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Bernstein was mostly great before Penn State. IMO, he was by far the most knowledgeable and entertaining radio host in Chicago. I struggle to listen to 5 minutes of his shows now.

He has and always has been WAY too much of an arrogant prick for me.


I found his arrogance to be entertaining similar to North's bar talk. They were different guys, but both were must listen radio.

I listen to way much more of the early Score stuff, when Bernstein came along he seemed like a jock sniffer that was always trying to steal a story. I fucking have honestly really never listened to him after a year, maybe 2. And then when I started reading all of the Penn State bullshit on here, I was extremely thankful.

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Bernstein was mostly great before Penn State. IMO, he was by far the most knowledgeable and entertaining radio host in Chicago. I struggle to listen to 5 minutes of his shows now.

He has and always has been WAY too much of an arrogant prick for me.


I found his arrogance to be entertaining similar to North's bar talk. They were different guys, but both were must listen radio.

I listen to way much more of the early Score stuff, when Bernstein came along he seemed like a jock sniffer that was always trying to steal a story. I fucking have honestly really never listened to him after a year, maybe 2. And then when I started reading all of the Penn State bullshit on here, I was extremely thankful.


I missed the golden years. I started listening in the summer of 2003.

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Bernstein was also doing a bit for a long time when people - many of whom have extremely earnest opinions on sports - didn’t like that he’d mock them. Guys who’d hold for an hour to propose fake trades got all angsty because the mean man on the radio made fun of them.

I’d agree he’s arrogant but so are guys like Mac and North. Mac’s recent interview posted here showed he still thinks he knows how to host better than the presently employed, despite fronting a borderline unlistenable show just a few years ago.

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Bernstein was also doing a bit for a long time when people - many of whom have extremely earnest opinions on sports - didn’t like that he’d mock them. Guys who’d hold for an hour to propose fake trades got all angsty because the mean man on the radio made fun of them.

I’d agree he’s arrogant but so are guys like Mac and North. Mac’s recent interview posted here showed he still thinks he knows how to host better than the presently employed, despite fronting a borderline unlistenable show just a few years ago.


I felt like the overwhelming majority of the callers were in on the bit. They were college kids looking to be entertained.

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Nas wrote:
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Bernstein was mostly great before Penn State. IMO, he was by far the most knowledgeable and entertaining radio host in Chicago. I struggle to listen to 5 minutes of his shows now.

He has and always has been WAY too much of an arrogant prick for me.


I found his arrogance to be entertaining similar to North's bar talk. They were different guys, but both were must listen radio.

I listen to way much more of the early Score stuff, when Bernstein came along he seemed like a jock sniffer that was always trying to steal a story. I fucking have honestly really never listened to him after a year, maybe 2. And then when I started reading all of the Penn State bullshit on here, I was extremely thankful.


I missed the golden years. I started listening in the summer of 2003.

I preferred it myself and I was before you but you are a young buck.

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Stumbled across the station during the first week of its existence after reading about it in the paper, I was an odd kid that listened to the sportswriters on WGN and Chet's show, we could not afford cable, so sports play by play on AM radio was free entertainment.

Do remember the lack of commercials, it was odd to hear guys like Schaer try to fill time, kinda think that is one of the reasons they were so caller heavy, they had to fill time and needed content.

Instantly loved the Monsters when I could listen, but mostly it was the afternoon show with Mac and Hanley/Uncle Terry rotating that I could listen to after school.

The signal sucked back then, it barely came in in Rockford when they powered down in the afternoon, but my brother and I both still talk about how entertaining the Ditka show was as he would often melt down during the show and start going after callers and Uncle Terry, that of course will never happen again, but it launched the station.

Realized how big the station was getting a few years later in Platteville when there were hundreds of people crowding around the training camp broadcast, and the interaction between the hosts and the crowd, realized there was a much larger audience than the ratings were reporting. Also realized it was close to the end of the Mike North Morning Show years later when he ran back into the camper as soon as the station went to commercial in Bourbonnais, there were only a few people hanging around and North no longer felt the need to put in the effort to interact with fans.


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For me the best show in Score history was easily HFC. They always were the best at being both informative and entertaining. It was also the show which spawned the best segment in the station's history, WYC. Monsters were good too but for me HFC helped set the standard.

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Bernstein was mostly great before Penn State. IMO, he was by far the most knowledgeable and entertaining radio host in Chicago. I struggle to listen to 5 minutes of his shows now.

He has and always has been WAY too much of an arrogant prick for me.


I found his arrogance to be entertaining similar to North's bar talk. They were different guys, but both were must listen radio.

I listen to way much more of the early Score stuff, when Bernstein came along he seemed like a jock sniffer that was always trying to steal a story. I fucking have honestly really never listened to him after a year, maybe 2. And then when I started reading all of the Penn State bullshit on here, I was extremely thankful.


Day 1 Bernstein hater here, as well

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It's Shady Acres Day at the Score.

The station is playing a 30th anniversary show that features highlights from its early years to the present.

Right now, the Monsters are taking center stage.

It's OK.

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They played like 5 minutes of the Monsters and have moved on to foulups, bleeps and blunders from Bernstein, McKnight, Goff, Hampton, etc.

This is "the best" of the Score?

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they were bitching about a broken coffee machine earlier..so, the bits and pieces of the score's 30 years gives them time to run to starbucks.


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Now they're replaying the B&B reunion show from a few months back. Why not just play the best clips from the actual B&B show?

This is very poorly done.

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blunders from . . . Goff


This will prompt 50+ tweets about how he's not mad, he just thinks it's funny.

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Now they're replaying the B&B reunion show from a few months back. Why not just play the best clips from the actual B&B show?

This is very poorly done.


It'd probably have to be the shittier post-Sandusky B&B because I don't think Count Fagula or TB Diddler's ads would fly even with nobody listening, but still.


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Given his Baron von Raschke fetish and obsession with 90s sports talk, I'm guessing Claw lives in a wax museum.


More obsessed with the Bears, but that's not why you called.

Do have certain parts of the sandbox that amuse/interest me,and do respect Jim Raschke for entertaining me as a hapless grade schooler, which provided some much-needed cheap entertainment growing up in a single parent household, so you are not incorrect in your assumptions.
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Now they're replaying the B&B reunion show from a few months back. Why not just play the best clips from the actual B&B show?

This is very poorly done.


I think people misrepresented how Bernstein described HFC. After listening to that replay yesterday he called it middlebrow and that Mc Neil didn't have the capacity to understand Terry's humor, which resulted in a show that couldn't achieve its potential.

Fuck that guy. He is a sychophant to anyone he perceives to be above him and bully to anyone below him. His shows have always underachieved, never being the top rated at the station nor holding their lead in audiences. Mac has been a program builder, bringing two stations from vitual non existence to top in the market. Bernstein has never achieved that kind of success whether that is defined by popularity, compensation or industry prestige. I don't care that he raises money for camp kids. He's the type of guy who will weep for a stranger but condemn someone close. You never hear a sentence from him begin "you know what I did this weekend with my good friends?"

It's really nice not having to regularly listen to his work as he toils in irrelevance in a flagging career.

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Now they're replaying the B&B reunion show from a few months back. Why not just play the best clips from the actual B&B show?

This is very poorly done.


I think people misrepresented how Bernstein described HFC. After listening to that replay yesterday he called it middlebrow and that Mc Neil didn't have the capacity to understand Terry's humor, which resulted in a show that couldn't achieve its potential.

Fuck that guy. He is a sychophant to anyone he perceives to be above him and bully to anyone below him. His shows have always underachieved, never being the top rated at the station nor holding their lead in audiences. Mac has been a program builder, bringing two stations from vitual non existence to top in the market. Bernstein has never achieved that kind of success whether that is defined by popularity, compensation or industry prestige. I don't care that he raises money for camp kids. He's the type of guy who will weep for a stranger but condemn someone close. You never hear a sentence from him begin "you know what I did this weekend with my good friends?"

It's really nice not having to regularly listen to his work as he toils in irrelevance in a flagging career.


Couldn't agree more. Bernstein has always been overrated as a talk show host.

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Now they're replaying the B&B reunion show from a few months back. Why not just play the best clips from the actual B&B show?

This is very poorly done.


I think people misrepresented how Bernstein described HFC. After listening to that replay yesterday he called it middlebrow and that Mc Neil didn't have the capacity to understand Terry's humor, which resulted in a show that couldn't achieve its potential.

Fuck that guy. He is a sychophant to anyone he perceives to be above him and bully to anyone below him. His shows have always underachieved, never being the top rated at the station nor holding their lead in audiences. Mac has been a program builder, bringing two stations from vitual non existence to top in the market. Bernstein has never achieved that kind of success whether that is defined by popularity, compensation or industry prestige. I don't care that he raises money for camp kids. He's the type of guy who will weep for a stranger but condemn someone close. You never hear a sentence from him begin "you know what I did this weekend with my good friends?"

It's really nice not having to regularly listen to his work as he toils in irrelevance in a flagging career.


He basically said that Mac wasn't smart enough to grasp Terry's presumably more sophisticated sense of humor and therefore missed a lot of opportunities to elevate the HFC. That, he claimed, is the reason why he knew his partnership with Boers would succeed--because he possesses the intellectual capacity that Mac lacks.

Bernstein's contempt for Mac was pretty obvious at that point in the discussion, though no one at the mic--Boers, Holmes, Leila, and possibly drinky--chose to address it.

There was a similar dynamic present after Les' death. Bernstein often had a hard time disguising his lack of respect and affection for the Grobber.

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Tall Midget wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
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Now they're replaying the B&B reunion show from a few months back. Why not just play the best clips from the actual B&B show?

This is very poorly done.


I think people misrepresented how Bernstein described HFC. After listening to that replay yesterday he called it middlebrow and that Mc Neil didn't have the capacity to understand Terry's humor, which resulted in a show that couldn't achieve its potential.

Fuck that guy. He is a sychophant to anyone he perceives to be above him and bully to anyone below him. His shows have always underachieved, never being the top rated at the station nor holding their lead in audiences. Mac has been a program builder, bringing two stations from vitual non existence to top in the market. Bernstein has never achieved that kind of success whether that is defined by popularity, compensation or industry prestige. I don't care that he raises money for camp kids. He's the type of guy who will weep for a stranger but condemn someone close. You never hear a sentence from him begin "you know what I did this weekend with my good friends?"

It's really nice not having to regularly listen to his work as he toils in irrelevance in a flagging career.


He basically said that Mac wasn't smart enough to grasp Terry's presumably more sophisticated sense of humor and therefore missed a lot of opportunities to elevate the HFC. That, he claimed, is the reason why he knew his partnership with Boers would succeed--because he possesses the intellectual capacity that Mac lacks.

Yup

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Given his Baron von Raschke fetish and obsession with 90s sports talk, I'm guessing Claw lives in a wax museum.


More obsessed with the Bears, but that's not why you called.

Do have certain parts of the sandbox that amuse/interest me,and do respect Jim Raschke for entertaining me as a hapless grade schooler, which provided some much-needed cheap entertainment growing up in a single parent household, so you are not incorrect in your assumptions.
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Playing a random Bears Monday clip from the HFC days would give a good example of the vast difference between sports talk radio in the glory days and what they are trotting out today.

A fast paced show with banter between hosts, reporters, producers, and callers that quickly moved on and at least aired some contrarian takes on players/coaches/ownership.

Then you drag out the slow drudgery they do today, limited interactions between only like minded people, everyone sounds the same, slow paced crud that devolves into tangential efforts to prove the host is down with the days SJW agenda.

Seems there is a tremendous amount of jealousy directed toward Mac who didn't go to the right school or read the right books, he is seen as an interloper that took a job from guys that see themselves as the smartest guy in any room they enter like Bernstein.


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Tall Midget wrote:
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Now they're replaying the B&B reunion show from a few months back. Why not just play the best clips from the actual B&B show?

This is very poorly done.


I think people misrepresented how Bernstein described HFC. After listening to that replay yesterday he called it middlebrow and that Mc Neil didn't have the capacity to understand Terry's humor, which resulted in a show that couldn't achieve its potential.

Fuck that guy. He is a sychophant to anyone he perceives to be above him and bully to anyone below him. His shows have always underachieved, never being the top rated at the station nor holding their lead in audiences. Mac has been a program builder, bringing two stations from vitual non existence to top in the market. Bernstein has never achieved that kind of success whether that is defined by popularity, compensation or industry prestige. I don't care that he raises money for camp kids. He's the type of guy who will weep for a stranger but condemn someone close. You never hear a sentence from him begin "you know what I did this weekend with my good friends?"

It's really nice not having to regularly listen to his work as he toils in irrelevance in a flagging career.


He basically said that Mac wasn't smart enough to grasp Terry's presumably more sophisticated sense of humor and therefore missed a lot of opportunities to elevate the HFC. That, he claimed, is the reason why he knew his partnership with Boers would succeed--because he possesses the intellectual capacity that Mac lacks.

Bernstein's contempt for Mac was pretty obvious at that point in the discussion, though no one at the mic--Boers, Holmes, Leila, and possibly drinky--chose to address it.

There was a similar dynamic present after Les' death. Bernstein often had a hard time disguising his lack of respect and affection for the Grobber.


Meanwhile, this was the era of sophisticated humor like Count Fagula and TB Diddlers. Those weren't Mac jokes.

The truth is, and I think Terry would agree, that Mac showed Terry the value and personal joy of being more populist.

Many have said this here but Dan is what an average person thinks smart is. Dan knows this as you can see how purposeful he is to be thought of as smart, rather than just being smart. He goes to family parties and is surrounded by professionals with advanced degrees who don't admire his intellect the way Schmutzie does.

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Seems there is a bit of confusion here, but while intelligence can be quantified to a certain degree, it has very little correlation with the ability to put on an entertaining sports talk radio show, especially when you consider the audience you are attempting to reach.

The reason WSCR worked in the beginning was that it took guys from different walks of life and had them to sports talk radio with the self-appointed smartest guys, mostly writers, filling small segments of time and then giving the regular guys like North and Mac give them the actual real world take which was often drastically different from the agreed upon approved sports thought of the day.

Today everyone must be in lock step, so you get stupidity like the entire station performing fellatio on Matt Nagy even though it was evident that he was not very good at his job. That would never have happened in the early days of the station, but despite the station claiming to be diverse, they have actually crushed any diversity in thought, rendering the station utterly useless at this point in its existence.


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Today everyone must be in lock step, so you get stupidity like the entire station performing fellatio on Matt Nagy even though it was evident that he was not very good at his job. That would never have happened in the early days of the station, but despite the station claiming to be diverse, they have actually crushed any diversity in thought, rendering the station utterly useless at this point in its existence.

When Boers & Bernstein was really good around 2006-2008, the rest of the schedule was North, Mully and Hanley, Murph, and Buffone. It worked because they didn't sound like everyone else. Now, not only is everyone on the station ripping off Bernstein, the whole "respectable" sports media sounds the same, too. Moral clarity and robot umpires, everywhere you go.

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Mac totally understood Terry’s humor on HFC. My favorite part of the show was Mac laughing uncontrollably on air, which caused me to laugh. Terry was witty, funny, and engaged. Contrast that with B&B where Terry clearly was not watching games, and his legendary humor was overridden by unfun topics like concussions and Penn State.

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Now they're replaying the B&B reunion show from a few months back. Why not just play the best clips from the actual B&B show?

This is very poorly done.


I have not listened to the Score in months mainly due to the enjoyment of experiencing Sirius XM. But after a week long road trip I decided to turn on the Score yesterday as I was driving thru Indiana. Bears season opener a week away, Sox pennant chase, interesting weekend of college football, so much to talk about. Instead I hear the tail end of Russ Mitera's greatest moments on the Score followed by a replay of the Score 30th anniversary party that took place two months ago. WTF.


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Bernstein comforts himself about his ratings being substandard for a FOTS with the thought that he is inaccessible to the common man because of his intelligence. In my experience, the brighter the person, the more they dislike him. He's king of the overeducated but underaccomplished searching for reassurance that they, too, are smart

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