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Go to 5:45 to start the Fields critique from July. Leila really pushes back on people saying that Fields doesn't have enough feel for the game. The irony is that the Bears passing game is worse this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d22jOsdwXNw

whoever the guys are that little Danny is quoting during that were dead nuts 100% spot on in their evaluation of him. Of course Liela pushed back against any criticism of him, that was the narrative back then and is in large part still . Can’t imagine why. Probably for the same reason Jason Heyward wasnt killing grandmas but Anthony Rizzo was and despite one of the worst performances a big money free agent has ever signed in Chicago he largely got a pass from the media. I guess I could be imagining that though .

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Jesus, just put Siemien for a bit..

There is absolutely no reason to put him in unless Fields gets hurt.

You play the kid all year. The worst that happens is you have an awful year and get a top 3-5 pick.


And there you have it.

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:lol: they think Fields should be ranked higher than Trevor Lawrence and Jared Goff....both those QB's have put up huge numbers this year.
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:lol: they think Fields should be ranked higher than Trevor Lawrence and Jared Goff....both those QB's have put up huge numbers this year.


The clip in 2 months old. Trevor Lawrence isn't good. In fact, he's fortunate the quarterbacks drafted after him have sucked. Mac Jones is the best quarterback in that class. He's a replacement level starter.

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Augie wrote:
Go to 5:45 to start the Fields critique from July. Leila really pushes back on people saying that Fields doesn't have enough feel for the game. The irony is that the Bears passing game is worse this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d22jOsdwXNw

whoever the guys are that little Danny is quoting during that were dead nuts 100% spot on in their evaluation of him. Of course Liela pushed back against any criticism of him, that was the narrative back then and is in large part still . Can’t imagine why. Probably for the same reason Jason Heyward wasnt killing grandmas but Anthony Rizzo was and despite one of the worst performances a big money free agent has ever signed in Chicago he largely got a pass from the media. I guess I could be imagining that though .



you sure expend a lot of mental energy thinking about black guys
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:lol: they think Fields should be ranked higher than Trevor Lawrence and Jared Goff....both those QB's have put up huge numbers this year.


The clip in 2 months old. Trevor Lawrence isn't good. In fact, he's fortunate the quarterbacks drafted after him have sucked. Mac Jones is the best quarterback in that class. He's a replacement level starter.


Nobody would take mac jones over T.L.

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:lol: they think Fields should be ranked higher than Trevor Lawrence and Jared Goff....both those QB's have put up huge numbers this year.


The clip in 2 months old. Trevor Lawrence isn't good. In fact, he's fortunate the quarterbacks drafted after him have sucked. Mac Jones is the best quarterback in that class. He's a replacement level starter.


Nobody would take mac jones over T.L.


The same people who had him as a can't miss superstar?

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:lol: they think Fields should be ranked higher than Trevor Lawrence and Jared Goff....both those QB's have put up huge numbers this year.


The clip in 2 months old. Trevor Lawrence isn't good. In fact, he's fortunate the quarterbacks drafted after him have sucked. Mac Jones is the best quarterback in that class. He's a replacement level starter.


Nobody would take mac jones over T.L.


The same people who had him as a can't miss superstar?


Trevor has been pretty good this year
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:lol: they think Fields should be ranked higher than Trevor Lawrence and Jared Goff....both those QB's have put up huge numbers this year.


The clip in 2 months old. Trevor Lawrence isn't good. In fact, he's fortunate the quarterbacks drafted after him have sucked. Mac Jones is the best quarterback in that class. He's a replacement level starter.


Nobody would take mac jones over T.L.


The same people who had him as a can't miss superstar?



He's having a good year, he's looking like a franchise QB progressing from year 1 to 2.

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He turned the ball over 5 times yesterday. Even Justin Fields has avoided that level of incompetence.

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Augie wrote:
Go to 5:45 to start the Fields critique from July. Leila really pushes back on people saying that Fields doesn't have enough feel for the game. The irony is that the Bears passing game is worse this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d22jOsdwXNw

whoever the guys are that little Danny is quoting during that were dead nuts 100% spot on in their evaluation of him. Of course Liela pushed back against any criticism of him, that was the narrative back then and is in large part still . Can’t imagine why. Probably for the same reason Jason Heyward wasnt killing grandmas but Anthony Rizzo was and despite one of the worst performances a big money free agent has ever signed in Chicago he largely got a pass from the media. I guess I could be imagining that though .



you sure expend a lot of mental energy thinking about black guys


White supremacy is the greatest threat to our nation . I have a lot to atone for.

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He turned the ball over 5 times yesterday. Even Justin Fields has avoided that level of incompetence.


That can be corrected. TL has 8 TD's to 2 Int's on the year, it looks like he understands the concept of a modern NFL passing game...we all would kill for Fields to have those numbers.
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He turned the ball over 5 times yesterday. Even Justin Fields has avoided that level of incompetence.


That can be corrected. TL has 8 TD's to 2 Int's on the year, it looks like he understands the concept of a modern NFL passing game...we all would kill for Fields to have those numbers.


He had 2 good games. He sucked more than Fields in the other 2. Three touchdowns and 6 turnovers isn't good

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2 good games > zero good games

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He turned the ball over 5 times yesterday. Even Justin Fields has avoided that level of incompetence.

So if you were offered Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields to start a franchise, you'd take Fields? Or Mac Jones?
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Zappe looked like he had potential yesterday.

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He turned the ball over 5 times yesterday. Even Justin Fields has avoided that level of incompetence.


That can be corrected. TL has 8 TD's to 2 Int's on the year, it looks like he understands the concept of a modern NFL passing game...we all would kill for Fields to have those numbers.


He had 2 good games. He sucked more than Fields in the other 2. Three touchdowns and 6 turnovers isn't good

the old "if you take away all the good stuff he is terrible" argument.
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2 good games > zero good games


Yeah, for 2 players you were sure would be great. Neither will be. One may be out of the league by 2025.

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Zappe looked like he had potential yesterday.


Great coaching, great organization

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He turned the ball over 5 times yesterday. Even Justin Fields has avoided that level of incompetence.


That can be corrected. TL has 8 TD's to 2 Int's on the year, it looks like he understands the concept of a modern NFL passing game...we all would kill for Fields to have those numbers.


He had 2 good games. He sucked more than Fields in the other 2. Three touchdowns and 6 turnovers isn't good

the old "if you take away all the good stuff he is terrible" argument.


No, it's a basic counter to "he's been great" posts. My post is factually accurate.

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Zappe looked like he had potential yesterday.

I can't remember what small-time university Zappe came from but they mentioned his stats from last year and my son and I looked at each other like "those numbers cant be real, can they?"
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2 good games > zero good games


Yeah, for 2 players you were sure would be great. Neither will be. One may be out of the league by 2025.



I never thought fields would be great, I still believe mac jones sucks.. I thought TL had the best chance to be great..still do. Now he has weapons, I like the Rbs and WRs.. If he doesn't continue to improve then I'll agree I was wrong..we should know by next year..but I see improvement already.

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Nas wrote:
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He turned the ball over 5 times yesterday. Even Justin Fields has avoided that level of incompetence.


That can be corrected. TL has 8 TD's to 2 Int's on the year, it looks like he understands the concept of a modern NFL passing game...we all would kill for Fields to have those numbers.


He had 2 good games. He sucked more than Fields in the other 2. Three touchdowns and 6 turnovers isn't good

the old "if you take away all the good stuff he is terrible" argument.


No, it's a basic counter to "he's been great" posts. My post is factually accurate.

so would you take Mac Jones or Justin Fields over him if you had to re-draft right now?
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Zappe looked like he had potential yesterday.

I can't remember what small-time university Zappe came from but they mentioned his stats from last year and my son and I looked at each other like "those numbers cant be real, can they?"


Western Kentucky?

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He turned the ball over 5 times yesterday. Even Justin Fields has avoided that level of incompetence.

So if you were offered Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields to start a franchise, you'd take Fields? Or Mac Jones?


I wouldn't allow Fields to enter my building. Mac Jones has been the best quarterback in that class. I'm not sure if that'll be true forever. I'm fairly confident Lawrence will never be a superstar.

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
He turned the ball over 5 times yesterday. Even Justin Fields has avoided that level of incompetence.


That can be corrected. TL has 8 TD's to 2 Int's on the year, it looks like he understands the concept of a modern NFL passing game...we all would kill for Fields to have those numbers.


He had 2 good games. He sucked more than Fields in the other 2. Three touchdowns and 6 turnovers isn't good

the old "if you take away all the good stuff he is terrible" argument.


No, it's a basic counter to "he's been great" posts. My post is factually accurate.

so would you take Mac Jones or Justin Fields over him if you had to re-draft right now?


If I had to pick a quarterback to win a game or I would die, I would take Mac Jones today. I would never select Fields.

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So you would take Mac Jones over Trevor Lawrence to lead your team? based on what you know now, that's your guy? Its fine if it is, none of us know for sure, that's just a surprising take.
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He turned the ball over 5 times yesterday. Even Justin Fields has avoided that level of incompetence.
So if you were offered Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields to start a franchise, you'd take Fields? Or Mac Jones?


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Zappe looked like he had potential yesterday.

I can't remember what small-time university Zappe came from but they mentioned his stats from last year and my son and I looked at each other like "those numbers cant be real, can they?"


Western Kentucky?

yeah that may have been it, but the numbers were so ridiculous it was hard to believe. I think the announcers said every snap he took there was shotgun.
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Zappe looked like he had potential yesterday.

I can't remember what small-time university Zappe came from but they mentioned his stats from last year and my son and I looked at each other like "those numbers cant be real, can they?"


Western Kentucky?


Yes, after playing NAIA for a few years, at Houston Baptist

https://wkusports.com/sports/football/r ... zappe/3897

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