project Stargate was/is useful.

The MacGyver show?

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Project Stargate was/is useful.

The MacGyver show?


No, the "closed" CIA project out of Maryland.

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