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Nas

Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 11:41 am

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Tall Midget wrote:

Nas wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

His coach was so good he had to get him less talent.

Let the kids play and use the cap savings next year.

Is there a better class of free agents next year than there was this year?

It's solid defensively. Schultz and Meyers are probably the best TE and WR on the market. Both may get tagged or resign. Orlando Brown could be available. They'll probably have to trade for established talent or sign guys to prove it deals.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all//

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 11:48 am

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In addition to Orlando Brown, Elgton Jenkins is also a FA, don't know if Green Bay can afford him with Karen's salary.

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:04 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

In addition to Orlando Brown, Elgton Jenkins is also a FA, don't know if Green Bay can afford him with Karen's salary.

I don't think they will let Jenkins go anywhere.

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:14 pm

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Hawg Ass wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

In addition to Orlando Brown, Elgton Jenkins is also a FA, don't know if Green Bay can afford him with Karen's salary.

I don't think they will let Jenkins go anywhere.

The Packers are sitting on a little over 3 million in cap space for next year so best of luck with that

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/green-bay-packers

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:25 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

In addition to Orlando Brown, Elgton Jenkins is also a FA, don't know if Green Bay can afford him with Karen's salary.

I don't think they will let Jenkins go anywhere.

The Packers are sitting on a little over 3 million in cap space for next year so best of luck with that

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/green-bay-packers

There is always room, we learned this last year.

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:26 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

In addition to Orlando Brown, Elgton Jenkins is also a FA, don't know if Green Bay can afford him with Karen's salary.

I don't think they will let Jenkins go anywhere.

The Packers are sitting on a little over 3 million in cap space for next year so best of luck with that

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/green-bay-packers

Here we go again with the cap. There will inevitably be some departures (Amos and/or Preston Smith are likely gone) but Jenkins will be back. Your guy Rashan Gary will be up for an extension as well.

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:27 pm

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Packers offensive linemen get hurt after getting paid. I would avoid their Packer stink and injuries.

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:30 pm

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

In addition to Orlando Brown, Elgton Jenkins is also a FA, don't know if Green Bay can afford him with Karen's salary.

I don't think they will let Jenkins go anywhere.

The Packers are sitting on a little over 3 million in cap space for next year so best of luck with that

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/green-bay-packers

Here we go again with the cap. There will inevitably be some departures (Amos and/or Preston Smith are likely gone) but Jenkins will be back. Your guy Rashan Gary will be up for an extension as well.

Amos nets you 5 million in cap savings. It's cute how you guys pretend the cap isn't real, like last year, and then poof! Devante Adams was gone.

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:36 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

In addition to Orlando Brown, Elgton Jenkins is also a FA, don't know if Green Bay can afford him with Karen's salary.

I don't think they will let Jenkins go anywhere.

The Packers are sitting on a little over 3 million in cap space for next year so best of luck with that

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/green-bay-packers

Here we go again with the cap. There will inevitably be some departures (Amos and/or Preston Smith are likely gone) but Jenkins will be back. Your guy Rashan Gary will be up for an extension as well.

Amos nets you 5 million in cap savings. It's cute how you guys pretend the cap isn't real, like last year, and then poof! Devante Adams was gone.

They had the cap space to sign Devante, he chose to go to the Raiders. The Packers actually offered him more money if I remember that correctly.

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:41 pm

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Hawg Ass wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

In addition to Orlando Brown, Elgton Jenkins is also a FA, don't know if Green Bay can afford him with Karen's salary.

I don't think they will let Jenkins go anywhere.

The Packers are sitting on a little over 3 million in cap space for next year so best of luck with that

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/green-bay-packers

Here we go again with the cap. There will inevitably be some departures (Amos and/or Preston Smith are likely gone) but Jenkins will be back. Your guy Rashan Gary will be up for an extension as well.

Amos nets you 5 million in cap savings. It's cute how you guys pretend the cap isn't real, like last year, and then poof! Devante Adams was gone.

They had the cap space to sign Devante, he chose to go to the Raiders. The Packers actually offered him more money if I remember that correctly.

Because Rodgers likely told him he was only going to be around for 2 years. IIRC, Rodgers said he had an honest conversation with him about how long he had planned on playing.

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:52 pm

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I don't recall that and it wasn't anything I remembered Devante saying but there a lot of stories out there

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:54 pm

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Again if the salary cap was fake, like Zippy continues to proclaim, Za'Darius Smith would still be a Packer.

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Hawg Ass

Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:56 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

Again if the salary cap was fake, like Zippy continues to proclaim, Za'Darius Smith would still be a Packer.

I don't think so, something happened between the Packers and him and it was over.

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:57 pm

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Hawg Ass wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Again if the salary cap was fake, like Zippy continues to proclaim, Za'Darius Smith would still be a Packer.

I don't think so, something happened between the Packers and him and it was over.

His cap number was going to be 26 million, that's what happened.

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Hawg Ass

Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:59 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Again if the salary cap was fake, like Zippy continues to proclaim, Za'Darius Smith would still be a Packer.

I don't think so, something happened between the Packers and him and it was over.

His cap number was going to be 26 million, that's what happened.

They could have fixed that, it was something that he claimed he was injured and they didn't quite see it that way and thought he was sitting out for a new contract. They were ready to play Gary and the other Smith was cheaper.

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:01 pm

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Fixing it..moving numbers around, deferring bonuses etc only works for a little while. The Bears did the same thing with Mack and then last year his salary was absurd.

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:04 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

Fixing it..moving numbers around, deferring bonuses etc only works for a little while. The Bears did the same thing with Mack and then last year his salary was absurd.

It is why drafting players like Gary is so important, get the best out of them and let someone else pay. Rodgers is the only contract that will affect them long term and yes that can definitely be an issue potentially.

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:17 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Again if the salary cap was fake, like Zippy continues to proclaim, Za'Darius Smith would still be a Packer.

I don't think so, something happened between the Packers and him and it was over.

His cap number was going to be 26 million, that's what happened.

Why are we debating with Packer fans. It's like trying to explain to them that a "Rally for Love" is not a family reunion.

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:18 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

Fixing it..moving numbers around, deferring bonuses etc only works for a little while. The Bears did the same thing with Mack and then last year his salary was absurd.

the entire packer house of cards falls without a HOF QB.

Some of you are too young to remember the Forrest Gregg days

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:26 pm

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Juiced wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Again if the salary cap was fake, like Zippy continues to proclaim, Za'Darius Smith would still be a Packer.

I don't think so, something happened between the Packers and him and it was over.

His cap number was going to be 26 million, that's what happened.

Why are we debating with Packer fans. It's like trying to explain to them that a "Rally for Love" is not a family reunion.

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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:42 pm

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Nas wrote:

Juiced wrote:

Why are we debating with Packer fans. It's like trying to explain to them that a "Rally for Love" is not a family reunion.

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:57 pm

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Juiced wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Again if the salary cap was fake, like Zippy continues to proclaim, Za'Darius Smith would still be a Packer.

I don't think so, something happened between the Packers and him and it was over.

His cap number was going to be 26 million, that's what happened.

Why are we debating with Packer fans. It's like trying to explain to them that a "Rally for Love" is not a family reunion.

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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:40 pm

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He did it again!

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:40 pm

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Monty should be next.

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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:41 pm

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Herbert better be ready to be the bell cow if Monty goes cause that Ebner dude can't fucking play, at all.

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:44 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

Herbert better be ready to be the bell cow if Monty goes cause that Ebner dude can't fucking play, at all.

Yeah, I'm not sure Herbert is a 25+ touches a game guy. I think 20 is his limit to be consistently effective. Ebner can get you 5 to 6.

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:45 pm

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Poles will have a ton of cap room and this to work with;

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Get after it!

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:45 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

Herbert better be ready to be the bell cow if Monty goes cause that Ebner dude can't fucking play, at all.

Velus Jones is a RB now

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Caller Bob wrote:

Herbert better be ready to be the bell cow if Monty goes cause that Ebner dude can't fucking play, at all.

Leave Ebner on special teams and Velus on offense.

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Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 3:03 pm

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really need to get Jaylon Johnson locked up long term

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