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I've seen a lot of improvement this past month. He looks poised, and he's dramatically improved as a runner. If he can make some gains with his accuracy, we have our guy. Kudos to Getsy for bringing him along.

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I've seen a lot of improvement this past month. He looks poised, and he's dramatically improved as a runner. If he can make some gains with his accuracy, we have our guy. Kudos to Getsy for bringing him along.

Last two weeks he’s looked like a competent NFL QB. Embracing the run has been huge.

He’s borderline elite at running the ball right now.

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I've seen a lot of improvement this past month. He looks poised, and he's dramatically improved as a runner. If he can make some gains with his accuracy, we have our guy. Kudos to Getsy for bringing him along.

Last two weeks he’s looked like a competent NFL QB. Embracing the run has been huge.

He’s borderline elite at running the ball right now.


Agreed. Being an average passer would be HUGE.

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Jones held up against Parsons, and Brisker leads the team in sacks.

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Brisker, good tackler and good on the blitz but he was brutal in coverage yesterday.


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Brisker, good tackler and good on the blitz but he was brutal in coverage yesterday.


He was. It was overshadowed by Vildor's incompetence.

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If a team today offered you:
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Do you take it? That's basically the Cutler trade the Bears made.

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Do you take it? That's basically the Cutler trade the Bears made.


Cutler threw for over 4500 yards for Denver the year before he got to the Bears. Fields is on pace for less than half that much for 2022 with an extra game in this season.

I think you take that trade and run.

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Augie wrote:
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If a team today offered you:
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Do you take it? That's basically the Cutler trade the Bears made.


Cutler threw for over 4500 yards for Denver the year before he got to the Bears. Fields is on pace for less than half that much for 2022 with an extra game in this season.

I think you take that trade and run.
By the same logic, you would rather have Jay Cutler over Lamar Jackson.

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Nas wrote:
I've seen a lot of improvement this past month. He looks poised, and he's dramatically improved as a runner. If he can make some gains with his accuracy, we have our guy. Kudos to Getsy for bringing him along.


He looks so much better in his escapability,

they now design plays where he has to beat a rusher and he does

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Brick wrote:
Augie wrote:
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If a team today offered you:
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Do you take it? That's basically the Cutler trade the Bears made.


Cutler threw for over 4500 yards for Denver the year before he got to the Bears. Fields is on pace for less than half that much for 2022 with an extra game in this season.

I think you take that trade and run.
By the same logic, you would rather have Jay Cutler over Lamar Jackson.


Would the Ravens trade Lamar for two number 1s and a number 3 like the Broncos did with Cutler?

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Augie wrote:
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If a team today offered you:
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Do you take it? That's basically the Cutler trade the Bears made.


Cutler threw for over 4500 yards for Denver the year before he got to the Bears. Fields is on pace for less than half that much for 2022 with an extra game in this season.

I think you take that trade and run.
By the same logic, you would rather have Jay Cutler over Lamar Jackson.


Would the Ravens trade Lamar for two number 1s and a number 3 like the Broncos did with Cutler?

I doubt it.

The point is that Fields will never be judged on passing yards unless he stops running the ball.

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Nas wrote:
I've seen a lot of improvement this past month. He looks poised, and he's dramatically improved as a runner. If he can make some gains with his accuracy, we have our guy. Kudos to Getsy for bringing him along.


He looks so much better in his escapability,

they now design plays where he has to beat a rusher and he does

So its horrible that poor Justin Fields is taking so much punishment in the passing game because they cant protect him but designed runs where hes 100% guranteed to get hit are ok and we need more of that ?

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badrogue17 wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Nas wrote:
I've seen a lot of improvement this past month. He looks poised, and he's dramatically improved as a runner. If he can make some gains with his accuracy, we have our guy. Kudos to Getsy for bringing him along.


He looks so much better in his escapability,

they now design plays where he has to beat a rusher and he does

So its horrible that poor Justin Fields is taking so much punishment in the passing game because they cant protect him but designed runs where hes 100% guranteed to get hit are ok and we need more of that ?

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Most designed runs lead to him running out of bounds or sliding. But yes he can get hit.

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Brick wrote:
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Yes.

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good dolphin wrote:
Nas wrote:
I've seen a lot of improvement this past month. He looks poised, and he's dramatically improved as a runner. If he can make some gains with his accuracy, we have our guy. Kudos to Getsy for bringing him along.


He looks so much better in his escapability,

they now design plays where he has to beat a rusher and he does


Even on the run options, he's making the right read most of the time. For a while, he sucked at reading the end. The game has slowed down for him.

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Nas wrote:
I've seen a lot of improvement this past month. He looks poised, and he's dramatically improved as a runner. If he can make some gains with his accuracy, we have our guy. Kudos to Getsy for bringing him along.


He looks so much better in his escapability,

they now design plays where he has to beat a rusher and he does

So its horrible that poor Justin Fields is taking so much punishment in the passing game because they cant protect him but designed runs where hes 100% guranteed to get hit are ok and we need more of that ?

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Most designed runs lead to him running out of bounds or sliding. But yes he can get hit.

doesn’t really seem that he’s doing a lot of that he does it ?

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Jones held up against Parsons, and Brisker leads the team in sacks.
Jones is improving every week. He is miles better now than he was the first two games of the season. Kudos to him and the coaching staff for getting the most out of him.

Brisker and Gordon also continue to improve. Its very clear they have talent. They are still getting confused by motions and crossing routes and things like that, but its to be expected of rookies. To your point later, Vildor adds nothing to the team and IMO makes the defense worse when he is out there.

All three of these guys seem like they can be viable starters for the next few years. I'm pleased to see the improvement from all.

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badrogue17 wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Nas wrote:
I've seen a lot of improvement this past month. He looks poised, and he's dramatically improved as a runner. If he can make some gains with his accuracy, we have our guy. Kudos to Getsy for bringing him along.


He looks so much better in his escapability,

they now design plays where he has to beat a rusher and he does

So its horrible that poor Justin Fields is taking so much punishment in the passing game because they cant protect him but designed runs where hes 100% guranteed to get hit are ok and we need more of that ?


He often throws after beating a back side rusher.

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he only hits guys that are wide open or deep bombs. ive seen nothing to show me he can fit passes in tight coverage.

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Bernstein just said Fields is the best runner on the team. Fields can't deliver or take a hit like Herbert or Montgomery. He's a great runner when he catches defenses off guard. With his frame & straight up running syle he wouldn't last long as a RB. Larry Holmes seemed to huh? under his breath to the comment.


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he only hits guys that are wide open or deep bombs. ive seen nothing to show me he can fit passes in tight coverage.

He’s worked in that little side arm short yardage pass several times these past two weeks.

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he only hits guys that are wide open or deep bombs. ive seen nothing to show me he can fit passes in tight coverage.

He’s worked in that little side arm short yardage pass several times these past two weeks.


He's been fairly accurate with that arm angle.

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good dolphin wrote:
Nas wrote:
I've seen a lot of improvement this past month. He looks poised, and he's dramatically improved as a runner. If he can make some gains with his accuracy, we have our guy. Kudos to Getsy for bringing him along.


He looks so much better in his escapability,

they now design plays where he has to beat a rusher and he does


He also is making good decisions when he is running. He's looking down field for open receivers when he scrambles and has the talent to adjust his arm angles to deliver the ball to receivers.

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Nas wrote:
I've seen a lot of improvement this past month. He looks poised, and he's dramatically improved as a runner. If he can make some gains with his accuracy, we have our guy. Kudos to Getsy for bringing him along.


He looks so much better in his escapability,

they now design plays where he has to beat a rusher and he does

So its horrible that poor Justin Fields is taking so much punishment in the passing game because they cant protect him but designed runs where hes 100% guranteed to get hit are ok and we need more of that ?



Actually, I don't think he is getting hit a lot on his designed runs. He has good vision and will go into a quick slide before he can get hit. Where you worry about him is when he is in the pocket and he has the huge linemen and blitzing LBs to worry about who can hit him from the blind side.

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Jones held up against Parsons, and Brisker leads the team in sacks.
Jones is improving every week. He is miles better now than he was the first two games of the season. Kudos to him and the coaching staff for getting the most out of him.

Brisker and Gordon also continue to improve. Its very clear they have talent. They are still getting confused by motions and crossing routes and things like that, but its to be expected of rookies. To your point later, Vildor adds nothing to the team and IMO makes the defense worse when he is out there.

All three of these guys seem like they can be viable starters for the next few years. I'm pleased to see the improvement from all.


I wouldn't be surprised if Brisker and Gordon aren't being coached up a bit by Jackson, particularly Brister who really lays the wood on receivers and backs ala Jackson. He and Gordon also are very good at reading the QB jumping routes.

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Interested in forming a framework for grading Fields in this new-look offense.

Here are some assumptions:

1) Since Fields is being used as a runner now, passing yard expectations have to be reduced. As we know, if you gain 30 yards on designed runs during a drive, that's 30 less possible passing yards you can accumulate.

2) Scrambles should be scrutinized heavily - is he running because the pocket broke down or because he held on longer than necessary? Points given for making something happen when the protection failed; points taken away for scrambling because of misreads, even if he made something happen.

3) Since defenses have to respect the designed run this should open up windows for Fields to throw - he has to hit those throws. Points given for high yardage pass completions/attempts; no points taken away for drops.

All in all, if they continue to run the offense this way, anything above 250 passing yards seems unlikely given the designed runs. Maybe it's best to say something like 175-225 yards passing and 75+ yards running is the baseline expectation, with weights applied on third down conversion throws/runs as well as red zone TDs. Thoughts?

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275-280 yards in total from Fields, more TDs than INTs has to be considered a success generally I would say. At this point I don't care if its on the ground or thru the air. The overall production is what matters.

You can always break it down further (Red Zone, garbage time stats/scores, scrambling because of protection breadown vs holding the ball etc), but if we get that out of Fields week in and week out, for the most part, people are going to have fewer big reasons to complain.

He's made better decisions the last two games, both on the road. He didn't fumble yesterday. These are steps in the right direction. Not giant leaps forward but slow and steady can win the race going into next year.

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