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Brick

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:46 am

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good dolphin wrote:

I think Explorers Day would be a good substitute, if all this really sticks in people's craw. Then you are not honoring an individual, but a selfless act that helped humanity and include everyone from Lucy to Neil Armstrong

and I'd still keep a First People's Day. What's it to me (other than if I have to give a day off)? I like cultural celebrations.

Explorers and Immigrants Day. Who gets offended? No one or everyone?

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Rod

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:02 am

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Brick wrote:

The Missing Link wrote:

Brick wrote:

The point is if we are going to remove Columbus Day because he didn't in fact "discover" America and that is fine, then why would we change it to a group who also didn't "discover" America?

Maybe we change it to Paleolithic Hunter-Gatherers Day?

Nice try Brick. The United States had a holiday honoring a guy for "discovering" America when he actually did not. Not only did he not "discover" America but he never even set foot inside of the land which later became the United States. However it still makes much more sense to MANY to honor him as opposed to those that actually resided here. To whom does this sort of logic actually make sense I wonder?

I have no issue with getting rid of Columbus Day. I was always a Mayflower guy anyways.

What doesn't make sense is why get rid of Columbus Day because he didn't discover America but then replace it with another group that also didn't discover America? Figure out who actually did discover America and put that person or group on the federal holiday list.

Let's just great rid of the paid holiday for government workers and call it a day.

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Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:15 am

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Brick wrote:

The Missing Link wrote:

Brick wrote:

Let's just great rid of the paid holiday for government workers and call it a day.

You use "government workers" as a catchall for something sinister. Most of us would be toothless, with a life expectancy of about 50 years without government workers. You should probably be specific when expressing your disgust with the corruption and inefficiency of some government agencies.

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The Missing Link

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:19 am

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Brick wrote:

What doesn't make sense is why get rid of Columbus Day because he didn't discover America but then replace it with another group that also didn't discover America? Figure out who actually did discover America and put that person or group on the federal holiday list.

This question was answered already Brick. Not only did Columbus not "discover" America. He also never set foot in America either. With this being the case there is no reason to ever honor him as the person that "discovered" America. The indigenous people actually did reside here at least.

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RFDC

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:20 am

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The Missing Link wrote:

Brick wrote:

You did not really address his point.

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The Missing Link

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:21 am

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RFDC wrote:

The Missing Link wrote:

Brick wrote:

You did not really address his point.

I actually did. Indigenous people RESIDED in North AMERICA at least. Columbus never set foot in N. America. Why should he ever have a holiday named after him (In N. America)with this being the case?

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RFDC

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:22 am

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The Missing Link wrote:

RFDC wrote:

The Missing Link wrote:

Brick wrote:

You did not really address his point.

I actually did. Indigenous people RESIDED in North AMERICA at least. Columbus never set foot in N. America. Why should he ever have a holiday named after him with this being the case?

Resided and discovered are not the same thing.

They did not discover America any more than Columbus.

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The Missing Link

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:23 am

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RFDC wrote:

The Missing Link wrote:

RFDC wrote:

The Missing Link wrote:

Brick wrote:

You did not really address his point.

I actually did. Indigenous people RESIDED in North AMERICA at least. Columbus never set foot in N. America. Why should he ever have a holiday named after him with this being the case?

Resided and discovered are not the same thing.

They did not discover America any more than Columbus.

They inhabited the continent. Columbus did not. They also were here a centuries to the "arrival" of Columbus. With this being the case, why was a holiday named in honor of Columbus as opposed to them I wonder?

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RFDC

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:26 am

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As far as I am concerned they can ditch the whole holiday all together.

But switching the name to a group that did not discover it either is just silly.

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The Missing Link

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:27 am

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RFDC wrote:

As far as I am concerned they can ditch the whole holiday all together.

But switching the name to a group that did not discover it either is just silly.

That's why the holiday is named in honor of "INDIGENOUS PEOPLE" as opposed to Native Americans.

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Nas

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:30 am

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These types of fights are meaningless to me. Far bigger fish to fry.

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Rod

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:31 am

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Nas wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Brick wrote:

The Missing Link wrote:

Brick wrote:

Let's just great rid of the paid holiday for government workers and call it a day.

How do government workers get paid? Is it magic?

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badrogue17

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:32 am

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I could barely stomach having the day off every year when it was named after Columbus.

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Nas

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:32 am

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Nas wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Brick wrote:

The Missing Link wrote:

Brick wrote:

Let's just great rid of the paid holiday for government workers and call it a day.

How do government workers get paid? Is it magic?

That has nothing to do with my statement.

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Caller Bob

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:32 am

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In this home we say

Merry Christmas
God Bless America
Happy Columbus Day
We Salure our Flag
Thank God for our Troups

If this offends you please leave.

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The Missing Link

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:33 am

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Nas wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Brick wrote:

The Missing Link wrote:

Brick wrote:

Let's just great rid of the paid holiday for government workers and call it a day.

How do government workers get paid? Is it magic?

Is this the part of the show where Jorr fallaciously believes that he is somehow a "Capitalist Businessman" yet again?

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Nas

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:33 am

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Caller Bob wrote:

In this home we say

Merry Christmas
God Bless America
Happy Columbus Day
We Salure our Flag
Thank God for our Troups

If this offends you please leave.

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Nardi

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:35 am

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Nas wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

If you have something you love, you better be prepared to fight to keep it.

Everything you love isn't worth that energy. That should be reserved for the things you love most.

Damn right. Choosing your battle is 90% half the battle.

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Brick

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:37 am

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The Missing Link wrote:

That's a great answer on why Columbus is to lose the holiday. It doesn't explain at all why you would change it to Indigineous People though over any other inhabitants of the future country. Maybe we should name it Mayflower Day though maybe put it in May to avoid confusion and also the weather is better.

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The Missing Link

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:39 am

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badrogue17 wrote:

I could barely stomach having the day off every year when it was named after Columbus.

Its sad the level of comfortability that MANY of the self professed educational enthusiasts have with the distorted presentation of history that is provided around here. I'm actually flabbergasted by the way. And quite disappointed too.

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The Missing Link

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:42 am

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Brick wrote:

The Missing Link wrote:

Brick has no idea (obviously) what the word "INDIGENOUS" actually means and I'm shocked that he doesn't by the way. Brick why would you be opposed to naming it (other than your blatantly obvious Eurocentric "leanings") after the group that originally inhabited the land?

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Brick

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:46 am

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The Missing Link wrote:

Brick wrote:

The Missing Link wrote:

Well, I don't know who originally inhabited the land but I would be fine with Clovis Day or Paleolithic Hunter-Gatherers Day even though they are the same people who became Russians.

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Brick

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:57 am

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To give ltg a better answer, "Explorers and Immigrants Day" makes far more sense. We don't even know who the true indigenous people are of the United States besides knowing they were from the same people that brought us what would one day be Russia.

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Rod

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:57 am

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Nas wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

How do government workers get paid? Is it magic?

That has nothing to do with my statement.

Of course it does. Government workers don't produce anything. They're like an HR Department for the country. Mostly they just make things more difficult than they need to be.

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The Missing Link

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 10:06 am

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Brick wrote:

The Missing Link wrote:

Brick wrote:

The Missing Link wrote:

Well, I don't know who originally inhabited the land but I would be fine with Clovis Day or Paleolithic Hunter-Gatherers Day even though they are the same people who became Russians.

You don't have to know who the "original inhabitants" were in order to celebrate that there were original inhabitants of this "great land". Indigenous Day is simply a celebration of the original people of this country. Columbus was not one of "those people" thus there is no need for him to be "celebrated" as such.

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Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.

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Again, your comprehension needs work.

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pittmike

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 10:06 am

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Brick wrote:

While in central Mexico the Mayan guides felt they were more derived from people across the Bearing connector that were Asian or at least Siberian than truly Russian. But why pic nits.

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The Missing Link

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 10:07 am

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Brick wrote:

"WE" know that they were not Christopher Columbus.

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Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.

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Brick

Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 10:12 am

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The Missing Link wrote:

You aren't doing a good job of saying who that actually is though. Are you referring to the people who came from Russia thousands of years ago? When is the dividing line? Is it anyone who was here in 1492?

That's the whole flaw in the entire premise. There have been people here for 15,000 to 20,000 years. Who are we celebrating on this date?

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Post subject: Re: Indigenous Peoples Day

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 10:12 am

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Nas wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

How do government workers get paid? Is it magic?

That has nothing to do with my statement.

Of course it does. Government workers don't produce anything. They're like an HR Department for the country. Mostly they just make things more difficult than they need to be.

You have benefitted from Federal Government more than MOST of its employees :lol: