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And cheap. They went all out with an actual box, a fake Footlocker receipt, and StockX stuff on the Yeezys. The other pair of cheap high quality shoes I bought from there were just stuffed into a plastic bag with no box.

Some comedians...maybe. Overall...woke era is nowhere close to dead.

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Seems like disgust with wokeism has bolstered Republican numbers in some areas but also helped define this new third class of voters/potential voters: the Joe Rogan types who are neither right or left necessarily but definitely not pro woke either. It'll be interesting to see how this class of folks develops the closer we get to presidential election. I wonder what Tall Midget has to say here since I think he looks at these trends and classes closely.

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I have to push back on "Joe Rogan types". It's just liberals who are all in on the bill of rights. Like pretty much how they always have been until this last decade or so.

“Joe Rogan Type” sounds like something someone would come up with to associate a fan of the show with Alex Jones. I’ve been a fan of JRE for about 8 years. I’ve never once listened to Alex Jones unless he was being parodied on Stern.

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Does a long form interview type of thing, you can tell right away if the guest is a crackpot or not, but he let's them talk.

If you deal with people that are crackpots on a daily basis you will find that they can provide somewhat cogent thoughts on some things, but will show they are idiots if you keep asking simply questions nicely and asking for clarification.

The issue is that most people, especially younger people, are terrified on anyone with different ideas because they have no ability to partake in conversations with people from differing walks of life, this is especially true of SJW types who feel they are changing the world by putting a BLM log on their FB pages, but never actually talk to anyone other than a very small group of likeminded chums.

Those of us that are a bit more comfortable with direct and difficult interactions enjoy listening to someone cleverly expose or question someones takes on an issue without yelling or having to edit what they said, if you watch actual long form speeches on C-Span you quickly learn that the news channel snippets give nowhere near an adequate presentation of what the person said, or the level of intellect the person possesses.

The problem with Rogan is that he gives people a huge platform to talk with very little questioning of those ideas and then when people afterwards "fact check" it then people get mad at the fact checkers for trying to suppress the information. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/08/arts/music/fact-check-joe-rogan-robert-malone.html

If it's on the Joe Rogan podcast it becomes a "fact". That's not necessarily Rogan's fault that people misuse what his show is but it is a lot like how the Daily Show was the "real news" and he developed a cult-like following.

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That was never a “problem” until COVID. There is nothing in the Malone interview that changed my mind about anything, made me regret taking the vaccine, or turned me into some conspiracy theorist. The NYT article really wants to attack and eviscerate them but they have to keep saying “This is misleading” which doesn’t mean shit.

Meanwhile, the CDC which *should* be held to a higher standard than a podcast, had to come out and finally admit how bad a job they did with their handling of the crisis.

It’s not Rogan’s or the guests’ job to “inform”. I mentioned the Daily Show comparison a while back when Stewart defended Rogan on the basis of “engaging” rather than “canceling”. But when people proudly admitted years ago that they “got their news from The Daily Show”, I don’t recall an onslaught of “misinformation” charges coming from anywhere but…surprise, Fox News.

Rogan isn’t a political figure but he’s taken seriously as one because people have to keep coming up with relevant Boogeymen. He doesn’t give a shit and that’s why I still listen…he also still brings in great guests.

What is the point of his podcast and covering serious topics like this if not to inform? Are you basically saying "It's not his fault that people listen to things said on his podcast and think it is true?"

I don't think it helps the case to argue that someone that chooses to cover serious topics even though it's not his job to inform about them and he also doesn't care about it if it does happen and people hear things on it that aren't correct and treat it as the truth.

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yeah, brick, i'm actually saying it's up to people to make up their own minds. joe rogan's podcast has always been the same. it's him having a guest on to talk about random things, sometimes it gets deep, sometimes it's dumb, sometimes it's jokey, and sometimes they talk about political stuff. it's no different than having a conversation with a person for 3 hours. things go in different directions.

the shrill response to his show now reminds me of late 80's-mid 90's howard reactions. oh, howard's popular so now all of his opinions and guests hold weight. so the religious right swooped in, got the FCC on their side, to try and get rid of him on the air. he pissed a lot of people off, but he just kept doing his show. that's basically what i see rogan doing now. he's just not some crusader like stern was, he's way more laid back.

his best guests are the ones that do most of the talking. there are times where rogan inserts himself too much. he's not that bright. he will admit that.

again, this is the Daily Show Disease. rogan is also a comedian, like stewart was. what's his responsibility? i think if people want to be sheep, they're going to be sheep. but rogan isn't going on political talk shows to champion himself the way stewart would. maybe that's his luxury, but mostly i think rogan just would rather have another guest on than do something like that.

I would say that Rogan has a lost of responsibility for a show called "The Joe Rogan Experience".

I know that media standards have changed greatly but I don't think you can give someone like Rogan or Stewart a pass for "being a comedian" when you wouldn't give the same pass to someone on Fox News or CNN just because they don't really want to have responsibility for the shows they've created.

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Rogan should be approached like Art Bell. He is facilitating presentation of a viewpoint that may be on the fringe. He is providing the soap box, indulging the guest's viewpoint with the ethic that the information deserves a moment in the light. The listener is tasked with judging the credibility and researching the truth of the information presented.

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If that was really how it worked then the Joe Rogan fans wouldn't get so triggered by people saying "Lots of things are said on his podcast that are wrong".

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Rogan isn’t a news source. I can’t help it that we live in such a remedial society that takes everything literally and everything means something.

The difference between Rogan and Stewart is just what I said: Stewart went on news shows to defend his product. Rogan basically ignores it or casually mentions it on his show.

What gets me is that there is so much ire for entertainers yet actual news sources get away with spreading lies, deceit, and fearmongering without any accountability on themselves.

I don’t go for Rogan for news. Anyone who does is on par with a Reddit drone who still believes staged TikTok videos are real life.

Rick really wants Joe Rogan censored in some way doesnt he ?

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

I just wish he took his role more seriously.

Do you agree that we shouldn't really trust what is on his show is true?

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That seems like the last thing a podcaster should do.

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It's downright hilarious that in a time when the mainstream media perpetrated the hoax that the President of the United States was a Russian agent, repeatedly lied about COVID and the vaccines and treatments related thereto, and insisted that many police officers died on January 6 people single out Joe Rogan for spreading "misinformation."

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

The engaging funny guy at the end of the bar who talks about everything under the sun, needs to show some media responsibility, like CNN. He talks about the animal kingdom and prey and predators in jungles like 3x as much as COVID. Close to 50% of the time there's a comedian or multiple comedians in the other chair. He just had ANTI-conspiracist Michael Shermer on yesterday. Even Purdue Rick doesn't think Oswald was the lone gunman, but this guy does. I guess he's showing some media responsibility every now and then.

I wish those places took their role more seriously.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

That's true.

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This seems to be a good argument to not trust anything heard on the Joe Rogan podcast. I will accept that answer. Thanks Nardi!

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It's a good argument to be curious about all aspects of life. Mock it. It's fine. Just makes you look like a goof.

What am I mocking? You compared him to the interesting drunk at the bar just talking about random stuff but I'm the one mocking him?

Ultimately, you and me are both saying the the information learned on the show should be considered highly questionable. Would you take as fact what the guy at the end of bar talking about prey and predators said about the positive aspects of single payer healthcare?

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